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Crowfall - Crafting Demonstrated - MMORPG.com
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Crowfall - Crafting Demonstrated - MMORPG.com
This week Timothy Eisen takes part in history, touches on testing the big game world and tries to talk about the crafting demo Artcraft recently showed us.
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My current hope for the "Big World" is them relaxing a bit on the whole fog of war thing. I'd like to see further out. It's their first test with this, and it's still in Pre-alpha, so I'm hopeful. This is in addition to the other things they need to refine, of course.
Talking about hard core...crafters
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I'm certain they will learn from this. Wait until the next test and see how it goes. If they don't allow people to test it they're idiots plain and simple. Save the loot-based PvP for later tests...you know, when you're not SPECIFICALLY trying to test crafting.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
@Octagon7711 @Kajidourden @Joseph_Kerr @Arglebargle @TimEisen What might make the difference is that Crowfall's tech alows rulesets from friendly fire(FFA) / full loot all the way "down" to PvP completely off if an EK monarch wishes so, including classical RvRvR or any factions system or GvG and so on.
Furthermore, they can vary extreme details such as physics or the strength of magic etc. in a given world, together with many other sliders - and they very much intend to do so, seeking the right formula (or half a dozen of "formulas" for different tastes, which is more likely to happen). Todd referred to it as "genetic design" couple times, allowing worlds to evolve and adapt (or die and be replaced) rather quickly, a luxury we didn't have in the past.
Speaking of griefers vs crafters, I guess that CF team didn't want to make testing population even smaller by separation and, besides crafting, they were also stress testing the server, then there is millions of combat bugs and glitches which require lots of people killing each other (and then writing reports i.e giving feedback) and so on.
I mean, they can't just snap their fingers and summon 1k testers everyday - these things are happening in waves, during milestones such as this one. Meantime - you can sometimes log in to test server and see 5 other guys, three of which are devs. That is likely the other side of that seemingly ridiculous decision.
what is the purpose of testing? They need to test crafting. Hope nobody is going to suggest you need to test killing crafters.
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PS there is more details in my post above yours, we wrote these roughly at the same time so maybe you missed it - but I gave you a kind of TLDR here.
This is a PVP game. If you see Crowfall and you're some frail cry baby type... avoid the game. It's called C-r-o-w-f-a-l-l ...avoid it..
How do these full time victims find these games to cry about them?
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Sheesh, original words would be welcomed as much as a review with clarity and insight.
I didn't see that it was 100% for sure a stress test. If that was the case, they should do what all those games have done in the past and have people load up into a zone/area. If what you are claiming about stress test is factual.
IF they need to test crafting, that should be done by....having players craft. I hope I am making sense on this.
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https://archive.org/details/softwarelibrary_msdos?&sort=-downloads&page=1
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Leaving PVP on during a TEST on crafting is like leaving a piece of electrical equipment plugged in while you f#%k around with the capacitors.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
All you have to do is clip into the side of a tree and nobody will ever find you. I crafted for like an hour that way.
The problem is the average carebear is too daft to figure that out. Only took me 5 minutes to discover that trick.
That's what happens when you choose to make game developers solve your problems with forced game parameters rather than figure out how to survive yourself. You become soft, and dimwitted.
I cut my teeth on games like Rust and DayZ. HTFU
If they wanted to just test crafting, they could have easily disabled PvP to allow for that, afterall they put in the ruleset removing pvp against people in your same group. but they didn't, because they were not concerned with people being able to craft.
They just wanted a bunch of people on the server doing all kinds of random shit to see if the tech would handle it.
Point being, it's not as easy as "Wanna test crafting? Just let them craft.", as I tried to explain up there.
Oh come now... there are so many places in the Big World (behind trees, rocks at map edges in the castle behind corners) that it is easy to get out of sight and craft let alone there is no log-out delays so all you have to do is find a sweet spot to craft and on top of that the combat is not insta-gib so you have like 10 seconds to log if you are attacked. It is so easy a four year old minecraft player could avoid loosing his mats. NO, there will not be any safe zone in crowfall, EVER! The whole point of this game is to give the sweet rewards of playing in a "Danger zone" every minute of every hour of every day to keep the adrenaline flowing. Test is no different, who would "test" in a boring world, certainly not a single Crow I know?
I am not clicking that "other"revenue generating link when it SHOULD be all tied into this ONE article,especially since the article claims crafting.So you want us to click another link to actually get to what the article claims we came here for....lame...very lame.
You claim crafting demonstration,well let's see it..geesh.
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All the mats you drop help them test the crafting so don't worry its being tested and much quicker because the mats are come in faster
1. The announcement for this early big World playtest CLEARLY pointed out that this test is not for faint of heart and it will not be a forgiving world. This test is NOT to test pvp mechanics or inventory dropping or anything like that. Its not really even to test crafting. Its a HARVESTING test to make sure nodes and gathering works.
2. Again, this is not a stress test of the servers! LoL.. the servers are minimal and testing is being kept quite small. The people who are playing right now have all spent 200$ or more in order to get access to test Alpha 1. I would hope that someone who throws 200 bucks at a game understands that their role in Alpha 1 is to test what the devs want tested and its not to go out and have a stable server to enjoy playing a fully functional demo.
3. There are plenty of people testing who not only are willing to do it w.out getting paid, but who are willing to pay money to do it. If you cant understand this then I feel sorry for your bank account.