Five Things We Want from Snail’s Dark & Light - The List

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Five Things We Want from Snail’s Dark & Light - The List

Dark and Light, once thought dead and buried is nearing ever closer to its eventual relaunch. It’s not the game it was 12 years ago, except in name only. Still, even with a few interviews, we don’t have much in the way of gameplay video or real details from the developer itself to go on. Ergo, today we’re offering up five things we want from Dark and Light. These are just five of our many hopes, so feel free to weigh in with your own.

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Nanfoodle

Anyone know if they will be doing twitch combat?

Harafnir

Aaaah, the wishes sound exactly like last time... The memories do come back. You have no details? Only a wishlist? Sound exactly, 100%, like last time.

Tekaelon

Honestly throw out a lot of the typical MMO mechanisms. I'm sick of loot grind and lame armor dress ups. So tired of online game blueprints that never deviants from a marketing research.

SavageHorizon

I really hope they stick to full PVP servers and total PVE servers, they have already said they want to keep both styles separate. After all why waste time on separate servers when you can just have PVP servers where you can just turn of PVP.

Many PVEers don't want any PVE on the PVE server, it's doesn't just end there it's all the nonsence in chat. Thing is the PVP server will let you PVE and PVP so why try to dictate the servers. It's a survival mmo that both PVEers can feel good playing and PVPers can enjoy there play.

As for the offline system, well they already have this in Age Of Wushu so that should not be problem. Also they can introduce the kidnapping system from Age Of Wushu onto the Dnl PVP servers.

Also remember that this game is not there flagship PVP game that will be Age Of Wushu 2 that comes out 2017. Total PVP game with full loot, contested content and many of the Age Of Wushu features improved all on one server. 

BillMurphy

Nanfoodle said:

Anyone know if they will be doing twitch combat?

See #3

Ozmodan

How could you miss the #1 need, a store that does not give huge advantages to the whales!!!!  It is snail games and they are known for that issue.

They could make a great game and this problem would basically make the game unplayable.

Sovrath

BillMurphy said:

Nanfoodle said:

Anyone know if they will be doing twitch combat?

See #3

I've seen 3rd person avatars so unless it suddenly moves you to 1st person I wouldn't worry about it.

Having said that, I"m "in" either way provided it is indeed a huge world with places to explore.

LrdEtrius

Really looking into 3rd person pov.

SavageHorizon

LrdEtrius said:

Really looking into 3rd person pov.

Well this was 2011 so as you can see the game has 3d person view. 

BillMurphy

SavageHorizon said:

LrdEtrius said:

Really looking into 3rd person pov.

Well this was 2011 so as you can see the game has 3d person view. 

In 2011. In the recent (as of 2016) Reddit interview, they said simply that they're looking into it. 2011 was before the move to Unreal 4.

SavageHorizon

BillMurphy said:

SavageHorizon said:

LrdEtrius said:

Really looking into 3rd person pov.

Well this was 2011 so as you can see the game has 3d person view. 

In 2011. In the recent (as of 2016) Reddit interview, they said simply that they're looking into it. 2011 was before the move to Unreal 4.

I would not bet against it, they updated the graphic engine but the concept is still the same. 

SlyLoK

I dont want any PvP on the PvE servers.

If combat is more of the action variety then I would like the pace to be about what ESO offers.

Possibly Kill on Sight from other faction NPCs / Guards ( unless you increase your standing with them )

Being able to improve your standing with humanoid mobs.

Crafted gear being better than dropped in all but the rarest of cases.

Theocritus

I have zero expectations on this one

SpottyGekko

DMKano said:

Just everyone keep in mind that this is a survival game first, mmo 2nd.

Ah, yes, a "survival game"...

It's almost become a modern euphemism for minimal content. I always thought the "FFA-PVP sandbox" was the cheapest MMO to make, but "survival games" trump even those, lol

SavageHorizon

SlyLoK said:

I dont want any PvP on the PvE servers.

If combat is more of the action variety then I would like the pace to be about what ESO offers.

Possibly Kill on Sight from other faction NPCs / Guards ( unless you increase your standing with them )

Being able to improve your standing with humanoid mobs.

Crafted gear being better than dropped in all but the rarest of cases.

That's how it should be on the PVE servers, I don't think we have anything to worry about. 

As for crafting, well they already have a robust crafting system they can work with from Age Of Wushu. 

Kyleran

SlyLoK said:

I dont want any PvP on the PvE servers.



If combat is more of the action variety then I would like the pace to be about what ESO offers.



Possibly Kill on Sight from other faction NPCs / Guards ( unless you increase your standing with them )



Being able to improve your standing with humanoid mobs.



Crafted gear being better than dropped in all but the rarest of cases.

No PVP on the PVE servers at all? No dueling, no arenas, no match play, none at all?

Sovrath

Kyleran said:

SlyLoK said:

I dont want any PvP on the PvE servers.



If combat is more of the action variety then I would like the pace to be about what ESO offers.



Possibly Kill on Sight from other faction NPCs / Guards ( unless you increase your standing with them )



Being able to improve your standing with humanoid mobs.



Crafted gear being better than dropped in all but the rarest of cases.

No PVP on the PVE servers at all? No dueling, no arenas, no match play, none at all?

I would like pvp on the pve servers. The dueling, the arenas the match play, etc.

Since I already play a pvp oriented game (Black Desert) I think I'll join the pve servesr but I'll still want some player vs player combat when I get the itch.

Nemesis7884

Im calling this already a failure due to lack of proof otherwise....aka no gameplay video 1-2 onths before release shows the amount of conviction....hype to cash in on boxes cause they know they got nothing

Kyleran

Sovrath said:

Kyleran said:

SlyLoK said:

I dont want any PvP on the PvE servers.



If combat is more of the action variety then I would like the pace to be about what ESO offers.



Possibly Kill on Sight from other faction NPCs / Guards ( unless you increase your standing with them )



Being able to improve your standing with humanoid mobs.



Crafted gear being better than dropped in all but the rarest of cases.

No PVP on the PVE servers at all? No dueling, no arenas, no match play, none at all?

I would like pvp on the pve servers. The dueling, the arenas the match play, etc.

Since I already play a pvp oriented game (Black Desert) I think I'll join the pve servesr but I'll still want some player vs player combat when I get the itch.

Yeah, that's what I meant, some sort of PVP options for when a player wishes to join in, could even be a separate island or region, as long as they don't lock any content that attempts to force people to participate.

MikePaladin

1.Ark Survival like world beautiful and rich forests with rich fauna . Survival Concept and Crafting concept 2.RPG Aspect 3.Deep customization 3.Deep crafting 4.Caravans and other big events or something similar 5.Fraction Wars Main PVP aspect 6.Open world PVP but punishment should extreme punishing so that before you attack you should consider you actions 10 times. Reason why well look at Ark Survival 5 People can have 1700 hours in that game each 1700 hours but their base can be wiped in few hours during night raid which happens in 90 % of times .. Random PVP is unhealthy for mmoRPGS because we have few groups of people Role Players Hard core role players and Death Match minded junkies who ruin the game I always compare Survival PVP to real life For example I can go out now and KO a few people on the street but in about 10 min police will be after me and probably I will be shoot dead if I will fight during arresting . But in case your out with family friends and you are attacked by some one you should be free to defend against aggressors. Problem with Open World PVP DEATH MATCH RETARDS ruined mmorpg for minority who don't want random PVP you can craft search for a quest doing your stuff and suddenly you find your self ganked to death. That why I think Survival were not so successful in past because of grifers . Devs. should draw a realistic but invisible wall for such folks . My 2 pennies ))

SavageHorizon

Kyleran said:

SlyLoK said:

I dont want any PvP on the PvE servers.





If combat is more of the action variety then I would like the pace to be about what ESO offers.





Possibly Kill on Sight from other faction NPCs / Guards ( unless you increase your standing with them )





Being able to improve your standing with humanoid mobs.





Crafted gear being better than dropped in all but the rarest of cases.

No PVP on the PVE servers at all? No dueling, no arenas, no match play, none at all?

So have a PVP server, PVE server with flagging system and a total PVE server, that should please everyone, right?

Kyleran

DMKano said:

The problem with "PvE server" survival games is they are usually boring as shit.

Can you imagine H1Z1 or DayZ PvE only server..... /snore

They would have to add a TON of PvE content to keep it interesting,  since Dark and Light has no quests and no deep PvE systems I fear PvE is an afterthought. 

Actually I can imagine a PVE survival game, assuming the Dev's come through on their promise to make the "in game" monsters dangerous and challenging.

I always wanted to play a Zombie survival game where the zombies were the greatest danger, not the other players.

Dragnelus

https://www.reddit.com/r/dnl/comments/560xrc/first_and_third_person_views_both_confirmed/

Tecca

Dragnelus said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dnl/comments/560xrc/first_and_third_person_views_both_confirmed/

This. Also, the last (#1) has been answered as well, though not in-depth of course.

"Yep, we aren't planning on making them quite as intrusive as other games in the genre, but you'll need to carry some rations, wear appropriate equipment based on the environment, etc." - Horsejoke

Now what he means by other games, we can't be sure. But I think it should somewhat help alleviate that worry, at least.

SavageHorizon

Tecca said:

Dragnelus said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/dnl/comments/560xrc/first_and_third_person_views_both_confirmed/

This. Also, the last (#1) has been answered as well, though not in-depth of course.

"Yep, we aren't planning on making them quite as intrusive as other games in the genre, but you'll need to carry some rations, wear appropriate equipment based on the environment, etc." - Horsejoke

Now what he means by other games, we can't be sure. But I think it should somewhat help alleviate that worry, at least.

On top of that they have said that days and season would be synchronized with real life. So are we talking 8 hours of daylight and so fourth. 

I like it.