Please help with my pc upgrade/build

tadams2tone

So I've gotten back into BDO. My PC is about 5-6 years old and my processor is really not cutting it. Here are some of the relevant specs.

Asus M5A97 AMD 970 Motherboard

AMD FX-8150 CPU (8x 3.6GHz/8mb L2 Cache)

970 TI GPU

I'm thinking of getting this CPU since (it's a 8350 4.0 cpu) it's rly cheap and compatible with my motherboard. https://www.amazon.com/AMD-FD8350FRHKBOX-FX-8350-8-Core-Processor/dp/B009O7YUF6 . I would love to get an Intel MB/CPU but I just can't afford it right now. When I first got my computer I just didn't know then what I know now.

I have some questions though. I can easily software OC my cpu to 3.9. Would there still be a good difference with getting the 8350? I read that stock clocks still effect things a lot even if OCed. Either way, will I see substantial difference? I don't need or expect to run everything at max, I just want to even out the fps a little bit for when I exp or hang out with the guild. So, what I really wanna know is if this small upgrade would be worth it, or should I just save my money until I can get enough together for an Intel compatible MB and an I5/I7? I'm hoping maybe I can do this small upgrade and wait for a year or so before I redo the Board.

I really appreciate your help in advance.

frostymug

I would (and am) waiting for Ryzen to hit the streets. Although the first releases being the high end of the line won't directly affect your choices, it may start a bit of a price war. Or at least a price thumb wrestling match.

If your 8150 isn't cutting it, the 8350 won't either. The only difference is clock speed and I believe they both can overclock to right around the same clock. A case fan with RGB lighting would offer about the same improvement, honestly

More RAM would possibly be more helpful. Or an SSD if you're not running one now. 

Quizzical

The problem is that the CPU you're looking at isn't much of an upgrade over the one you already have.  It's a generation newer, so you might see another 5% or 10% performance or some such.  But that doesn't justify paying $150.

If you're really set on keeping your current motherboard and upgrading only the CPU, then the thing to get is an FX-9590:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113347

That's basically a heavily overclocked FX-8350.  It's also a 220 W part, so you'll need some really potent cooling even to run it at stock speeds.  That might get you another 30% performance over what you have now, but at a cost of $200 for the CPU, plus likely a new CPU cooler--and not one of the cheap $30 variety.  Your motherboard could probably handle it, but I'd want a look at your power supply, too.

Really, though, you'd be better off waiting until you can afford to replace the motherboard as well as the CPU, and that will also require replacing memory (DDR4 is the modern standard) and probably a new OS license, by which point you're pretty much looking at replacing your computer outright.  If it's five years old, it's had a good life, and it's about time.

Also, your video card doesn't exist.

frostymug

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/57446-fx-8350-cpu-review-amds-vishera-arrives-5.html

There you go. Both processors in a clock for clock comparison at 4.0. Not worth it.

ianicus

you honestly wont see a huge performance increase form buying that CPU, its only very marginaly better than your current CPU. youd be better served tossing the cpu mobo combo you have and getting this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116991  -CPU-

with this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABVR4TX0350 -mobo-

or something like that anyway.

problem with AMD CPU's is many weak cores, versus intels fewer more powerful cores, and most games STILL do not take advantage of multithreading. At the end of the day I would not recommend upgrading to the fx 8350 on your current board, the performance gain you would see would almost be non existent.

Best decision thou would be to buy nothing now, wait the year, save some pennies, do a new kaby lake build with a 1070

tadams2tone

Welp, thanks guys, I'm glad I asked before getting it.  

To answer some of the responses I have 16gb ram and an SSD so those aren't an issue.  

I'll just wait and upgrade with the MB and CPU to intel.

Thanks again!

frostymug

Best of luck

ianicus

best decision

Quizzical

tadams2tone said:

Welp, thanks guys, I'm glad I asked before getting it.  

To answer some of the responses I have 16gb ram and an SSD so those aren't an issue.  

I'll just wait and upgrade with the MB and CPU to intel.

Thanks again!

Once you have the budget for an upgrade, come back and ask again.  You don't want to buy something that is a good deal today but makes no sense at all when you actually make the purchase.  AMD Ryzen is coming soon, and could shake up the market considerably.