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Who played UO in the old glory days, pre-carebear? anyone left?:P
Ferox(SM)
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I wanted to take a roll call of any old Uo vets like myself on the forums, and perhaps talk about the glory days of the best mmorpg ever made so far.
I was working at electronics botique the day it came out(yeah im old!), I actually opened the shipment box and took the very first copy for myself haha, I couldnt wait to get home that night and play. I played mostly on atlantic, but did a short stint on catskills.
I have fond memories of running into the shadowclan ork roleplayers, who swarmed the land killing everything and everyone. The drow who hid among the trees in the woods south of Yew and demanded you pay a toll for going through their woods or else they killed you.
Another great memory is learning how to NOT take the roads and avoid all the people out there who would attack you on site, never since in a mmo have I experienced such a rush and tense excitment when I was traveling.
My fondest memory however is of my first small thatch house on Yew bay. I had it right on the water and my first boat was anchored right at the shoreline. My friends and i would hang out, play chess, spar to work on our weapon skills, cut down trees and make bows,arrows, and furniture. Every once in a while a group of pkers would come by and there would be a nice fight or two. When we felt like it we would jump in our ship and go out to fight sea serpants and water elementals, or we traveled to the dungeon se of yew, but that was a rare occurance, because I was sick of dungeons even back then.
No other mmorpg since then has come close, im still waiting for that next "UO", im thinking Darkfall and Roma Victor will take up the torch and give us another virtual society that has not been seen since UO.
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"Old UO is now but a dream that will live in the hearts of the faithful for eternity."
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I have to admit. I am, in every sense of the term, a carebear player. Every MMO I've played since UO has been on a carebear server. Though I am not sure why. I am not a pker, but like you I also played UO from the very begining. I always thought one of the funnest things in that game was wondering who might come around the corner next. I loved that feeling of intensity knowing that a group of mages could be up the road, waiting to kill anything that moves. Sure, it's always annoying being that one who gets ganked, but for some reason the intensity was well worth that price for me. And every once and a while you might win.
I also enjoyed how you never knew exactly what you were going up against as well. My main was a master swordsman who also mined. I so enjoyed just putting on a gray robe (with some armor underneath) just hacking away for some ore. Every once and a while someone would come along and take me to be an easy target for ingots. It was always fun watching them run away after going down to half their health in a few swings. Mind you, that didn't always happen. Sometimes a group of mages would come and lay down some smack. But it was still all in fun. I do miss those days.
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haha, a very good trick. That is what was so great about UO, people came up with all sorts of tricks and ideas to get by. I remember the one time I actually lead a rp-pk guild in UO we use to hide in a square on the road to brit. Someone would be running on the road like a n00b and would push past the first row but would be stuck in the middle and couldnt move. We then would come out of hiding and i had a macro that was something like " Your money or your life friend, either will do". Most people just fought or tried to run and died, but the few that did give me money I let go, we were rp-pk after all.
since then I lead guilds that are more neutral to things... being goodie two shoes is boreing and so over done, being evil is ok but also over done.. being neutral is always interesting because its tough and who knows what can happen.
I understand what you mean by how you say " im a carebear player" now. One of my best guild friends who was a famous Uo pker back in the day played DAOC for years and now plays WOW. I mock him so bad for it and he says he hasnt lost his pker roots!. A lot of hardcore people who are waiting for games like Darkfall and Roma Victor just need to play something, I guess because I am older and have jobs, wife, house, and bills to pay that I have the patience to wait.
last game I bought was daoc, played it for 3 months... before that was AC, played for 5 months... so not sine old UO narly 10 years ago, have I had a mmo to constantly play. I have beta tested every mmo there is basically, but I refuse to pay to play 99% of em because I came to the realization that none are close to Uo in every aspect, and forcing you to level and camp and upgrade your "uber armor" every few levels feels more like work then fun. When i was beta testing EQ I was looking for that check in the mail from SOE haha..
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"Old UO is now but a dream that will live in the hearts of the faithful for eternity."
Think you have what it takes to take the 'Oath of the legion' and become a true soldier of Rome?
Service guarantees citizenship!
I myself had played UO from the start during beta. I only played on the Atlantic server. My character was named Bran and I was in the guild "Covetous Crew", the infamous pk guild. There was constant battles that I can remember between us, The Regulators, The MERCS and The Pluggers. It was a nonstop war and it was (to this DAY!) the most fun I've ever had in a MMORPG. I still can't think of any game right now that has beaten the OLD style UO. I also remember me and Limp walking around 3rd level covetous with nothing but halberds just reaking havoc on ANYONE that came there. We stayed there for about 2 days straight and killed anything and everyone. Those were the good ol days. Many people remember CC the jerk pk guild.
If I had to do it again and play UO (if was back to the old style with the old people), I'd do it all over again where regeants meant something and having a house was awesome.
Ah the good ol days.
You bet your ass I remeber the boys of CC and the others you mentioned. Infact If I remember it was the CC boys I fought against in shadowbane beta too when they had their guild that took over the world haha. It's great to see that there ARE old UO vets around this place, even if we are few and far between. If UO went back to how it was day one I would pay to play it in a heartbeat. Ive tried soooo many free Uo shards that claim " like old uo!" but they really are not.
Old Uo is now but a dream that will live in the hearts of the faithful for eternity.
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"Old UO is now but a dream that will live in the hearts of the faithful for eternity."
Think you have what it takes to take the 'Oath of the legion' and become a true soldier of Rome?
Service guarantees citizenship!
CC are still around. Although I am not in the guild anymore because I have a 15 month old daughter now and don't have as much time to dedicate to the gaming community and the guild. Alot of old members have left the guild, but some are still there like: Lan, Seo, A-Fighter, Juggernaught, Yellowbeard. They have a few new members as well. They are mostly playing WOW right now at level 60 PVP'ing as usual. Can't remember the server they are on but if you wanted to drop in and say hey to them their on the IRC server: irc.shadowfire.org and their channel is of course: covetouscrew
Regulators have broken up, MERCS have broken up but some old members are still there, and I haven't heard from the Pluggers but I'm sure they are still around. I believe all the old school UO players are all playing WOW until something better comes out.
I personally am waiting for games like Roma Victor (looks great), Dungeons and Dragons Online, Lord of the Rings Online, and Vanguard. But we'll see. I'm mostly interested in Roma Victor just from all the features they are implementing. Looks to have great gameplay, dunno about the graphics however.
Nowadays it's hard to find a game to dedicate on. I was thinking of maybe trying Lineage II but I don't want to get started in a game and grind levels out if something better is coming soon. I've played WOW to about level 30 but ended up quitting cause I got a little bored. I played Guild Wars but didn't like it much because I didn't feel it was a real MMORPG. Sure the pvp is great, but I wanted to do a little more besides just hack n slash. Believe it or not, I love having a great community, a great economy, questing, and having a slew of crafting possiblities and professions. Sure I still love PK'ing someone or having PVP battles but nowadays games are more interesting and fun for me atleast having a solid community and economy, etc.
I have but I don't harp on the past.....it leaves you tainted.
"Small minds talk about people, average minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas."
I'm not THAT old...I bought UO when T2A came out and plaid all the way to release of AoS.
Never left fel
the only thing i found close to the old days are the free shards that try to recreate the past of UO. I personly never played those days but i hear there were some of the best years for pvp pk and just the MMO genre all together, lets hope D&L or D&D online will be somewhat of the same thing
Archer/fencer/stealther for life!
Fear the insta hit of my power heavy X tank newb!
Nothing like stealthing after some dude into his house , kill him and loot the house
sunsword just had to come along and ruin everything.. Thanks for the neon sandies but i dont wanna "roxxor the age of shadows"
ahh the good ol days, exept i experienced them on a free shard lol. But still that game had the most freedom. It didn't feel like you had to go anywhere it was trully a gods game, then it got fucked over
I was a mage/fencer ingame on the shard i played on (forget the name)
there is a shard out there that replicates the t2a feel .. but since i cant tell you the name of it O.o
I've been playing UO since 1999, yeah a long time but not pre-Trammel. I'm gonna tell it how it is so you all listen up on this issue dealing with MMORPG's.
1. You pay for the retail box then you pay a monthly subscription fee.
2. In MMORPG's it takes your time to develop your character and acquire items.
3. In every MMORPG there will be griefers, hackers, exploiters to ruin your fun in the game, FACT.
How in the world is playing with morons that are just out to ruin your fun in a game any fun at all? On top of that YOU are paying for this. These people have no skill at all other than using their hacks and exploits against you. I knew several people back in those days and met people from the pre-Trammel days that used scripts to PvP or some other program, exploit or hack to cheat their opponents.
I love MMORPG's but whenever you involve thousands of other players you are gonna have a large number of tards to deal with. Personally I have to deal with tards everyday, whether in rush hour traffic to the users I have to support at my company.
The last place I want to deal with utter idiots is in a game I enjoy playing. In fact I don't even play MMORPG's anymore because I can't stand the sheer number of morons in these games. Seems like that population has increased thousand fold since the old UO days. I strictly only play the FPS online games where your skill behind the keyboard is all you have to survive.
In these games I have found that killing off people really relieves my tension and stress plus I'm pretty darn good at them. You people out here that think you're some kind of 133t tard in these MMORPG's come visit me in any of the Battlefield series but mainly Battlefield 2 and I guarentee I'll mop the floor with your guts.
You think you have skill then put it to the test and come play the games that men play. The FPS online games will test your skills to the limit. MMORPG's have nothing to do with your skill behind the keyboard, period, end of story and anyone who argues against that is a complete idiot. So why pay all this money to play in a wolrd of tards I ask you?
the ONLY uo script program out there that works for pvp and such was released in uo:r
Pre uo:r all we had was Ezmacros for fastwalk (removed the lagg you got on horses and such)
and gave you better macro tools then the UO client did but didnt ruin pvp for anyone
Nothing can or will replace that feeling for you. Innocence lost is forever displaced. You are better off not trying, but instead look toward new experiences.
I was a veteran player of the earliest days. I also remember the game with fond memories, roaming the countryside, slaying Orcs and Trolls and Ettins. I remember assaulting the Orc fortress near Cove, delving into Wrong and Covetous, and otherwise treading lighly in dangerous places. I remember with great affecting my first Grandmaster title, and the countless hours I'd slaved over ridiculous amounts of crafting goods. I remember the smithies at Britain north, and the thieves at the banks. I remember my first-ever "event" at the Britain cemetary, with an arch-Demon spewing forth and my own blows against him (even looted an item from his corpse). All good memories, indeed!
But I also remember the game with disgust. I recall my house near Wind being ransacked by a Great Lord...nothing I coud do since he was a GM Mage and I was barely an Adept fighter, and his reputation remained unsullied despite his pitifully disgusting action. I recall being ganked numerous times for no quality reason whatsoever. I recall gangs of murderers killing new players, teams of 4 on 1...no honor in the action, pure bullying. I remember the gross imbalance in the game's skills that heavily benefited the halberd-wielding tank mage against any other configuration conceivable. The game had gross, glaring faults.
Was it fun? Yes it was, and it still is. I spent a few months this year paying again, after the Samauri release. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it again succumed to a point-of-diminishing-returns grind-fest and I lost interest in spending hours to gain negligible improvement in my character.
Yea, You couldn't level in a dungeon for 5 minutes without a gang of griefers coming and attacking you 5 on 1. The game was a cowards paradise.
I played UO right around the time T2A came out through AoS. One of the most unique things about that game was the social interaction. With ONLY chat bubbles, and no other means of communication, except maybe ICQ(which was just utilized between game sessions), to speak to friends or guildmates you actually HAD to visit them at Taverns, or in their homes. In no other MMORPG have I sat in a friend's In-game home and spent hours just talking while playing Checkers or Chess.
This also opened up a new range of social events from player-weddings, to funerals for players who had died in RL, to plays like "The Wizard of Oz", "Alice Through the Looking Glass", and a "Christmas Carol". I played on Baja and there was a guild that owned a Tavern called The Golden Brew that was "blessed" by GMs. Which meant it was custom-made by devs to have furniture and a landscape no other player could have just because it was run so well and was so popular. This guild, The Golden Knights, had a group who would macro lines for an entire play and then put it on using props and costumes. I sat through the Wizard of Oz and it was unbelievably professional. I think the Guild Master actually directed a small production theatre in real life. At the end of the second Wizard of Oz show Lord British actually appeared on the roof of the tower where the play was being put on. For those who don't know, Lord British was a King NPC in the game but whenever he was controlled by a person, it was always Richard Garriot who was the creator of Ultima Online and the entire Ultima Series. Anyway, I was one of the 20 people that night, the first show had 40+ including all the major guildmasters, as well as counselors(Blue Robes), Gamemasters(Red Robes), and the Green Robed Guys that did Quests, who got to interact with him as he congratulated the Golden Knights on their performance and such.
Anyway, my point is that these social events were all made possible by UO's unique Game System. I know there have been wedding, funerals, and maybe even plays on other MMORPGS, but UO seemed to encourage them above all other games I have played. And not with Wedding Dresses and Wedding Cakes but with the attendance and help of GameMasters who could basically re-design the game around these events. With open PvP players learned to take care of other players. More interaction on every level.
you should come play what the real men play, games like Operation flashpoint, not quakey life bar jumping around n00b games like battlefield
. Sorry just giving you a taste of your own medicine hehe, but op flash is very realistic and not easy for bf type players.
as for UO I say if you cant take the heat get out of the kitchen, people dont NEED a reason to kill you, that is what freedom is all about. Of course I do believe there should be a system of law to some degree, but nothing hard coded into the game to carebearize it by developers. In UO the players were the police force, and that is how it should be. I cannot stand games that only allow you to pvp in some far off frontier or not on a n00b island or whatever, it makes the world seem so fake and contrived.
In the real world if someone is bullying you or threatening you or "ruining your lovely happy joy joy day" what are you gonna go complaining to the "mean people police"? take action and fight back! the core of the great fantasy story is the bully and the underdog, start one of your own. Deathwolf hit the nail right on the head though when he called it a "game". MMorpgs are far far more then a game, atleast ones like Uo anyways, They are virtual societies with their own codes and moral and culture. People who just see them as a "game" may not last long in something like this because usually games have an ending, where as mmorpgs, like real life, keep going until you die in reality.
the "real men" were learning to survive on the mean streets of UO long before all these n00bs loved to brag about their uber armor and how long it took them to wait in like to kill the uber ever-spawning monster so they can get the same uber rare item that everyone else and their mother has.
Laserwolf yeah there was one of those dev blessed taverns on Atlantic as well. In the waning years of my UO existance I joined a "guild" that was the whole political, military, and social society of the town of Yew, it was quite fun and often we would be raided by the shadowclan orks. I remember one battle where we defended the Yew justice complex.
We were all setup on the defensive ramparts, I was over the gate, and all of a sudden you see dozens upon dozens of orcs swarming towards the gate like a scene right out of the lord of the rings. We got our butts kicked that game but the next week we stormed and took it back. It was the sort of fun you dont see in any other mmorpg.
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"Old UO is now but a dream that will live in the hearts of the faithful for eternity."
Think you have what it takes to take the 'Oath of the legion' and become a true soldier of Rome?
Service guarantees citizenship!
I did. I played UO for 2 1/2 years on Napa Valley. I was a counselor for 2 of those years. When I left I sold my house, which may still be there, for $250. It was built before the guarded zone restrictions and was located just inside the mountain pass on the road that led to Yew. In Britannia of course.
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"Old UO is now but a dream that will live in the hearts of the faithful for eternity."
Think you have what it takes to take the 'Oath of the legion' and become a true soldier of Rome?
Service guarantees citizenship!
UO is a great mmorpg and I think any mmorpg will have a hard time competing to all its fun trade skills and fun pvp.
I played from the early days too.
I remember one trick a guy would do is when people asked for a port into unrest (I think that was the dungeon) he hated those people so he would port them right to the middle of these deadly mushrooms. If you stepped on one it would take you down to like 1hp and if you went 2 steps you were dead (before they nerfed the things, probably because of this guy lol). He would then recall in to a safe location right next and then rel por (teleport - wow I still remember the crazy language for the spells) to the safe spot and then promptly loot the n00b clean.
Ahh UO, good times. I have high hopes for Roma Victor taking the baton from UO and bringing us into some new glory days of intense RPG/PvP.
Well said my old Uo brother, RV and hopefully DF will give us those glory days again :P.
and I remember those tricks , it was so funny how nieve people were to fall for all these silly things.. those are the people that got mad and quit to play Everquest..hahaha.
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"Old UO is now but a dream that will live in the hearts of the faithful for eternity."
Think you have what it takes to take the 'Oath of the legion' and become a true soldier of Rome?
Service guarantees citizenship!