I'd much rather have a physical disc and if you don't you're out of your mind. If the hosting company that provides you your digital content shuts down (Steam) you lose everything as you merely lease it through a digital download and key provided by them.
However, you own the disc and it has the full installation on the disc. You can play the content today, tomorrow, or many years later. As long as the operating systems you're running is able support the product.
First of all chances of Steam shutting sown , less than 1% .
Second what you say is not true from experience, Stardock sold there Digital platform years ago to Gamestop , All my games transfered thru that transaction .. Then Gamestop shut the digital platform down , you can no longer buy games thru that service , But all my games are there for me to download and use ...Altho the service is shutdown to anyone else who didnt previously own games
Don't assume you will always have access to anything digital.
To assume that your purchases are safe on Steam, Origin, or [insert digital platform here] is merely naive.
[insert digital platform here] is why I prefer GOG. Yes its digital, but you have it all with no drawbacks. Not only do they update the games if needed for the latest OS, the download is complete. NO DRM!! And you don't need any service to install it. I have all of my GOG software on disks and at least 3 different hard drives.
Can anyone guess why? Because we've seen people suddenly lose access to games they own when they are digital games. If I remember right, it happened in the early days of Steam especially. I'd rather have a physical copy of any game any day even though I've gotten incredibly lazy and starting buying digital.
I'd much rather have a physical disc and if you don't you're out of your mind. If the hosting company that provides you your digital content shuts down (Steam) you lose everything as you merely lease it through a digital download and key provided by them.
However, you own the disc and it has the full installation on the disc. You can play the content today, tomorrow, or many years later. As long as the operating systems you're running is able support the product.
First of all chances of Steam shutting sown , less than 1% .
Second what you say is not true from experience, Stardock sold there Digital platform years ago to Gamestop , All my games transfered thru that transaction .. Then Gamestop shut the digital platform down , you can no longer buy games thru that service , But all my games are there for me to download and use ...Altho the service is shutdown to anyone else who didnt previously own games
Don't assume you will always have access to anything digital.
To assume that your purchases are safe on Steam, Origin, or [insert digital platform here] is merely naive.
yes yes .. lmfao .. the Boogie man might get my games .. lol wtf..paranoid much
Its Boogeyman and isn't there a closet you should be checking out?
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I always go for physical disks for consoles due to the benefit of trading them in. It's the same for PC games but this is due to digital distribution sites, for example Steam (UK) being (IMO) pretty expensive compared to online retailers like Amazon that ships physical copies.
I am no brit but I do prefer the physical copy, when it is an option for couple of reasons.
1) They arrive in the mailbox the same day as game launch, if I've preordered, if it is a released title i can go with my car to the store and get it 2) Physical copies, for some reason, are cheaper than digital downloads I save as much as 10-15 euro per game. One of the examples are Witcher 3 and Fallout 4. Both physical copies, with ALL THE GOODIES INSIDE cost me 50 euro, like the digital version was 59.99 euro, if not more yet I still downloaded digitally through GOG/Steam.
I don't get why digital costs more than retail, but as long as this is true, I'll pick up retail copies. I don't even have CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive, but all the games have some sort of digital download.
In the case of Fallout 4, not even the whole game was on the discs, I had to download more than half the game during installation.
I will never support scamming business tactics. There is absolutely no reason for digital to cost more or as much as retail copies. Not when retail copies give you a ton of goodies like was the case with Witcher 3. If I had paid MORE for W3 I would have never had that awesome map and lore books I have hanging on my wall.
Just preordered Civilization VI, again, 10 euro cheaper than Steam. For every 10 physical games I save 100 euro So in every 5 games I get one for "free". Screw digital lol xD
I'm not British, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express one time. Right now I'm on the cusp, at least for my console. I like having possession the data necessary to play a game forever, even if the company shutters it's doors and online network...but, Im really starting to get tired of getting up to switch out discs. I know, it's sad lol...but it's like just install the damn game at this point...and why can't I do that from the disc I own!?!?!
I'd much rather have a physical disc and if you don't you're out of your mind. If the hosting company that provides you your digital content shuts down (Steam) you lose everything as you merely lease it through a digital download and key provided by them.
However, you own the disc and it has the full installation on the disc. You can play the content today, tomorrow, or many years later. As long as the operating systems you're running is able support the product.
First of all chances of Steam shutting sown , less than 1% .
Second what you say is not true from experience, Stardock sold there Digital platform years ago to Gamestop , All my games transfered thru that transaction .. Then Gamestop shut the digital platform down , you can no longer buy games thru that service , But all my games are there for me to download and use ...Altho the service is shutdown to anyone else who didnt previously own games
Don't assume you will always have access to anything digital.
To assume that your purchases are safe on Steam, Origin, or [insert digital platform here] is merely naive.
yes yes .. lmfao .. the Boogie man might get my games .. lol wtf..paranoid much
Its Boogeyman and isn't there a closet you should be checking out?
I always go for physical disks for consoles due to the benefit of trading them in. It's the same for PC games but this is due to digital distribution sites, for example Steam (UK) being (IMO) pretty expensive compared to online retailers like Amazon that ships physical copies.
More often than not, i've found that i can buy a game cheaper on Amazon, getting a physical copy of the game, than i can get the game on Steam, with the exception of the sales at least, normal prices tend to be higher than those on Amazon. I've never even considered using the MS store to buy games, although i have bought games on EA's Origin, but again, only on sales, normal prices also seem to suffer from Steams higher cost than those on Amazon problem.
I'd much rather have a physical disc and if you don't you're out of your mind. If the hosting company that provides you your digital content shuts down (Steam) you lose everything as you merely lease it through a digital download and key provided by them.
However, you own the disc and it has the full installation on the disc. You can play the content today, tomorrow, or many years later. As long as the operating systems you're running is able support the product.
First of all chances of Steam shutting sown , less than 1% .
Second what you say is not true from experience, Stardock sold there Digital platform years ago to Gamestop , All my games transfered thru that transaction .. Then Gamestop shut the digital platform down , you can no longer buy games thru that service , But all my games are there for me to download and use ...Altho the service is shutdown to anyone else who didnt previously own games
Don't assume you will always have access to anything digital.
To assume that your purchases are safe on Steam, Origin, or [insert digital platform here] is merely naive.
yes yes .. lmfao .. the Boogie man might get my games .. lol wtf..paranoid much
Its Boogeyman and isn't there a closet you should be checking out?
Nope , honeslty not concerned with it one bit , If STeam shut down tommorrow , and my 500 game library went with it , wouldnt really give a fuck , Its a hobby and a bunch of GAMES , gone BFD , If anyone needs to be so worried or concerned over losing there games from there HOBBY , maybe they should look into improving other parts of there life first before purchasing GAMES ...
I can just see some of the whiny errr adults , crying that they lost there games ...
I'd much rather have a physical disc and if you don't you're out of your mind. If the hosting company that provides you your digital content shuts down (Steam) you lose everything as you merely lease it through a digital download and key provided by them.
However, you own the disc and it has the full installation on the disc. You can play the content today, tomorrow, or many years later. As long as the operating systems you're running is able support the product.
First of all chances of Steam shutting sown , less than 1% .
Second what you say is not true from experience, Stardock sold there Digital platform years ago to Gamestop , All my games transfered thru that transaction .. Then Gamestop shut the digital platform down , you can no longer buy games thru that service , But all my games are there for me to download and use ...Altho the service is shutdown to anyone else who didnt previously own games
Don't assume you will always have access to anything digital.
To assume that your purchases are safe on Steam, Origin, or [insert digital platform here] is merely naive.
Don't assume your disc will last and work forever either. Nothing is guaranteed except death.
Ive had a few digital games where I had to move or had email issues where I could no longer play the game... If I had a disc copy of the game I would have had no issue.
For me the one thing i dont care where i get my games from, be they physical or digital, however, the one thing i do miss, is the getting bus/train hme from town after buying said game, and reading every page of the 300 page manual, then wiaitng about 3 hours for it to install
That sense of reading the manual thinking i want to do that now!... led to the excitment of buying the game, nowadays we just youtube the game thats coming out and already there are playable guides, boss kiss, whats/ohows etc... so lot of the pre-play game excitment has gone.
I agree with Max and not only that but it used to be nice to have stores like CompUSA where we could go spend hours looking at box games....Digital download is convenient and easy but it does lack that certain feeling of ownership.
Agreed. Although as time goes by, digital feels more and more normal. For me at least, the physical is rapidly fading. I haven't bought a physical game or book in years. While the feeling of permanence isn't there yet, it's only a matter of time for me. The one area where I'm still steeped in physical is BluRay over digital purchases.
I am no brit but I do prefer the physical copy, when it is an option for couple of reasons.
1) They arrive in the mailbox the same day as game launch, if I've preordered, if it is a released title i can go with my car to the store and get it 2) Physical copies, for some reason, are cheaper than digital downloads I save as much as 10-15 euro per game. One of the examples are Witcher 3 and Fallout 4. Both physical copies, with ALL THE GOODIES INSIDE cost me 50 euro, like the digital version was 59.99 euro, if not more yet I still downloaded digitally through GOG/Steam.
I don't get why digital costs more than retail, but as long as this is true, I'll pick up retail copies. I don't even have CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive, but all the games have some sort of digital download.
In the case of Fallout 4, not even the whole game was on the discs, I had to download more than half the game during installation.
I will never support scamming business tactics. There is absolutely no reason for digital to cost more or as much as retail copies. Not when retail copies give you a ton of goodies like was the case with Witcher 3. If I had paid MORE for W3 I would have never had that awesome map and lore books I have hanging on my wall.
Just preordered Civilization VI, again, 10 euro cheaper than Steam. For every 10 physical games I save 100 euro So in every 5 games I get one for "free". Screw digital lol xD
The digital pricing is odd but not really. They get more money out of it.
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I'd much rather have a physical disc and if you don't you're out of your mind. If the hosting company that provides you your digital content shuts down (Steam) you lose everything as you merely lease it through a digital download and key provided by them.
However, you own the disc and it has the full installation on the disc. You can play the content today, tomorrow, or many years later. As long as the operating systems you're running is able support the product.
First of all chances of Steam shutting sown , less than 1% .
Second what you say is not true from experience, Stardock sold there Digital platform years ago to Gamestop , All my games transfered thru that transaction .. Then Gamestop shut the digital platform down , you can no longer buy games thru that service , But all my games are there for me to download and use ...Altho the service is shutdown to anyone else who didnt previously own games
Don't assume you will always have access to anything digital.
To assume that your purchases are safe on Steam, Origin, or [insert digital platform here] is merely naive.
Don't assume your disc will last and work forever either. Nothing is guaranteed except death.
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Apparently if you have enough money and you're a "genius" you don't have to pay them at all. :surprised:
with how much crap you are starting to have to download and install to start up a game even with buying a disk, pure physical copies seem to be dying regardless, or at least how they were in their original form.
From what I gather, like about 20% of people living in the USA I don't have access to decent broadband. And downloading a 40GB game will take me days. So I rely on being able to buy physical discs (and the growing trend of only giving you a small part of a game even when buying a hard copy absolutely enrages me).
Printed manuals I also miss, but of course these have not really been around for years and years. A life saver here for me has been my tablet. Try reading a 3,000 page .pdf at your desk sometime. Not fun! And yes, that example is for real. The manual(s) for the PDMG Boeing 737 simulator I've been flying encompass just over 3,000 pages. Because they are, in fact, the complete manuals used in the real aircraft itself.
I'm British and definitely prefer physical copies.
I have gone completely digital on PC these days. It took me an awfully long time to trust Valve and Steam but they've won me over. The cheaper prices are great and with my net connection, most games take ~45 minutes from purchase to actually playing the game and it is so easy to uninstall / reinstall. Like others have said, it's really difficult to find boxed PC games in the UK too, certainly where I live I can't think of a single place that sells boxed PC games.
The main reason for wanting physical copies is I love owning a product on disk that I can just insert and play without any worries.
Sadly, most PC games still require a net connection and often force you to link to UPlay / Steam / whatever which defeats the point of buying the disk.
Consoles, I'm 100% physical disc. I've had issues in the past with accounts / email addresses / missing games, especially true when replacing a console (e.g. when i first got red ring of death, lost everything). Certainly the consoles I've had in the past had such small harddrives (my 360 only has 8gb) that it was pointless downloading anything anyway. I don't play online on consoles so I really strive to keep everything offline and physical.
I also never trade in games either, I've managed to get enjoyment out of every game I've ever bought and will often return to it years later. My mother recently moved house after 27 years in the same place and dug out an old playstation, sega saturn and a load of games. Had a great retro-night with my brother, something that isn't possible if you trade in or go digital.
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Everyone really should prefer physical copies mainly because companies can randomly change files over the coarse of time. Licenses are continous as long as the game is digital and if said licenses are discontinued then files need to be altered, such as the use of certain songs and assets in games. GTA San Andreas for the pc is a perfect example.
Digital download is teh same price as Physical Disc's. Excuse of price rising to cover physical copies due to price increase of ink, paper and box covers and such has been proved to be BS. I would prefer physical over download as well. After all physical is there for good, download can cease at any time.
From what I gather, like about 20% of people living in the USA I don't have access to decent broadband. And downloading a 40GB game will take me days. So I rely on being able to buy physical discs (and the growing trend of only giving you a small part of a game even when buying a hard copy absolutely enrages me).
Printed manuals I also miss, but of course these have not really been around for years and years. A life saver here for me has been my tablet. Try reading a 3,000 page .pdf at your desk sometime. Not fun! And yes, that example is for real. The manual(s) for the PDMG Boeing 737 simulator I've been flying encompass just over 3,000 pages. Because they are, in fact, the complete manuals used in the real aircraft itself.
That might be the argument for single player games but online games tend to get a seizable amount of updates and/or extra content during ther lifetime so you are bound to download alot at some point anyway. Also many games which last for a long time later on don't even offer patching up from v1.0 to whatever is at that point and you get to download a whole new client all over again.
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Same applies to movies.
1) They arrive in the mailbox the same day as game launch, if I've preordered, if it is a released title i can go with my car to the store and get it
2) Physical copies, for some reason, are cheaper than digital downloads
I don't get why digital costs more than retail, but as long as this is true, I'll pick up retail copies. I don't even have CD/DVD/Blu-Ray drive, but all the games have some sort of digital download.
In the case of Fallout 4, not even the whole game was on the discs, I had to download more than half the game during installation.
I will never support scamming business tactics. There is absolutely no reason for digital to cost more or as much as retail copies. Not when retail copies give you a ton of goodies like was the case with Witcher 3. If I had paid MORE for W3 I would have never had that awesome map and lore books I have hanging on my wall.
Just preordered Civilization VI, again, 10 euro cheaper than Steam. For every 10 physical games I save 100 euro
PC, I haven't bought a disc in quite some time.
That's just, like, my opinion, man.
Depends on what kind of Boogie man were talking
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I can just see some of the whiny errr adults , crying that they lost there games ...
"Be water my friend" - Bruce Lee
For me the one thing i dont care where i get my games from, be they physical or digital, however, the one thing i do miss, is the getting bus/train hme from town after buying said game, and reading every page of the 300 page manual, then wiaitng about 3 hours for it to install
That sense of reading the manual thinking i want to do that now!... led to the excitment of buying the game, nowadays we just youtube the game thats coming out and already there are playable guides, boss kiss, whats/ohows etc... so lot of the pre-play game excitment has gone.
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
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The digital pricing is odd but not really. They get more money out of it.
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Printed manuals I also miss, but of course these have not really been around for years and years. A life saver here for me has been my tablet. Try reading a 3,000 page .pdf at your desk sometime. Not fun! And yes, that example is for real. The manual(s) for the PDMG Boeing 737 simulator I've been flying encompass just over 3,000 pages. Because they are, in fact, the complete manuals used in the real aircraft itself.
I have gone completely digital on PC these days. It took me an awfully long time to trust Valve and Steam but they've won me over. The cheaper prices are great and with my net connection, most games take ~45 minutes from purchase to actually playing the game and it is so easy to uninstall / reinstall. Like others have said, it's really difficult to find boxed PC games in the UK too, certainly where I live I can't think of a single place that sells boxed PC games.
The main reason for wanting physical copies is I love owning a product on disk that I can just insert and play without any worries.
Sadly, most PC games still require a net connection and often force you to link to UPlay / Steam / whatever which defeats the point of buying the disk.
Consoles, I'm 100% physical disc. I've had issues in the past with accounts / email addresses / missing games, especially true when replacing a console (e.g. when i first got red ring of death, lost everything). Certainly the consoles I've had in the past had such small harddrives (my 360 only has 8gb) that it was pointless downloading anything anyway. I don't play online on consoles so I really strive to keep everything offline and physical.
I also never trade in games either, I've managed to get enjoyment out of every game I've ever bought and will often return to it years later. My mother recently moved house after 27 years in the same place and dug out an old playstation, sega saturn and a load of games. Had a great retro-night with my brother, something that isn't possible if you trade in or go digital.
Excuse of price rising to cover physical copies due to price increase of ink, paper and box covers and such has been proved to be BS.
I would prefer physical over download as well. After all physical is there for good, download can cease at any time.
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Wanting a disc argument is really really weak.