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Lousy VR games on PS
psiic
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Bought all the games available at the moment and Eve is the only one I'd call a game.
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The vast majority are as you say, not really games, and the PSVR is certainly a more powerful system. I plan on waiting several months before I decide if I'll pick it up, especially since many of the reviews are similar to what you say here.
That, and Daydream releases very soon, so I'll likely migrate my support from Gear VR to phones that support daydream as well.
I can only speak for myself, but on Gear VR I am really enjoying around half the games I'm playing. In particular, Jump, Dreadhalls, Minecraft, Eve Gunjack, Dead Secret, Land's End (although this one is short), Annie Amber, and Quake (sideloaded).
I certainly don't regret the purchase in the least, and I feel that I've more than gotten my money's worth, price of the phone included.
Important to note that Annie Amber and Land's End aren't exactly "games", although Land's End kind of has a Myst thing going on, and I don't mean this in a bad way. There are also lots of free experiences that are clearly works in progress, some of which show potential. The Dream Dimension was one I recently tried that had some shortcomings but also managed to be memorable and interesting. It reminded me a lot of C.S. Lewis' The Magician's Nephew, strikingly so, in fact.
Some of the most compelling experiences aren't even games. Not exaggerating when I state that my first dive into Nomads last night nearly brought me to tears. I can already feel it beginning to change the way I look at the world, in terms of human connection.
The "Mr. Robot" short on the Within app was also really artfully done, and entertaining.
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If that's the case what's the point in buying into VR now. You would be better of waiting for three years for the good games to come out and hopefully by then the VR systems should be more powerful and cheaper.
I think I missed your reasoning behind the 3 years as well. Do you think there will be a fundamental change in hardware in the 3 years? Or will it be the price dropping over 3 years, leading to more purchases and thus more willingness by developers to build games for VR? Or is it just that it will take 3 years for developers to not only understand how to best utilise VR, but then build a AAA game too?
Can VR handle the wait? yes.
why?
1. because BILLIONS of dollars are invested currently in content and that money is currently being spent in said projects.
2. at least Oculus (and likely others) have stated they plan to make NO MONEY ON THE HARDWARE but all in the software and apps. So the revenue stream for VR is well known already to be coming later not now and all the finical expectations are revolving around that expectation.
3. VR already has more games then any first generation console ever had and YES some of the are in fact full blown deep games, you just arent aware of it because the marketing dollars havent told you that should consider them as such. what you are looking for is an advertisement to TELL you that the game in important and deep. Games like Esper2 doesnt tell you that but it is in fact a full force actual real game.
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Granted one of them is a port, and three of them are first party titles, but still.
XBox shipped their XB1 console development kit around june of 2012, and the console released November of 2013... so again.. just a bit more than a years worth of development and launched with about 20 or so games, some of which were huge triple A releases like battlefield 4 and Call of Duty, Fifa and Forza.
VR has had years of development. There is really no excuse why development has been so slow with VR in general. The hardware game has been lively, but the biggest influx of VR users happens to be in the entertainment space rather than the gaming space, and entertainment doesn't require $700+ sets.
In 3 years from now, sure we might see some AAA games... mostly ports I'd assume. We already have several ports of VR games - even mobile games as VR ports.
It isn't gaining as much traction, with extremely poor adoptions ratings simply because for mass market consumers, it's just not worth it. Especially when you can get a cardboard-like set for free or a gear VR set for 50 bucks. Not to mention daydreams headset is about 70 bucks and comes with a controller.
Yes, I think VR will survive for 3 years without it. #remindme
The following is a pretty good article on the ins and outs of current VR headsets:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2016/10/best-vr-headset-2016-psvr-rift-vive/
By the way, I hear with Asynchronous Space Warp the overall entry price for a Rift + PC has taken a dive from $1,600 to $1,100, and that tech is less than a year old as a consumer product.
"The simple is the seal of the true and beauty is the splendor of truth" -Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar
Authored 139 missions in Vendetta Online and 6 tracks in Distance
I mean if you take into consideration that PSVR can utilize a PS4, the system specs across the board for these PC's is insane. Strangely enough a comparable PC to a PS4 is roughly in that 500 dollar range. Unfortunately once motion controllers release for Rift, we're looking at the possibility of the sets increasing in price nominally despite them stating they'll actually drop the headset price to accommodate the new controllers.
The real shame is for those that already bought the headsets, as they won't get the reduced set price, which, by current estimates, would make the Rift more expensive than the vive for early adopters for comparable systems. (meaning with motion controls)
People wait (and I know this because I used to be one of these people) for validation of a game from marketing with the believe (same believe I had) that if a game has millions to spend on advertising then its proof positive that the game must be outstanding.
So unfortunately people are simply waiting for 'big blockbuster' validation which is NOT in my experience dependent on actual quality
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I dont like puzzle games myself but I see the value and had plenty of fun with Esper 2
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https://techcrunch.com/2016/10/18/baobab-studios-raises-25m-as-it-looks-to-bring-richer-storytelling-to-vr/
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PSVR has had at least a year for development. VR in general just doesn't really have as much support as was originally believed.
As for productivity, AR will most assuredly be the future. Magic Leaps new patents show some pretty interesting visions for the future of the workplace.
As a consumer, I can already play 1000s of games on existing consoles and pcs. I actually bought an Xbox 1 S this month for £250, so it's a pretty cheap entry price for the average gamer and you have assurances (based on past experiences, marketing and word of mouth) that you are going to get good stuff.
When it comes to VR, that trust is lacking.
Past experiences tell us these sorts of products usually fail, so most of us are wary. Marketing is telling us that we'll be "in" the games, but that doesn't mean much to us. Word of mouth is extremely mixed - most people I know who have used VR didn't like it, myself included.
So, we're waiting for something that helps us "get it". Usually, that would be a AAA title making full use of the new technology to demonstrate it's superiority over other gaming platforms. So far, we haven't got that. So far as we know, there isn't even anything on the horizon. Maybe you know personally as you're invested in the scene and follow it, but for Mr Joe Public, the information is non-existent.
Essentially, we're waiting a game that:
- Uses 3D to improve gameplay
- Uses motion-tracking to improve gameplay
Those are the two unique features of VR, but neither have been shown to improve gameplay yet. I've been wracking my brain to think up examples for months, but can't come up with any myself, so I'm reliant on developers to explain it to me. Nobody on these forums has been able to provide me with examples either, despite me asking for months.So, what gameplay is possible with a VR headset that isn't possible with a standard gaming platform?
also AAA companies typically FOLLOW the indies, not the other way around. they are usually late to the game, not early
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