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This How We Combine PVE and PVP players

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  • nerovergilnerovergil Member UncommonPosts: 680
    4507 said:
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    black777 said:
    Hey PVP players, get over it.

    PVP games are not really popular. PVE rules the MMO gender.  End of story.
    So yeah, PVE with PVP, looks good to me.  As long as you can flag.

    What are the most popular mmo games?
       Guild Wars 2
       Final Fantasy XIV          
       The Secret World          
       Elder Scrolls Online
    None of them are open PVP. Sorry but the market doesn't lie.
    And look at the future releases..

    From MMORPG.com.
    Absurd argument. In fact LoL has more players than all these games combined.
    LoL is in a completely different genre. MOBAs =/= MMOs
    Most instanced multiplayer games have as much or even less players than mobas per instance. So I do not see what is the great difference. Well, if you call only the open world games MMOs, you are right, but this is not the case. 
    MMOs require two things to be defined as such: meaningful progression and an open world. Neither is found in LoL.

    I agree that heavily instanced 'lobby' games like Vindictus should not be called MMORPGs, but instead MORPGs (multiplayer online role playing games).


    The Mobas have progression system. What do you mean by meaningful, as I do not find any meaning in the most so called MMOs, where you get level/gear to fight something, and then you get rank like in the Mobas. Well, there are very few games where the PvP and the PvE have some multiplayer long term point and limited effect on the world. None of these above actually.

    Progression doesn't matter in MOBAs. If an e-sports superstar starts from scratch in their favourite MOBA, they're still going to be an e-sports superstar and carry their entire team. 

    Not being able to do that (having at least some progression tied to your account) is MEANINGFUL progression.
    being a super star in game is meaningless. there is always new kid become new super star. meh
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