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ESO Vs GW2: Longevity?

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  • nerovergilnerovergil Member UncommonPosts: 680
    Well, lets break it down

    Graphics/artstyle - GW2 is going to last far longer here. Kinda similar to WoW, and WoW still looks good today. That includes vanilla WoW before graphics updates, many areas in vanilla still look great. ESO is going to look very...ugly...within a few years. However its not the engine that is the problem (SWTOR still looks pretty great on same engine with all its colors), its the drab character models, how the world looks and colors. "Realistic" looking graphics very rarely last long. Look at RIFT or Vanguard Saga of heroes (that one doesn't exist, yes, but screenshots do) and both look ugly today, despite being "newer" than say WoW which even vanilla still looks pretty.

    Content in terms of value - Honestly, I'll be going with ESO on this one. GW2 is too focused on the cash shop, with no optional subscription. With ESO, I pay 15 dollars, get cash shop money every month, ALL dlc for free (except Morrowind I guess), all content for just the price of a monthly sub and a bunch of other bonuses. GW2 however, its cash shop is VERY expensive, and there are items are you are forced to have (like immortal harvesting tools and many other things). And in GW2 you can't pay 15 dollars to unlock it all, you HAVE to pay tons of money to use their cash shop, they don't give you an option to pay a sub like ESO, which actually saves a ton of money. Also ESO produces a ton of content every year, GW2 doesn't.

    Content in terms of things to do - I'd say before ESO opened up the whole world, GW2 had this one...now its really half/half, but slightly in ESO favor. GW2 you don't have to worry about grinding, you can do anything and not feel nerfed or forced to do it. However, the downside is there is never a goal and the hearts they added in beta really ruined things. ESO, its more typical MMO grind for better items, and now that the whole world has opened, there is a lot to do like in GW2. Really with that change, it feels like GW2 in terms of content, but better. You get epic quests, vampire stories, dark brotherhood...none of that really exists in GW2.

    Content (more in terms of events) - ESO wins this by far. GW2 dynamic events are put on a timer by players (that ruined the game for me), which means Arenanet lied and falsely hyped that up, when they are timed events, not dynamic events...which also have no effect on the world or zone like Arenanet also said. ESO has amazing events, while not dynamic, are FAR better done and much higher quality. So I put ESO to win this category, just by the quality of said events. That and they never lied and said they were dynamic or world/zone changing events.

    So in the end, GW2 will look far nicer for longer, ESO has far better and much higher quality content and brings out a TON of content every year (like I said above) compared to GW2 very little content added every year.




    eso isn't realistic..

    the character face are generic and ugly...

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    edited February 2017
    Well, lets break it down

    Graphics/artstyle - GW2 is going to last far longer here. Kinda similar to WoW, and WoW still looks good today. That includes vanilla WoW before graphics updates, many areas in vanilla still look great. ESO is going to look very...ugly...within a few years. However its not the engine that is the problem (SWTOR still looks pretty great on same engine with all its colors), its the drab character models, how the world looks and colors. "Realistic" looking graphics very rarely last long. Look at RIFT or Vanguard Saga of heroes (that one doesn't exist, yes, but screenshots do) and both look ugly today, despite being "newer" than say WoW which even vanilla still looks pretty.

    Content in terms of value - Honestly, I'll be going with ESO on this one. GW2 is too focused on the cash shop, with no optional subscription. With ESO, I pay 15 dollars, get cash shop money every month, ALL dlc for free (except Morrowind I guess), all content for just the price of a monthly sub and a bunch of other bonuses. GW2 however, its cash shop is VERY expensive, and there are items are you are forced to have (like immortal harvesting tools and many other things). And in GW2 you can't pay 15 dollars to unlock it all, you HAVE to pay tons of money to use their cash shop, they don't give you an option to pay a sub like ESO, which actually saves a ton of money. Also ESO produces a ton of content every year, GW2 doesn't.

    Content in terms of things to do - I'd say before ESO opened up the whole world, GW2 had this one...now its really half/half, but slightly in ESO favor. GW2 you don't have to worry about grinding, you can do anything and not feel nerfed or forced to do it. However, the downside is there is never a goal and the hearts they added in beta really ruined things. ESO, its more typical MMO grind for better items, and now that the whole world has opened, there is a lot to do like in GW2. Really with that change, it feels like GW2 in terms of content, but better. You get epic quests, vampire stories, dark brotherhood...none of that really exists in GW2.

    Content (more in terms of events) - ESO wins this by far. GW2 dynamic events are put on a timer by players (that ruined the game for me), which means Arenanet lied and falsely hyped that up, when they are timed events, not dynamic events...which also have no effect on the world or zone like Arenanet also said. ESO has amazing events, while not dynamic, are FAR better done and much higher quality. So I put ESO to win this category, just by the quality of said events. That and they never lied and said they were dynamic or world/zone changing events.

    So in the end, GW2 will look far nicer for longer, ESO has far better and much higher quality content and brings out a TON of content every year (like I said above) compared to GW2 very little content added every year.
    Contrary to rumors do ESO not use the same engine as TOR. They licensed it for early testing but now uses their own engine (and I honestly think parts of TOR look rather ugly myself, the characters to be more exact).

    I don't really think GW2 has lower value, if you payed $15 a few months you would easily get access to all those things. The 3 infinite harvesters you need (for some reason, I guess you want to save bag space) is 1000 gems each, that would be $12;50 x 3 or about 750 in game gold. You could also spend about the same to unlock some extra bank slots, bag slots or character slots. Which would mean you would get all that for about 5 months of ESOs sub. But you honestly could farm it as well, 1500 gold is a lot but a dedicated farmer could get it in a few months

    You are right if we are talking short term gameplay and you want to buy it all from the start but if we are talking 6 or more months GW2 will be cheaper, far cheaper if don't bother about infinite harvesting tools (a bag space is just 400 gems, buy it and fill it with Ori harvesting tools, that much you can farm rather fast with ingame gold).

    I do agree that content wise is ESO leading right now, they have been faster adding new stuff after launch even if GW2 seems to bring up the pace lately with the new LS zones.

    As for DEs Vs timed events I am rather neutral, I like both. In fact I wouldn't mind seeing both games mixing that, I enjoy to sometimes be in a hurry.

    But as I said earlier, the real winner (if there will be one, for me they are rather close to eachother right now) will depend on future expansions. GW2s first expansion were far too small but on the other hand do they have far more interesting parts from GW1 they can add in, if they put in some effort and release a large Cantha or Elona expansion GW2 will easily be the far better game but if we just get more 4 zones expansions (no matter if those 4 zones are gigantic) ESO will win.

    It is way too early to call any shots yet. Besides, they are good games. Even if one or the other  win long term the other game still did a good job.
    (edited spelling error)
  • nerovergilnerovergil Member UncommonPosts: 680
    i bought both game.

    i like teso medieval theme...but i hate the character arts

    gw2 still better..because i love tab target
  • Kunai_VaxKunai_Vax Member RarePosts: 527
    GW2 just feels more immersive to me. I also love GW2 art style, its delicious! 

  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    I prefer GW2 over ESO. 
  • xyzercrimexyzercrime Member RarePosts: 878
    Well, PVE content and story wise, better bet on ESO than GW2, even though I'm a GW2 player myself.

    Two things that keep me coming back to GW2, art style and the combat system.



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