Notice how many people failed to read the article and react to the news that 'blizzard banned accounts for using keyboards' ? Amusing to see how many regulars of this forum obviously just read the title and way in with their opinions; details be dammed I know everything there is to know!
Perhaps they should have stated that the accounts banned were all Korean accounts in the title, making it seem as though it had something remotely connected to KBM options was disingenous.
Perhaps they should have stated that the accounts banned were all Korean accounts in the title, making it seem as though it had something remotely connected to KBM options was disingenous.
True but it do makes a question: If someone invent a better input device then mouse (or trackball)/Keyboard would using it be cheating? The platform does not really matter for that question.
I do have the feeling that neither mouse or console controller is the ultimate input device. Some kind of glove would be more intuitive, particularly for VR.
Does anyone need any more proof that controllers are rubbish as a user interface when compared to keyboard and mouse? They can't be used to type, draw and they play like they were designed for another species. Long past time they were ditched for a keyboard and mouse on consoles.
Does anyone need any more proof that controllers are rubbish as a user interface when compared to keyboard and mouse? They can't be used to type, draw and they play like they were designed for another species. Long past time they were ditched for a keyboard and mouse on consoles.
Sure , for FPS games without aim assist controllers have a disadvantage. But any sports game or race game, controller > keyboard+mouse. I guess it depends on the game.
Also typing? Voice chat > typing chat.
Sounds like you are just not used to using a controller. Maybe you forgot that you once had to get used to using the mouse and keyboard too.
Does anyone need any more proof that controllers are rubbish as a user interface when compared to keyboard and mouse? They can't be used to type, draw and they play like they were designed for another species. Long past time they were ditched for a keyboard and mouse on consoles.
Sure , for FPS games without aim assist controllers have a disadvantage. But any sports game or race game, controller > keyboard+mouse. I guess it depends on the game.
Also typing? Voice chat > typing chat.
Sounds like you are just not used to using a controller. Maybe you forgot that you once had to get used to using the mouse and keyboard too.
Whole reason i bought a console to begin with is so i could crash on the sofa and play some games while laying down. You cant really do that with a keyboard and mouse.
Whole reason i bought a console to begin with is so i could crash on the sofa and play some games while laying down. You cant really do that with a keyboard and mouse.
I recently bought a Steam Controller and can easily play Civilization 6 on my sofa with it thanks to the awesome track pad.
Does anyone need any more proof that controllers are rubbish as a user interface when compared to keyboard and mouse? They can't be used to type, draw and they play like they were designed for another species. Long past time they were ditched for a keyboard and mouse on consoles.
Sure , for FPS games without aim assist controllers have a disadvantage. But any sports game or race game, controller > keyboard+mouse. I guess it depends on the game.
Also typing? Voice chat > typing chat.
Sounds like you are just not used to using a controller. Maybe you forgot that you once had to get used to using the mouse and keyboard too.
Whole reason i bought a console to begin with is so i could crash on the sofa and play some games while laying down. You cant really do that with a keyboard and mouse.
You are preaching to the choir. So, not sure why you told me.
Oh, oh this is good. From the mouth of Blizzard themselves, mouse and keyboard are superior, lel. I await the mental gymnastics for the console kiddies to come up with now.
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Does anyone need any more proof that controllers are rubbish as a user interface when compared to keyboard and mouse? They can't be used to type, draw and they play like they were designed for another species. Long past time they were ditched for a keyboard and mouse on consoles.
Sure , for FPS games without aim assist controllers have a disadvantage. But any sports game or race game, controller > keyboard+mouse. I guess it depends on the game.
Also typing? Voice chat > typing chat.
Sounds like you are just not used to using a controller. Maybe you forgot that you once had to get used to using the mouse and keyboard too.
Whole reason i bought a console to begin with is so i could crash on the sofa and play some games while laying down. You cant really do that with a keyboard and mouse.
You are preaching to the choir. So, not sure why you told me.
That's kind of BS. If I Played Overwatch I would have been one of those banned as I prefer mouse/keyboard to controller and would be using one of those interfaces.
There is no banning for that reason. The bans referred to in the article heading are a totally different issue related to Korean internet cafes.
Ok the title seemed to insinuate that that was the reason for the bans. Duly noted!
Proving one should never be in such a hurry to respond or bash without actually reading the OP.
Even better, read the reponses of other posters, frequently they offer additional insight.
Not saying you don't on a regular basis, but its clear many folks on this site only respond to thread titles and its annoying to me.
I caught the use of "&" in the title meaning there were two separate topics, they would have used something like "leads to 23K bans" if they wanted to join them.
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Does anyone need any more proof that controllers are rubbish as a user interface when compared to keyboard and mouse? They can't be used to type, draw and they play like they were designed for another species. Long past time they were ditched for a keyboard and mouse on consoles.
Fighting and racing games are way better on controllers. You know, things where you don't need precision.
Good luck having analog input on a keyboard/mouse so to speak.
Hell even RPGs play kind of better on controller with a little aim assist.
Competitive PvP tho ... you need kb/m for that shit so that you can blame the matchmaker and "elo hell" for your loss of course.
Yeah I, nor anyone with any sense, is paying $150 for that monstrosity when you can get a Keymander for around $60 like I did or get a better version like Xim for a little more and use your own K/M.
On-topic: So it's official now. About time. I do agree that native K/M support should be built in to all consoles. Get on it Blizzard! You have the power to make it happen!
So purchase one of these converters is within easy reach of anyone who wishes to do so, I have no issue with them then and I feel Blizzard is wrong in their stance in this.
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They need to be separated. Keyboard-mouse vs controller is like Godzilla vs kindergartners. It's cruel. If the console kids really wanted better controls, they would have upgraded to kbm already. They like consoles obviously, leave them alone.
i almost agreed with you until you said console kids. Grow up.
i play Overwatch on both PC and PS4. I play more on PS4 and only play it on PC with my friends. I play on PC with a controller and kill more than i do with the mouse. You want to know how? very simple: i dont have good precision using hit-scan weapons so i play with projectile based characters like Junk rat and Pharah. I dont need precision with those characters so the controller works perfectly fine for me. When i want to use hit-scan characters i go to ps4 and be on equal footing with everyone else.
IIRC mouse usage on PS4 is for internet browsing. Allowing a PvP game to use it is just a terrible idea.
yea i was being a dick with that comment. i grew up with consoles so they'll always have a special place in my heart
People are going to cheat. Doesn't matter as much about the mouse or controller. If someone can "win" without actually having to work to win then that is what some people will pick. I much prefer using a mouse over a stick for aiming. I will not go look for a way to do that on a console game that does not support using a mouse. I consider it cheating. Some people feel good not being fair. Argue this point or that and it still boils down to Blizzard had to take a stand and they did. People who have to use something to get what they want don't really care. Winning is everything and fair is just a sign to pass by.
People are going to cheat. Doesn't matter as much about the mouse or controller. If someone can "win" without actually having to work to win then that is what some people will pick. I much prefer using a mouse over a stick for aiming. I will not go look for a way to do that on a console game that does not support using a mouse. I consider it cheating. Some people feel good not being fair. Argue this point or that and it still boils down to Blizzard had to take a stand and they did. People who have to use something to get what they want don't really care. Winning is everything and fair is just a sign to pass by.
Well I beg to differ. Using a keyboard/mouse on a console is not in any way cheating, just another way to play a game especially for those of us who have a hard time using the controller.
I think all competitive games are full of cheaters.They can only continue to ban them every chance they get.
I agree, but in this case the bans are related to TOS violations (account sharing) by Korean internet cafes, not in-game cheating.
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Ok.. so.. I don't see the problem, its not like everyone can't just go get a kb/mouse, and playing these games with controlls suck. FPS games are meant to be played with a kb/mouse. IMO its utterly stupid that games like overwatch don't have native keyboard/mouse controls even on a ps4.
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A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Does anyone need any more proof that controllers are rubbish as a user interface when compared to keyboard and mouse? They can't be used to type, draw and they play like they were designed for another species. Long past time they were ditched for a keyboard and mouse on consoles.
Sure , for FPS games without aim assist controllers have a disadvantage. But any sports game or race game, controller > keyboard+mouse. I guess it depends on the game.
Also typing? Voice chat > typing chat.
Sounds like you are just not used to using a controller. Maybe you forgot that you once had to get used to using the mouse and keyboard too.
Whole reason i bought a console to begin with is so i could crash on the sofa and play some games while laying down. You cant really do that with a keyboard and mouse.
When you say "laying down" I assume you mean propped up on a sofa? That is not a good way to play a game, be it with laptop, console etc. You tend to lean forward too far at the neck and spine. Yes you can slouch in a chair, but not as much.
I really do not see a controller being better for driving games, try a gaming driving wheel, only thing better than KB and mouse for driving. Maybe sports games are better on a controller, I don't play any.
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I do have the feeling that neither mouse or console controller is the ultimate input device. Some kind of glove would be more intuitive, particularly for VR.
Just a thought.
Also typing? Voice chat > typing chat.
Sounds like you are just not used to using a controller. Maybe you forgot that you once had to get used to using the mouse and keyboard too.
Great controller.
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Even better, read the reponses of other posters, frequently they offer additional insight.
Not saying you don't on a regular basis, but its clear many folks on this site only respond to thread titles and its annoying to me.
I caught the use of "&" in the title meaning there were two separate topics, they would have used something like "leads to 23K bans" if they wanted to join them.
Reading the OP quickly clarified it.
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Good luck having analog input on a keyboard/mouse so to speak.
Hell even RPGs play kind of better on controller with a little aim assist.
Competitive PvP tho ... you need kb/m for that shit
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"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
Being a pessimist is a win-win pattern of thinking. If you're a pessimist (I'll admit that I am!) you're either:
A. Proven right (if something bad happens)
or
B. Pleasantly surprised (if something good happens)
Either way, you can't lose! Try it out sometime!
When you say "laying down" I assume you mean propped up on a sofa? That is not a good way to play a game, be it with laptop, console etc. You tend to lean forward too far at the neck and spine. Yes you can slouch in a chair, but not as much.
https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/your-bad-gaming-posture-is-starting-to-show
I really do not see a controller being better for driving games, try a gaming driving wheel, only thing better than KB and mouse for driving. Maybe sports games are better on a controller, I don't play any.