Star Wars and the Modern MMO a Columns at MMORPG.com

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Star Wars and the Modern MMO a Columns at MMORPG.com

I often think about how I’d love to play SWTOR – only re-imagined with the new landscape of MMOs in mind. But things like action combat or even a smaller set of active abilities probably aren’t going to ever happen for SWTOR, so where does that leave things for the future of Star Wars and online games?

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danwest58

If we got a new Star Wars MMO I would Mix SWTOR with SWG. I would have the SWG world, Skill Make up (Pre-CU) and Crafting. I would add in story like instances from SWTOR, I would add in SWTOR quest as 1 path to skill up, I would also add instances and open world Dungeons.

eddieg50

Space combat please, and I am not talking about the joke they have now

Nanfoodle

A Star Wars MMO will never be involved in current events because its getting too close to messing with cannon. Current events are for single player games. IMO I like a story being told outside whats current. It adds to the depth of the story for me. Also tells a story thats not being told in cannon. Also I am sick of action combat. I am glad there are a few gems out there that are not trying to be every other cookie cutter game we have had for the past 5 years. 

Manezao

I think the only problem with SWTOR...
Is the F2P model....Sucks a lot....
Too much restrictions, even you´re prefreed.....

CrazKanuk

danwest58 said:

If we got a new Star Wars MMO I would Mix SWTOR with SWG. I would have the SWG world, Skill Make up (Pre-CU) and Crafting. I would add in story like instances from SWTOR, I would add in SWTOR quest as 1 path to skill up, I would also add instances and open world Dungeons.

I'd love to see something like this, where professions are actually meaningful and that's just "what you do" instead of everyone being "the only hope". However, I think that it's more realistic that we'll see something like what is being described. Remember that EA owns the Star Wars IP for video games exclusively, so you know it'll have mass appeal. So I think that any hope of something appealing to a niche audience is out of the question. That is unless they get something thrown in their laps which is a couple million bucks to do and already has some hype behind it. 

Until then, swgemu seems like the best bet. 

FelixMajor

Yeah, gets real tiring when in every game you are the hero. It would honestly be quite fun role playing real world characters in the setting and not always trying to save the world.

Furh79

Manezao said:

I think the only problem with SWTOR...
Is the F2P model....Sucks a lot....
Too much restrictions, even you´re prefreed.....

Have never understood this complaint.  Yes swtor has flaws but it's still one of top mmos out today no matter how much people cry about it..facts aren't on their side...

As for its f2p model you can play the entire original game for free?  To expect more is absurd. 

Nanfoodle

There are two types of MMOs, one thats in depth with class interdependence and designed to bring gamers together and the other one where you dont play the game or with people. Its about dodging red circles. 

Horusra

Furh79 said:

Manezao said:

I think the only problem with SWTOR...
Is the F2P model....Sucks a lot....
Too much restrictions, even you´re prefreed.....

Have never understood this complaint.  Yes swtor has flaws but it's still one of top mmos out today no matter how much people cry about it..facts aren't on their side...

As for its f2p model you can play the entire original game for free?  To expect more is absurd. 

Feel the Burn.

vveaver_online

swtor is not even star wars at this point. its just legend crap.

Archlyte

Good column. I don't agree with a SW loot shooter as the best option but I agree that it would be a good one.

I would like to see a game with ESO character combat, SWG planets, and really compelling scripted content that is not centered around being the savior of the universe.

Force powers are the ultimate crap-up for any SW game, so something like the Werewolf setup from ESO would work well imo. I would run many of the big force powers on ling timers, resources, and a currency system for use. Even busting out the lightsaber would be something not done just for shits and giggles.

I think some sort of Assassin's Creed version of a Star Wars game is all we are likely to see. Biggest IP means too many interpretations I guess, so rather than being a sure thing, it becomes a near miss for most people in whatever form it takes.

Archlyte

FelixMajor said:

Yeah, gets real tiring when in every game you are the hero. It would honestly be quite fun role playing real world characters in the setting and not always trying to save the world.

If you put players as the pinnacle of importance in the world, and then have the world completely separated from those characters it is essentially a null equation. Guess what: you saved the universe, then you woke up from your instance and trundled along on the station with everyone else who had that dream too.

That was the biggest mistake they made in SWTOR, no one is anything because everyone is THE Hero. In the absence of anything else to do it just makes for a weak MMO.

Joseph_Kerr

I'd be happy with a Star Wars looter like Diablo 3 but with Jedi, Sith, Smugglers, Bounty Hunters, etc. But i'd love to see a Star Wars mmo where the shooter mechanics worked like a cover based shooter like The Division and the Jedi and Sith melee combat played something like Assassins Creed.

Maelzrael

I want a SWTFU style Mmorpg actually. The combat and the story of that game were the shit. A Destiny style Star wars game would be a good second choice I guess.

lindhsky

I like that it's not action combat. But what I hate about the game is how easy it became after I came back after a year or two off. The followers were too strong. I actually wish they didn't have followers at all. It gets pretty old when all are running around with the same anyway.

Zendai

What a surprise, I'm the only one on MMORPG.com that seems to appreciate SWTOR for the amazing game it was and is. I could go for a redesign to catch up to the future I guess. Maybe make the game a bit easier to play for the majority of people, as the rotation sequences and FP or OPS bosses are quite difficult for 80% of the player base.

Shooter MMO like the Division? Please God NO!

I play the non-force classes quite a bit, one of my mains is a Mercenary. With that said, removing the options, or limiting the experience of Force users in a Star Wars game doesn't interest me. A space combat oriented Star Wars MMO could be very fun though, as GSF is incredibly fun, just sort of stale at this point.

ApexTKM

I'm not interested in star wars mmos that look like WoW or have action combat like final fantasy or wildstar. I'm interested in a star wars mmo that will make me feel like I'm a part of the star wars universe and so far that's never been done since SWG. I have a pessimistic view about the future of Star Wars MMOs if its going to be anything like SWTOR, I'd shun it. Sucks to be a star wars fan, at least the ones like me.

If they were to make a star wars skin of Ultima Online I'd play that over SWTOR any day.

Azaron_Nightblade

Zendai said:

What a surprise, I'm the only one on MMORPG.com that seems to appreciate SWTOR for the amazing game it was and is. I could go for a redesign to catch up to the future I guess. Maybe make the game a bit easier to play for the majority of people, as the rotation sequences and FP or OPS bosses are quite difficult for 80% of the player base.

Shooter MMO like the Division? Please God NO!

I play the non-force classes quite a bit, one of my mains is a Mercenary. With that said, removing the options, or limiting the experience of Force users in a Star Wars game doesn't interest me. A space combat oriented Star Wars MMO could be very fun though, as GSF is incredibly fun, just sort of stale at this point.

You're far from the only one. It's just that the haters are a lot more vocal. :pleased:

Nanfoodle

Azaron_Nightblade said:

Zendai said:

What a surprise, I'm the only one on MMORPG.com that seems to appreciate SWTOR for the amazing game it was and is. I could go for a redesign to catch up to the future I guess. Maybe make the game a bit easier to play for the majority of people, as the rotation sequences and FP or OPS bosses are quite difficult for 80% of the player base.

Shooter MMO like the Division? Please God NO!

I play the non-force classes quite a bit, one of my mains is a Mercenary. With that said, removing the options, or limiting the experience of Force users in a Star Wars game doesn't interest me. A space combat oriented Star Wars MMO could be very fun though, as GSF is incredibly fun, just sort of stale at this point.

You're far from the only one. It's just that the haters are a lot more vocal. :pleased:

Yup, its the most modern MMO out that still uses the trinity. The market has failed me but I still have a MMO worth playing so Im happy. Love SWToR.

Azaron_Nightblade

As for my dream Star Wars MMO at the moment? Give me BDO's combat, graphics and world(s) combined with SWTOR's epic story lines and voice acting, as well as the Operations and Flashpoints, and I'll be one happy camper.

Heck, the node and castle wars would be cool for PvPers too. xD

ApexTKM

Azaron_Nightblade said:

You're far from the only one. It's just that the haters are a lot more vocal. :pleased:

As much as I criticize SWTOR because I hate it for a reason.

I'll be the one to admit that SWTOR is a fine game for what it is. As contradicting it may seem I'm not going to say that it's an awful game just because I'm critical of the game.

sayuu

wait, the modern MMO is a third person shooter with extra-light RPG elements tossed in?

since when?


I wish people would stop trying to lump lobby based shooters, online co-op and MOBA games in with MMOs.

It like people think nowadays that any game that has online play is a MMO, even if that game is checkers. . .


as for a starwars looter shooter sure why not, just dont call it a MMO. . .

[RedDragon]

Give us a new Jedi Knight game!

fronny69

More SWG aspects brought into SWTOR would be great but it's not gonna happen. Crafting is pointless in SWTOR. Exploration is also pointless, pvp could be much much better and class customization is basically non existent. In SWG you had a fun and dynamic pvp system, many more classes / professions to choose from and ways to create different builds PRE-CU. The universe felt huge, economy was super active, ever changing and competitive, resource quality changed the outcome of crafted items, you could harvest, craft or live off bounty hunting and killing other players. People played and enjoyed their classes because they mattered and were fun, planets were unique and not a copy paste of the same stuff and structures over and over and over again with a different skin like in SWTOR. Granted, SWTOR has some cool operations/raids but those are really getting old by now. The story and voice acting is amazing and I like the concept behind the legacy system too. It could use action combat and a decent space combat for people interested in that, better looking armor and weapons too, a decent housing system instead of the crappy SH hook-based instances available and the list goes on and on... But really at this point, after so many years none of this is gonna happen. This game is what it is.

Tyserie

It would be good game if its not Star Wars universe/brand. But Star Wars MMORPG? People should have their brains melted after first sign in game. This should have been EPIC, best of the best virtual adventure. Instead of that we have this "nice" game Low textures, completely boring level design with no details. I mean, they had to go F2P. What in gods sake can be better brand then SW to make money. If you fuck up trademark like this, that you have to even go F2P, that means something. But if not SW, yeah, nice game, I would stay few months (3) like I even did.