Exactly what I was thinking. Intro vids always look good but tell really little about a game.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
I played the old version it had potential but in the end it tanked. I used to love flying around with my pet dragon over the mountain tops landing in the middle of nowhere and feel how big the world was. Kinda miss it. Here is the old trailer
Glad they undated the game.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Well, it looks like they have done a great job so I'd be keen to try it.
@Sovrath over twenty thousand posts, they should just give you a job here...
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Is someone going to fall for this pile of manure, yet again?
Is this a new practice, not even putting there the effort to come up with a new game? No, now they put aside old shit games that proved to be garbage and bring them back when they think nobody remembers.
I remmeber. This was an insult to the word "entertainment".
It's an old, old game that's been given a new graphics engine.
They took the name and ideas and built a new game around it. I doubt that Snail's Dark and Light has anything to do with the old one.
But why keep the logo and title of the original D&L if the new version "has nothing to do with the original" ?
It's not like "Dark and Light" is a valuable IP that will pull in millions of players, lol. Probably the opposite , in fact...
Maybe that's just a chinese thing and the game will be marketed as Savage Horizon (the original working title) in the west. Who knows
Ever since Snail's founder saw the a demo of the original D&L at the 2004 E3, he was enthralled by its vision. Originally he wanted to be only the publisher in China but when the original French developers ran into technical and legal difficulties he offered to buy it up to continue its development.
After 2 unsuccessful attempts which never reached play-test status, the project was in hiatus until a new project lead was found and progress was made since last year. Note that the goals has been changed from 2011 - the current backstory is 3 faction groups of humanoid beings were displaced from their home world to the current D & L world.
Nobody making a superb triple A game,has 11+ years to make a game,so i call BS on the time spent.
So my educated guess is a few likely happenings.Started out with little money,got some funding but failed badly.Several years pass by then finds a new investor and tries to restart the project. If anyone truly believes this is the making of a great game,it would not have remained silent for 11 years,it would have been all over the advertising web. You simply only need pay attention to this site,we see everything including complete crap being advertised,nothing is a great secret anymore.Also we have NOT seen anyone do a genre justice,every single game coming the last 5-10 years has looked cheap...RUSHED and not very in depth,point being,do not get your hopes up for this magically appearing act.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Yeh same here. Well I did watch the video and the game looks good, but the fact that Snail is involved pretty much erased it from my radar.
I know Black Gold and some others have a negative rep but I think they have done a good job with Age of Wushu and I look forward to it's sequel. I for one am looking forward to seeing how this game turns out.
My issue with Snail is not the games nor the game mechanics they develop. I also thought AoW was an OK game but after giving it an honest run for a little over a month it became apparent to me that SnailUSA's ability to manage an MMO are amateur and their cash shop with rented items instead of permanent items is absurd. Heck even MMORPG.com's biggest AoW fan left that game due to how P2W it became.
Haha. It's baaack. I thought this game died for good. It was more famous for it's scandals and lawsuits than the actual game. I'd stay way clear of this game.
Switching to UE4 is how they expect people to forget when they were sued along with the games original devs by the owner of the Mafate engine, when the original devs sold the game to SnailGames after kicking the engines creator Pix from the team and never paying him. This game's fiasco was right up there with the Age of Mourning scam.
Big Z never forgets.
I forgot about Age of Mourning too. That was a huge disaster too. lol.
ahahaha I remember being on this forum when Dark and Light released in like 2004. For some reason there was so much hype even though it looked terrible, the game came out and then died within hours...
ahahaha I remember being on this forum when Dark and Light released in like 2004. For some reason there was so much hype even though it looked terrible, the game came out and then died within hours...
It had nothing to do with looks,it was watched by many for some of it's promises. Like soooo many games since then,we have been promised amazing things,only to see the same old game design time after time. Can ANYONE release us from the boring quest grinding,end game looting treadmills?Seriously,why does it matter what promises are made by devs if all they give us is the exact same game play?
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Nobody making a superb triple A game,has 11+ years to make a game,so i call BS on the time spent.
So my educated guess is a few likely happenings.Started out with little money,got some funding but failed badly.Several years pass by then finds a new investor and tries to restart the project. If anyone truly believes this is the making of a great game,it would not have remained silent for 11 years,it would have been all over the advertising web. You simply only need pay attention to this site,we see everything including complete crap being advertised,nothing is a great secret anymore.Also we have NOT seen anyone do a genre justice,every single game coming the last 5-10 years has looked cheap...RUSHED and not very in depth,point being,do not get your hopes up for this magically appearing act.
Your educated guess is wrong , Snail Games did not acquire the rights to D&L till 2011 , made decisions on direction of IP (changed Engine ) Did not start work till 2012 , The game you are looking at is a completly new game from the original iteration and shares only concept , The entire game was remade , so 4 years + is on average to do this ....
I was Settler in the original and the game had a lot of good ideas , Many implemented and working and enjoyed my time in game for 2 years , altho there were many technical struggles along the way , D&L had many great mechaics in game and was fun .. The community was very dissapointed watching everything fall apart thru the legal sturglles as the Team couldnt focus on fixing and improving the game at that time , which led to its ultimate demise and shutdown ...
If Snail games can deliver the orginal cocepts with out an intrusive Cash shop attached , there will be many pleasntly surpirsed players ..
So if you were paying attention to this site as you indicated or done 30 seconds of research , instead of you your normal bile spewing shtick that has bored so many for so long you would have stumbeld on this ....
worst idea for a mmo is to split his player base behind paywalls with dlc content b2p with paid expansion and cosmetic cash shop would be nice but we are talking about snail games and have bad experience with snail games and his p2w cash shop
Well if the game is going B2P with DLC support I may check it out. But I am still very cautious though. Snail has some of the worst support and cash shops known.
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"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Is this a new practice, not even putting there the effort to come up with a new game? No, now they put aside old shit games that proved to be garbage and bring them back when they think nobody remembers.
I remmeber. This was an insult to the word "entertainment".
better carry extra sheilds with you mages and scouts
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
After 2 unsuccessful attempts which never reached play-test status, the project was in hiatus until a new project lead was found and progress was made since last year. Note that the goals has been changed from 2011 - the current backstory is 3 faction groups of humanoid beings were displaced from their home world to the current D & L world.
The trailer claimed that the footage shown is recorded from the current development game world.
"A game is fun if it is learnable but not trivial" -- Togelius & Schmidhuber
So my educated guess is a few likely happenings.Started out with little money,got some funding but failed badly.Several years pass by then finds a new investor and tries to restart the project.
If anyone truly believes this is the making of a great game,it would not have remained silent for 11 years,it would have been all over the advertising web.
You simply only need pay attention to this site,we see everything including complete crap being advertised,nothing is a great secret anymore.Also we have NOT seen anyone do a genre justice,every single game coming the last 5-10 years has looked cheap...RUSHED and not very in depth,point being,do not get your hopes up for this magically appearing act.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
"If I offended you, you needed it" -Corey Taylor
Like soooo many games since then,we have been promised amazing things,only to see the same old game design time after time.
Can ANYONE release us from the boring quest grinding,end game looting treadmills?Seriously,why does it matter what promises are made by devs if all they give us is the exact same game play?
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I was Settler in the original and the game had a lot of good ideas , Many implemented and working and enjoyed my time in game for 2 years , altho there were many technical struggles along the way , D&L had many great mechaics in game and was fun .. The community was very dissapointed watching everything fall apart thru the legal sturglles as the Team couldnt focus on fixing and improving the game at that time , which led to its ultimate demise and shutdown ...
If Snail games can deliver the orginal cocepts with out an intrusive Cash shop attached , there will be many pleasntly surpirsed players ..
So if you were paying attention to this site as you indicated or done 30 seconds of research , instead of you your normal bile spewing shtick that has bored so many for so long you would have stumbeld on this ....
http://www.mmorpg.com/newsroom.cfm/read/20102/Development-Taken-Over-by-Snail-Games.html
Have a nice day
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George Washington
http://mmoculture.com/2016/07/snail-games-vp-chats-with-media-on-age-of-wushu-2-and-dark-and-light/
worst idea for a mmo is to split his player base behind paywalls with dlc content
b2p with paid expansion and cosmetic cash shop would be nice but we are talking about snail games
and have bad experience with snail games and his p2w cash shop
Cool thanks for the headsup.
- Albert Einstein
To live to see this piece of §$%§ being resurrected.....I would have never guessed. It looks like Hell has finally frozen over
OK since this is D&L I want the cloth map that was promised to me as a Settler. My Settler number is 2048.