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EVE player uses $28,000 of skill injectors to create max character
hatefulpeace
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http://massivelyop.com/2016/02/15/eve-player-uses-28000-of-skill-injectors-to-create-max-character/
I want to start off saying I really don't care that this game is pay 2 win, but i find it fricken hilarious how butt hurt the people in this game get, when you tell them that. They spend hours defending how a game where you can get instant ships, skills, money, power with real money is not pay 2 win. The argument of course in their mind hinges on the fact that, its not winning cause some one who plays for 6 months or so and has some skill points can be useful in pvp. Fact remains that if you take 2 people, one with 28 grand and one with 15 bucks, and the 2 people dueled the guy with 15 bucks with lose for the next year or more, in till he caught up slightly. I don't get why people one have to defend a clearly pay 2 win game, if they enjoy playing it, and 2 why they come up with the most crazy excuses to make it not pay 2 win for them? It is like if they ever came to reality to see the game is pay 2 win, the game wouldn't be fun for them any more. The guy in the story didn't use real money in this case, but scamming people with gambling, either way though, you could do the same thing with cash. So really guys get over being butt hurt about a game being pay 2 win already, it anit going back to ultima online and eq days, where there were no cash shops. Even those games were pay 2 win, cause you could by a instant max character from a person.
So i guess all I am really saying, if you like a game who cares if it is pay 2 win or not? Why make up all these weird excuses to say its not, going so far as getting angry when some one says the game is clearly pay 2 win. Add in the fact that the definition of pay 2 win is worthless, but in all mmos if you pay cash you get a advantage over some one who doesn't. The only exceptions which arent really mmos are, mobas, and a select few emulated mmos like SWGEMU, and project 1999. In any other game, you literally can max everything with cash, and have huge advantages over people who dont pay as much.
I want to start off saying I really don't care that this game is pay 2 win, but i find it fricken hilarious how butt hurt the people in this game get, when you tell them that. They spend hours defending how a game where you can get instant ships, skills, money, power with real money is not pay 2 win. The argument of course in their mind hinges on the fact that, its not winning cause some one who plays for 6 months or so and has some skill points can be useful in pvp. Fact remains that if you take 2 people, one with 28 grand and one with 15 bucks, and the 2 people dueled the guy with 15 bucks with lose for the next year or more, in till he caught up slightly. I don't get why people one have to defend a clearly pay 2 win game, if they enjoy playing it, and 2 why they come up with the most crazy excuses to make it not pay 2 win for them? It is like if they ever came to reality to see the game is pay 2 win, the game wouldn't be fun for them any more. The guy in the story didn't use real money in this case, but scamming people with gambling, either way though, you could do the same thing with cash. So really guys get over being butt hurt about a game being pay 2 win already, it anit going back to ultima online and eq days, where there were no cash shops. Even those games were pay 2 win, cause you could by a instant max character from a person.
So i guess all I am really saying, if you like a game who cares if it is pay 2 win or not? Why make up all these weird excuses to say its not, going so far as getting angry when some one says the game is clearly pay 2 win. Add in the fact that the definition of pay 2 win is worthless, but in all mmos if you pay cash you get a advantage over some one who doesn't. The only exceptions which arent really mmos are, mobas, and a select few emulated mmos like SWGEMU, and project 1999. In any other game, you literally can max everything with cash, and have huge advantages over people who dont pay as much.
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A fool and his money
When you don't want the truth, you will make up your own truth.
In the meantime many others have maxxed out. And more often than not it did not make them better players ... they still lose ... just lose in more expensive ships.
And BTW many of those people with too much money for skill injectors got burned down (read: banned) by CCP last month, when the EVE gambling sites were taken down and CCP voided the equivalent of 620.000 dollar in in game currency
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2016/10/12/gambling-banned-in-eve-online/
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However, the spirit and the intent of P2W, it doesn't meet IMO. IMO the spirit of P2W means that you are buying an actual advantage that the free players can't get through crafting or working towards. So if you can buy a sword with properties that I just can't get in game, then I would say that you meet the intent or P2W. If you can raise stats or other abilities that I can't get by playing, then it meets the spirit of P2W.
The fact that you can get to max level in the blink of an eye, isn't P2W IMO. As long as when I get to that level, you don't have abilities that I can't git.
Spirit of the lawVs Letter of the law. Almost every game will meet the letter of the law. Not so sure about the spirit of the law.
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So he didn't use $28,000.00 of real money? That would make your post a trolling post.
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I self identify as a monkey.
How is this game P2W?
This player is invincible now?
You only use like 1% of the skills you have when jumping into a certain ship.
And even then: he can jump in a ship worth 100 billion credits, and get tackled + kited around by a target worth 10M sp in a 50M ship he can't hit and kill.
Gather 10 noobs and 1 decent FC and they will killl him.
A win is decided by using your brain, ingame skills only help a bit.
EVE is rock paper scissors. Not skills learned > everything else.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Meet a fan who has spent $30,000 on Star Citizen ships
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Character A has 20 million skill points and Character B has 400 million. Character A has level 5 in all relevant skills for the ships he flies (let's say HACs). If Character A and B face off in HACs they are exactly the same in every way. B's advantage is that he can play a wider variety of ships, but there are thousands of other players who are all level 5 in those ships too.
If this was 2008 and people weren't already capable of matching anything this guy can do, it might be an issue, but we're long passed that point. P2W implies he is gaining some advantage that gives him an almost insurmountable difference in power, but at best he's made his character equal to existing players.
Besides, what's he going to do? Take a Titan and try to gank people? All that will do is give some enterprising corp a juicy 100+ billion ISK killmail.
He used in game money gained from an EVE gambling site to pay for the skill injectors.
Only last month did CCP burn down these gambling sites, declared them illegal and deleted in game money equivalent to 620.000$ coming from these sites.
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But, how long have they been around? If they were truly serious, anyone that used them would have been burned, like downgrading this guys toon to it's original level.
I am quite certain that not everyone that ever used these gambling sites was downgraded. I suppose that there was a cut off point not too long ago. All ISK after that was traced and removed.
But only CCP knows the full truth of the matter. We can only speculate. And plenty of people have done so, as you will found out with a short Google search.
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