pvp

Phoebes

Will there be any kind of pvp in this game like battlegrounds or a few pvp zones?

Sid_Vicious

no dont think so

Dullahan

There will be pvp servers, just as there was in EQ and Vanguard.

Which rulesets and how many is up in the air at this point, but its likely there will be a FFA (with level ranges) and factions server.

Kilsin

It will also depend on the amount of interest shown, if we get enough people that want PvP we will add separate servers for them and throw in some different rulesets and give those servers a bit of love to make them fun but it will essentially be the PvE game with a PvP toggle on separate servers, PvE and PvP won't affect each other that way

wormed

I'd definitely enjoy a factions server.

Sid_Vicious

Dullahan said:

There will be pvp servers, just as there was in EQ and Vanguard.

Which rulesets and how many is up in the air at this point, but its likely there will be a FFA (with level ranges) and factions server.

Awesome!! I just hope that things do not stay broken like they did in Vanguard.. things like certain skills one-shotting people. They finally made it so that you couldn't one-shot someone and it would cap at 10% or something which ended up making my 8th level cleric twink wayyy more powerful even level 50 had a hard time killing this little guy lmao but yeah the PVP servers were for the most part completely ignored.. every 6-9 months there would be a quick bandaid fix but that was all. I really hope they make their crafting a game within a game and not just 'gather this and click this then ding'.

Sid_Vicious

also.. I hope they have an option to stop leveling.. vanguard had a buff for this.. really helps for creating twinks

goboygo

All in on the faction PVP server if they have one.

SavageHorizon

Long as they make PVE the main aim of the game, all this talk of PVP not effecting PVE well that's bullshit because it did with Vanguard. In the end they shut the PVP servers down.

Isn't there enough PVP mmo out there already ffs,  keep it PVE.

Dullahan

Ya Vanguard should have put some of the PvP reductions in place that EQ had. They were so busy trying to get the game working, even talking about something like that would have been laughable at the time.

Sid_Vicious

pleeease oh please have there be a FFA PVP server.. but they need something to work for PVP wise, like really hard to get title or infamy or something, just something for bragging rights.

Tiller

Sid_Vicious said:

pleeease oh please have there be a FFA PVP server.. but they need something to work for PVP wise, like really hard to get title or infamy or something, just something for bragging rights.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/917  try that game

Phoebes

That's too bad

Would have been nice to get a zone or 2 for pvp for those that like consensual pvp, rather than just having to have it either always on or always off.

Dullahan

Phoebes said:

That's too bad

Would have been nice to get a zone or 2 for pvp for those that like consensual pvp, rather than just having to have it either always on or always off.

There's nothing to say they won't have an arena in cities or a zone like The Arena in EQ. I doubt its high priority right now though.

Kayo83

Speaking of PvP, any word on factions? Havent read anything yet. How many? Is it just FFA? They have all the race concepts down so they should know by now. Seems theyre setting up for the cliche 2 factions judging from the choice of races. Ugly/Demonic Evil (Skar, Ogre, Dark Mir, Gnomes) vs Pretty/Fantasy Good (Humans, Elves, Halflings, Dwarves).

Dullahan

No word at all on that sort of thing. It will all probably be determined by lore.

I could see a skar, ogre, dark mir on the evil side vs gnomes, dwarves and archai as neutral and human, elves and halflings as good.

Info on this sort of thing is still probably a long ways out. How much attention they give to it and how many servers may exist at launch will be dependent on the interest shown closer to launch. I can see only 1 or 2 servers at launch turning into many more, as PvP is way waay more popular now than it was back when EQ first arrived.

Kayo83

Dullahan said:

I could see a skar, ogre, dark mir on the evil side vs gnomes, dwarves and archai as neutral and human, elves and halflings as good.

That would be interesting. Usually 3 factions would "split the playerbase" but since this game will be even less PvP focused than usual it shouldnt have too much of an impact.

Hell, they could leave it open and up to the player. No wars, everyone starts off neutral with, or only some allied races would start friendly with each other but attacking players/npcs of a certain race too much and you become a KoS (red) enemy, missing out on any content that came with it. In fact id prefer that... more sandbox-y and closer to how EQ had it (afaik).

Dullahan

Kayo83 said:

Dullahan said:

I could see a skar, ogre, dark mir on the evil side vs gnomes, dwarves and archai as neutral and human, elves and halflings as good.

That would be interesting. Usually 3 factions would "split the playerbase" but since this game will be even less PvP focused than usual it shouldnt have too much of an impact.

Hell, they could leave it open and up to the player. No wars, everyone starts off neutral with, or only some allied races would start friendly with each other but attacking players/npcs of a certain race too much and you become a KoS (red) enemy, missing out on any content that came with it. In fact id prefer that... more sandbox-y and closer to how EQ had it (afaik).

Ya EQ had several variations. Rallos had FFA and totally player-made alliances. Vallon and Tallon had variations of race wars and Sullon had deity wars.

I like the idea of starting neutral and being able to choose what alliance you join in game without race and deity being the deciding factors. That way all factions will have a healthy balance of all the classes and it won't turn out like Vallon/Tallon/Sullon where they lacked key race/class combinations.

I also don't mind the idea of starting on one side to follow game lore, but then being able to defect and switch. Unlike EQ2 tho, I think switching should take an absolute TON of work and the choice should not be made lightly. I also think it should get harder every time you switch or perhaps a cooldown.

MrMelGibson

Dullahan said:

Kayo83 said:

Dullahan said:

I could see a skar, ogre, dark mir on the evil side vs gnomes, dwarves and archai as neutral and human, elves and halflings as good.

That would be interesting. Usually 3 factions would "split the playerbase" but since this game will be even less PvP focused than usual it shouldnt have too much of an impact.

Hell, they could leave it open and up to the player. No wars, everyone starts off neutral with, or only some allied races would start friendly with each other but attacking players/npcs of a certain race too much and you become a KoS (red) enemy, missing out on any content that came with it. In fact id prefer that... more sandbox-y and closer to how EQ had it (afaik).

Ya EQ had several variations. Rallos had FFA and totally player-made alliances. Vallon and Tallon had variations of race wars and Sullon had deity wars.

I like the idea of starting neutral and being able to choose what alliance you join in game without race and deity being the deciding factors. That way all factions will have a healthy balance of all the classes and it won't turn out like Vallon/Tallon/Sullon where they lacked key race/class combinations.

I also don't mind the idea of starting on one side to follow game lore, but then being able to defect and switch. Unlike EQ2 tho, I think switching should take an absolute TON of work and the choice should not be made lightly. I also think it should get harder every time you switch or perhaps a cooldown.

Here we can agree.  I always wanted more mmos to have this option.  For example, would be fun to be able to take my Jedi and switch to the empire (SWTOR).  I also agree this shouldn't be a trivial matter.  Otherwise you would have people switching constantly to get into the "better" or more full faction.  After all, the best things in life take hard work.