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Computer smell, need advice

broken415broken415 Member UncommonPosts: 12
Hi everyone! I made a post here a while ago about my computer having a horrid smell coming from it. Just recently have I tried to figure out the problem since I've been so busy with school up until now. So I downloaded hwmonitor to check my computers temperatures to see if the smell was coming from something overheating. Mind you, I am horrible with computers and just take other peoples advice when it comes to these things, so I don't really know what I'm doing. I'm just guessing with everything I'm doing and assuming lol.

At the moment, I'm assuming the PSU is the problem since the temps showing from hwmonitor seemed relatively fine. Also, my computer just shut off on its own when I was just updating games on steam (temps seemed fine or atleast at a moderate level when this happened). The smell also appeared while the temps were at moderate level, so I assumed none of those parts were the issue, since they weren't overheating.

I suspect the PSU but wanted to make this post to get other peoples opinions. Don't wanna buy a new psu and end up returning it because it wasn't the right piece and I still end up with the horrible smell. Also fyi, my computer used to shut down on its own before too, but that was when I was playing csgo for like almost an hour straight and my computer was actually heating up. Also when I turned it back on, I forget the exact words, but it was something like "shut down because overclock or overheating" or something along those lines. 

I bought a new cpu a while back because I thought that was the problem. However, when I placed the cpu in, the smell was still there. My friend said it might be because new cpu comes with a smell and that I just need to keep using it or something like that and the smell will eventually go away. It's been a month or two, and the smell is still there. I don't open my pc often (only when I try to fix the problem, which is every month or so) so I'm not too sure. 

Any feedback would be much appreciated! Thanks.
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  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    Maybe the hamster died in it.
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  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    edited January 2017
    CPUs should have no smell at all. It's sandwiched between a ZIF socket and your cooler, so it would pretty much have to melt down before you could smell it.

    You should be able to tell pretty readily if it's the PSU just by sniffing the fan outlet from the PSU - if it's really strong coming out of that fan, stronger than other spots blowing out from the case, that's probably the culprit.

    And you should replace it ASAP - PSU, when it finally dies, usually take out a lot more in parts - RAM almost always dies, motherboards usually die, video cards can die, and hard drives can die.

    Temps from HWMonitor are good then you can reasonably assume it's not one of those components. That doesn't necessarily mean it's a PSU problem - just for example, it could be a developing short on a sound card or NIC that's causing an overcurrent (and your smell), and the PSU is shutting down like it's supposed on overcurrent to protect itself.

    In fact, if I were you, I'd probably just replace the PSU on principle anyway, and then if the smell still doesn't go away after that, keep the new PSU anyway and keep hunting for what's about to catch on fire. I don't know exactly what's in your computer, but something along these lines is what I'd look for:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151094
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    When people buy a new PC, the PSU is always overlooked.
    It is one of the most important things.
    First a good PSU keeps your PC safe from a Power Surge which might fry your Motherboard.
    Second it supplies power to your GPU of course, s oit needs an high wattage.
    Some GPUs are really power hungry and if the PSU is not up to the job then you get black screens and PC restart if it doesn't get enough power  (That's why your PC restart suddenly after intense use).

    Do you smell burnt rubber?
    In this case is definitely the PSU.

    Which model is your PSU?
    Though I suspect you don't know, not many people care.

  • VolgoreVolgore Member EpicPosts: 3,872
    Maybe a frying capacitor in the power supply.
    If it should blow, make sure to not inhale the smoke.

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  • broken415broken415 Member UncommonPosts: 12
    Honestly I can't tell where the smell is coming from. Sometimes, I feel like its coming from the PSU area. Sometimes I feel like its coming from the cpu/motherboard area. I had my friend sniff it out with my a few times. He said he smells it from the cpu/motherboard area. I did it again with my brother, and he said it was PSU. I'm just buy a new PSU cause at this point, I don't know what else to do lol.
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    broken415 said:
    Honestly I can't tell where the smell is coming from. Sometimes, I feel like its coming from the PSU area. Sometimes I feel like its coming from the cpu/motherboard area. I had my friend sniff it out with my a few times. He said he smells it from the cpu/motherboard area. I did it again with my brother, and he said it was PSU. I'm just buy a new PSU cause at this point, I don't know what else to do lol.
    And buy a good one, it's going to save you some unnecessary headache in the future.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,524
    What hardware do you have in your current computer, anyway?  Post as much of your specs as you can, certainly including the CPU and video card.  Also make sure you find out what power supply you have.  If you don't know, then open up the case and read the label to find out.

    Here's your previous thread that you alluded to above:

    http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/457499/my-computer-has-a-sort-of-burning-smell#latest

    I asked the same question about hardware specs then, and am still waiting for an answer.  There's only so much that can be done to help without more details about what you have.
  • H0urg1assH0urg1ass Member EpicPosts: 2,380
    The problem is that you let the magic smoke out of the PSU.  You have to work really hard to keep all the magic smoke inside the computer or it will stop working.
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    Volgore said:
    Maybe a frying capacitor in the power supply.
    If it should blow, make sure to not inhale the smoke.
    I think you nailed it. If one or more capacitors in the PSU is going bad its probably leaking oil which is in turn being heated by the other PSU components causing the stink. It could also be a mother board capacitor which you could see either by it being bulging, discolored, or leaking oil.
    It seems fried PSU cases are more common than mobo ones. 

    To OP:

    * What PSU brand are you using?

    * You can calculate your PSU wattage needs with this: http://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator



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  • frostymugfrostymug Member RarePosts: 645
    That's a pretty bottom end PSU. The Stallion series were made by Solytech and they've never been known to use quality caps.

    My money is on PSU now for sure
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,524
    edited January 2017
    It's never a good sign when a "600 W" power supply is rated at meaningfully less than 600 W on the +3.3 V, +5 V, and +12 V rails added together.  It's also not a good sign when a power supply has no 80 PLUS certification whatsoever.  So your power supply is of the sort that I'd suspect of causing trouble even if you weren't having smell issues that are likely traceable to it.  Replace it with this and the problem likely goes away:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151119

    And if you keep your current power supply until it dies, you may well have to replace more than just the power supply.

    That's quite a good price on that power supply I linked, by the way.  $50 after rebate for a very good quality 550 W power supply is practically stealing, and cheap enough that there's no need to look at cheaper power supplies that are probably good enough.  Even $65 if you ignore the rebate is a pretty good price on it.
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    edited January 2017
    H0urg1ass said:
    The problem is that you let the magic smoke out of the PSU.  You have to work really hard to keep all the magic smoke inside the computer or it will stop working.
    I literally spit out my coffee.. :lol:

    broken415 said:
    I dunno, I think your PSU can sufficiently power up your components..

    How long you have used that PSU?

    Edit: Oh, for budget-friendly option, you can choose PSU from FSP brand.



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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,524
    That said, if your computer makes the burning smell just by being on, it wouldn't hurt to sniff around and try to see if it's coming from the power supply.  Hopefully the power supply is still the only problem, but dodgy power supplies can damage other hardware.  Don't try running a stress test to see if you can cause the burning smell, though, as that's too risky.
  • filmoretfilmoret Member EpicPosts: 4,906
    edited January 2017
    I know is kinda barbaric but once you remove the psu you can smell in the fan area and see if its in there.  If you don't smell anything within the psu you gotta basically sniff around each part and look to see if you got anything with scorch marks.  Do not try to sniff anything while its running you will be wasting time.

    I would not turn on a computer with a burning smell.  Check all power connectors.  Unplug them and look at the ends to see if they are burnt, melted, black, discolored.  Smell them one at a time as well.  Take a flashlight and look closely at your motherboard for any signs of burn marks usually near a connector.

    If you are lucky its one of the case fans.
    Are you onto something or just on something?
  • emperorhades1emperorhades1 Member RarePosts: 422
    You really need to describe your hardware better and the smell better.  My first guess when you say smell and heat would lead me to a coolant leak from a liquid cooled system.  This will lead to a very very expensive problem.  Worse than losing just a processor or motherboard.  It could take out the entire system.  IF you have a liquid cooled system, feel for a oily residue around the processor and coolant lines near the processor.  
  • frostymugfrostymug Member RarePosts: 645
    That model of PSU is sold under a few different brands and names. They are relatively solid and ripple free, but there are also multiple reports of them popping the no name caps or melting the pcb adhesive.

    Anything 80+ rated from Seasonic or a Seasonic rebrand is not a bad investment. There are better in some wattage ranges, but Seasonic is about as solid across the board as any PSU manufacturer.

    You really shouldn't be close to stressing 600W, or the 550ish it actually puts out, based on your hardware list, but that's what I'd look to replace first regardless. Sketchy quality and relatively easy and cheap to replace.

    I've roasted more than my share of power supplies over the years, sometimes intentionally, sometimes I was paid to. Never, ever had one take out anything other than itself. Plenty of instability issues that were all resolved with the PSU replacement, but nothing beyond that. Things like the computer shutting down while updating games on Steam. I'm sure I'm just exceptionally lucky and all the anecdotes are true though.

    Good luck
  • broken415broken415 Member UncommonPosts: 12
    I'm kind of on a budget atm and would like to get the cheapest but most effective PSU available. 

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP3RB4797

    Would this one be good? 
  • Stuka1000Stuka1000 Member UncommonPosts: 955
    Wouldn't hurt to open up the case and clean all the dust out of there from the coolers, filters etc.  Then if it still smells start to consider replacing stuff starting with the psu.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,524
    H0urg1ass said:
    The problem is that you let the magic smoke out of the PSU.  You have to work really hard to keep all the magic smoke inside the computer or it will stop working.
    I literally spit out my coffee.. :lol:

    broken415 said:
    I dunno, I think your PSU can sufficiently power up your components..

    How long you have used that PSU?

    Edit: Oh, for budget-friendly option, you can choose PSU from FSP brand.
    A good quality 600 W power supply can handle that system just fine.  For that matter, a good quality 400 W power supply would probably be fine, though it would limit your upgrade options.  The problem is that original poster doesn't have a good quality power supply of 600 W or any other wattage.
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,524
    edited January 2017
    broken415 said:
    I'm kind of on a budget atm and would like to get the cheapest but most effective PSU available. 

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP3RB4797

    Would this one be good? 
    It's probably better than what you have now, but that's not actually the same as being good.  Even if you're not willing to spend $50 after rebate for the very good power supply that I linked above, you're still only a few dollars away from something substantially better than the one you linked:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074
  • RaquisRaquis Member RarePosts: 1,029
    somebody put something in your pc bro;)
  • frostymugfrostymug Member RarePosts: 645
    broken415 said:
    I'm kind of on a budget atm and would like to get the cheapest but most effective PSU available. 

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA6ZP3RB4797

    Would this one be good? 
    Not bad, not great. Those EVGAs are made by HEC I think. 

    The 430 Quizzical linked above is the answer. Don't know all your specs, but even if you're running an overclocked 8370 and 4 or 5 drives with more case lights than a Christmas tree you're likely not cracking 400w total.
  • ReaperUkReaperUk Member UncommonPosts: 760
    Tiller said:
    Maybe the hamster died in it.
    This could actually be the closest to the truth. Everybody's considering electrical faults but if the PC is on the floor under the desk, it could have a dead mouse in it. They smell really horrible. I had that with a fridge once.
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    edited January 2017
    H0urg1ass said:
    The problem is that you let the magic smoke out of the PSU.  You have to work really hard to keep all the magic smoke inside the computer or it will stop working.
    lol oh the magic smoke thing, engineer humor I remember well enough.

    ReaperUk said:
    Tiller said:
    Maybe the hamster died in it.
    This could actually be the closest to the truth. Everybody's considering electrical faults but if the PC is on the floor under the desk, it could have a dead mouse in it. They smell really horrible. I had that with a fridge once.

    Computers are nice warm places; could happen.
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