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Needing help with a $1000-$1500 range gaming build

MrTugglesMrTuggles Member UncommonPosts: 189
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As per the title I am looking to build a new gaming rig between $1000-1500. Would need all components, and I believe I will also need to purchase a new version of windows. 

Would basically like to play most MMO's coming to market in the next 3-5 years on near-max - max settings with zero hitches. Any help would be much appreciated!

As always, thanks in advance!
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    All components, as in just the stuff inside the case, or all components, like monitor/keyboard/mouse as well?

    US? Or some other locale?
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,057
    edited September 2016
    You need more money if those are your goals.

    S1500 will build a decent rig for this year, but not 3 to 5 years down the road.

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  • MrTugglesMrTuggles Member UncommonPosts: 189
    edited September 2016
    I guess I should have rephrased, all components as in case + everything inside. My current computer will be converted to a home theater pc of sorts so I won't be parting it off to help with this build.

    USA located.


    To put things in context: My current rid is 3ish years old, and I have been able to play almost all MMO's on high settings with my 770gtx and 8 gigs of ram. I am assuming that a new build with a 1060 or 1070 gtx, higher ram, etc, etc, would be able to sufficiently meet my need for another 3-5 years. MMO's haven't really pushed the bar with graphics so far, and I don't much expect them to do so in the next few years. Needing to have higher spec'd computers to run them would put up more barriers to entry than most companies want to do.


    Edit: I do NOT play any kind of RPG, FPS, etc, etc, etc that push the barriers on graphics. Strictly MMO, and MOBA games.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    What CPU is in your current rig? CPUs haven't got all that much faster in the past 3ish years.
  • MrTugglesMrTuggles Member UncommonPosts: 189
    i5-4670k 3.4ghz
  • ZebbakeiZebbakei Member UncommonPosts: 39
    edited September 2016
    I would consider upgrading your current rig. Get a top end cpu cooler and OC the hell out of your i5, get a new gtx 1070 and PS if needed, and 16 gigs of ram(I'd get 32, i've found some games plus background stuff has capped out my 16 lately).

    Opps, just saw that you're turning yer old PC into a home theater, gotcha. 

    A don't think a home theater pc requires too much umph if you're just watching tv, movies etc. You could build a cheap system for it and pimp out your old rig, which except for not being an i7 isn't far behind the latest gen, cpu-wise.
  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657
    Zebbakei said:
    I would consider upgrading your current rig. Get a top end cpu cooler and OC the hell out of your i5, get a new gtx 1070 and PS if needed, and 16 gigs of ram(I'd get 32, i've found some games plus background stuff has capped out my 16 lately).
    MrTuggles said:
    I guess I should have rephrased, all components as in case + everything inside. My current computer will be converted to a home theater pc of sorts so I won't be parting it off to help with this build.

    He wants a new box because he has a use for his current one.
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  • ZebbakeiZebbakei Member UncommonPosts: 39
    edited September 2016
    Here's a sub 1500$ build from tom's hardware. Good specs.
    http://pcpartpicker.com/list/rFbtpb

    Here's a solid sub 1k build to give you an idea. 
    http://pcpartpicker.com/list/fssYHN
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    edited September 2016
    7Grunty said:
    Zebbakei said:
    I would consider upgrading your current rig. Get a top end cpu cooler and OC the hell out of your i5, get a new gtx 1070 and PS if needed, and 16 gigs of ram(I'd get 32, i've found some games plus background stuff has capped out my 16 lately).
    MrTuggles said:
    I guess I should have rephrased, all components as in case + everything inside. My current computer will be converted to a home theater pc of sorts so I won't be parting it off to help with this build.

    He wants a new box because he has a use for his current one.
    Well, the reason I asked - it may be better off to build a new HTPC - get a SFF mini ATX system, and then just pop a new video card in his current system. HTPCs rarely need a discrete card or a high-end CPU, you have options like Steam In-Home Streaming for playing games that need more horsepower than just watching movies and such, and you could build a pretty capable HTPC for under $500. Leaving $500-1000 for a video upgrade for the current computer, putting you firmly in 1070-1080 territory - maybe even TItan territory if you just wanted to get ridiculous.

    Maybe, maybe not, just thinking out loud.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    Ridelynn said:
    7Grunty said:
    Zebbakei said:
    I would consider upgrading your current rig. Get a top end cpu cooler and OC the hell out of your i5, get a new gtx 1070 and PS if needed, and 16 gigs of ram(I'd get 32, i've found some games plus background stuff has capped out my 16 lately).
    MrTuggles said:
    I guess I should have rephrased, all components as in case + everything inside. My current computer will be converted to a home theater pc of sorts so I won't be parting it off to help with this build.

    He wants a new box because he has a use for his current one.
    Well, the reason I asked - it may be better off to build a new HTPC - get a SFF mini ATX system, and then just pop a new video card in his current system. HTPCs rarely need a discrete card or a high-end CPU, you have options like Steam In-Home Streaming for playing games that need more horsepower than just watching movies and such, and you could build a pretty capable HTPC for under $500. Leaving $500-1000 for a video upgrade for the current computer, putting you firmly in 1070-1080 territory - maybe even TItan territory if you just wanted to get ridiculous.

    Maybe, maybe not, just thinking out loud.
    That's the route I'd go unless you want to burn money for the sake of burning it.  Even if you do need more CPU performance (which you probably don't), you can probably get a lot out of an overclock.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    MrTuggles said:
    As per the title I am looking to build a new gaming rig between $1000-1500. Would need all components, and I believe I will also need to purchase a new version of windows. 

    Would basically like to play most MMO's coming to market in the next 3-5 years on near-max - max settings with zero hitches. Any help would be much appreciated!

    As always, thanks in advance!
    All games on max settings with no hitching is not happening.  Never underestimate the ability of slow software to perform poorly on fast hardware.
  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    I agree with Ridelynn, no computer or combination of parts you get for that money will give you the performance you're asking for, and cpu wise no money whatsover will give the performance to last 3 years, nor any actual boost in performance right now.

    Building a HTPC miniATX system as the media PC, and getting another 8GB of ram and a new GPU for your current PC is the best course of action.


  • MrTugglesMrTuggles Member UncommonPosts: 189
    Alright, well this is my current set up: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RqNCd6

    From what I am gathering I would need to upgrade my motherboard to be ddr4 capable, my ram, and my video card?

    Taking into account this build is almost 4 years old now; should I replace the liquid cooler with a new one (not sure if the liquid would deteriorate over time).
  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    edited September 2016
    MrTuggles said:
    Alright, well this is my current set up: http://pcpartpicker.com/list/RqNCd6

    From what I am gathering I would need to upgrade my motherboard to be ddr4 capable, my ram, and my video card?

    Taking into account this build is almost 4 years old now; should I replace the liquid cooler with a new one (not sure if the liquid would deteriorate over time).
    Upgrade your GPU. I'd suggest getting GTX 1070. It's expensive, but if you're unhappy with how your GTX 770 performs now, you won't be happy with anything slower than GTX 1070 for very long, and it's better to make one expensive purchase than to keep constantly upgrading.

    Or if you want to save money, getting RX 480 is another alternative. It's nowhere as good as GTX 1070, but it's about 40% cheaper.

    Also SSD prices have dropped a lot. There are plenty of 480 GB SSDs available at around $120, and 1 terabyte SSDs at bit above $200. If you have money available, getting a large SSD would be a good quality of life upgrade.

    Other than that, don't upgrade anything. Your CPU, motherboard and RAM are still really good.
     
  • MrTugglesMrTuggles Member UncommonPosts: 189
    Well that is kind of disappointing. I got fairly excited about building another computer!

    If I am going on the cheap route then... I assume the 1060 would be a HUGE improvement over my current gtx 770? I mean, I am not really having any issues with what I play at the moment, but I know it is time to upgrade. Currently I can run 3-4 Eve Online clients with medium settings and no issues. Would the 1060 allow me to bump up the performance significantly, or would I need to go with the 1070 for that?
  • sacredfoolsacredfool Member UncommonPosts: 849
    Exactly what was said above. 

    Get an SSD and a GTX 1070. 

    Then just build some small PC to use as home theater. 

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  • VrikaVrika Member LegendaryPosts: 7,989
    MrTuggles said:
    Well that is kind of disappointing. I got fairly excited about building another computer!

    If I am going on the cheap route then... I assume the 1060 would be a HUGE improvement over my current gtx 770?
    GTX 1060 or RX 480 should be 50% faster than GTX 770.
     
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    MrTuggles said:
    Well that is kind of disappointing. I got fairly excited about building another computer!

    If I am going on the cheap route then... I assume the 1060 would be a HUGE improvement over my current gtx 770? I mean, I am not really having any issues with what I play at the moment, but I know it is time to upgrade. Currently I can run 3-4 Eve Online clients with medium settings and no issues. Would the 1060 allow me to bump up the performance significantly, or would I need to go with the 1070 for that?
    Don't do small upgrades.  I wouldn't go with a GTX 1060.  You really need at least a Fury card to justify doing an upgrade, and would be better off with a GTX 1070 or GTX 1080.  Depending on what you're willing to spend:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150742
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125869

    If it's a multi-boxing issue, then you'll probably want the extra memory capacity and not one of the Fury cards.

    Still, if you don't have any issues with your current setup, why not just keep it?  If your current setup does everything you want, the only possible changes from replacing parts are bad.  Once AMD Vega launches, you'll have more options and likely better prices.
  • MrTugglesMrTuggles Member UncommonPosts: 189
    I want to thank everyone for their help with this. It was very much appreciated!!
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,499
    For most people, 16 GB of memory is more than you need.  If you go heavy on multi-boxing, you could get into trouble.  But this is something that you can check directly:  open Task Manager while gaming and see how much you're using.  If you've got several GB free, you're fine.  If you're using nearly all of it, it's time to add more.

    I'd want more than 120 GB of SSD space, though you know how you use it better than I would.  If you're having to install real programs on the hard drive, a bigger SSD can eliminate that.
  • StoevixStoevix Member UncommonPosts: 37
    Kyleran said:
    You need more money if those are your goals.

    S1500 will build a decent rig for this year, but not 3 to 5 years down the road.
    The last PC I built costed me around $1500 if I remember correctly just for the tower. I ended at getting two HD5870's for $400 each which just came out when I build the PC. Then the another $700 dollars was for the rest of the stuff like motherboard, power supply and ect.

    That computer lasted me for 4 years easy which I was able to play at max settings. While I did use that computer for a total of 5 years. On the 5th year the PC started to show it's age due to the games that was released that year.


  • HatefullHatefull Member EpicPosts: 2,503
    MrTuggles said:
    As per the title I am looking to build a new gaming rig between $1000-1500. Would need all components, and I believe I will also need to purchase a new version of windows. 

    Would basically like to play most MMO's coming to market in the next 3-5 years on near-max - max settings with zero hitches. Any help would be much appreciated!

    As always, thanks in advance!
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  • time007time007 Member UncommonPosts: 1,062
    Get Pascal

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  • 13lake13lake Member UncommonPosts: 719
    Double check if you're running out of memory, and if so get another 2x8 GB of the same ram sticks.

    And get a Nvidia GTX 1070.

    That's pretty much the whole upgrade there. If you feel like you need more ssd space get another 240/250GB ssd for games.

    Everything else is fine. I also don't think the water cooler is gonna make any problems for at least another 3 years. But you've got enough of a budget to get a similarly price one as well.
  • MrTugglesMrTuggles Member UncommonPosts: 189
    edited September 2016
    Ended up going with the MSI GTX 1070 GamingZ, got another 8gig of ram (was running at 50% with no games going right now, but a lot of applications), and a 250gb samsung evo ssd.

    Grand total for the upgrade was $639.69.


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