I played AA for nearly a year, I had to struggle to force myself to play out a month in BDO.
It has the worst aspect of AA and found new things to get wrong.
Korean P2W RNG is stupid, this is not an American vs Asian taste, preference, blah, blah, blah. It is stupid and even worse in BDO than AA. I will never again play a Korean RNG pricing model game again. (Fortunately my frustration lead me to quit not pay, for far too many the frustration leads people to spend - now that is a great business model piss people off to make them spend money rather than pleasing them into it.)
The crafting is interesting and goodish, and probably could even be great with some work. However, the market is horrible and ruins any enjoyment of crafting. Of all the good and bad ways I could have previously thought of to implement an MMO game market, I would never have thought of one so bad as BDO. Bracketed pricing that destroys value and incentive - it is like they chose communism over capitalism - supply and demand be damned.
Sandbox has become so mis- and overused - trying to call this a sandbox is ludicrous. Sandbox is not just about a seamless map. It is about overall flexibility in game play. BDO game play is restrictive and rigid - character creation, class leveling, skill selection and gear selection, ... all are the opposite of a sandbox design.
I think questioning the veracity of the rating is valid. If it is valid, it may explain why the more hyped and "popular" a game is in recent year the more disappointing the experience is for me.
Now I'm not sure what "lie" the guy you replied to here drove him to ask for a refund, maybe like you he expected a certain game play experience and it didn't deliver.
Except the game experience during beta in BDO was exactly the same that after release. In AA, it was not. And we both know what betas are nowadays, right?
True. It was actually at "Alpha" launch I joined and due to controlled population ($150 entry fee) it was a very pleasant experience.
But good land (near coastsl was in short supply even then, and the players clearly could see the pending problems once the floodgates opened.
When the game went into beta, the land rush issue immediately became very real and I found it far less fun.
I hung back on the alpha server hanging on to hopes of rumors they might keep the alpha server up only for those who paid the premium.
When that didnt happen and the launch became a worse nightmare than most imagined I walked away from it.
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I played AA for nearly a year, I had to struggle to force myself to play out a month in BDO.
It has the worst aspect of AA and found new things to get wrong.
Korean P2W RNG is stupid, this is not an American vs Asian taste, preference, blah, blah, blah. It is stupid
Except it does seem to be a Western vs Asian taste preference. You not liking it is fine but apparently people do. Also I don't really see the "p2w rng" part. If anything, and if someone wanted to "pay to win" they would buy outfits, put them on the market and over a month or two (probably two) be able to buy items that are already enchanted to the higher levels.
No "rng" involved for the buyer.
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About the 10 LOL´s on my OP. I feel sorry for you people To like and even defend such a bad trashy game does not put you guys into shining light position Did you even try another game but Black Desert ever ? I cant explain how people can fight and defend this game. Maybe some are employee´s of the game company... i dont know..
About the 10 LOL´s on my OP. I feel sorry for you people To like and even defend such a bad trashy game does not put you guys into shining light position Did you even try another game but Black Desert ever ? I cant explain how people can fight and defend this game. Maybe some are employee´s of the game company... i dont know..
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Like Suzie I don't care much for the combat, but some love it. IMHO the world design is second to none, I spent many hours just exploring and taking in the sights and very much enjoyed that aspect.
Different strokes for different folks.
That seems very difficult for you to contemplate therefor my lol
To like and even defend such a bad trashy game does not put you guys into shining light position Did you even try another game but Black Desert ever ? ... i dont know..
Well, that would require you to make an effort wouldn't it? I mean, if people are playing the game and enjoying it, even though it has flaws (is there a game that doesn't?) then obviously there's something to like.
Maybe it's up to you to stretch yourself a little and put yourself in other people's shoes.
Sadly, many people can't do that.
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About the 10 LOL´s on my OP. I feel sorry for you people To like and even defend such a bad trashy game does not put you guys into shining light position Did you even try another game but Black Desert ever ? I cant explain how people can fight and defend this game. Maybe some are employee´s of the game company... i dont know..
Well earned LOLs, good sir.
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About the 10 LOL´s on my OP. I feel sorry for you people To like and even defend such a bad trashy game does not put you guys into shining light position Did you even try another game but Black Desert ever ? I cant explain how people can fight and defend this game. Maybe some are employee´s of the game company... i dont know..
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If you don't like something then just call it fake news. Seems to be working nowadays along with alternative facts.
Indeed, it seems to be a prevalent trend these days, fake news is people inventing 'facts' about something they don't like.
Someone was talking about how what's done on the internet is making it's way into real life. It's one thing to do or say something on the internet but another to do it in real life. The lines get blurred as people are raised with more time spent on the net.
It used to be just TV and movies with life imitating art. Our brains constantly seek information to use as reference for situations encountered. They become a script for what to do or how to think in certain situations.
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At least you have it a try. I prefer rants by people who actually tried, than the rants by people who haven't.
Back Desert is not really a game that you can grasp in 1 day of playing so I don't really consider him "Giving it a try"
Sounds to me like his computer couldn't handle the game which turned all other experiences to mush.
xeon 1230v3 + gtx1050+16gb + 240gb SSD+ Z97Pro cant handle this game ?
seriously ?? This games GFX engine is trash not my system.... And even if the game play is smooth the game looks like Italian Salad...
Sorry to break it to you but, the 1050 is by no means a high end graphics card. The 1060 or 1070 are required for anything above medium resolution. So it most certainly is your system in this case.
So does this mean that my GTX 970m wont be able to run this game smoothly? Thinking about getting it but after reading this I am concerned about performance.
I am just mad about myself that i wasnt here on the forums before i downloaded 48GB.... 4 hours download and i expected an awesome game..... what i got was not even worth 5 mins of download.
Even Drakensang online is better..
Have you considered leaving a game to download overnight or while you're at work or school? That makes the download time basically irrelevant so long as it stays inside of several hours. If you're sitting there watching the game download, you're doing it wrong.
I voted awesome on this comment because all the other options already had votes.
At least you have it a try. I prefer rants by people who actually tried, than the rants by people who haven't.
Back Desert is not really a game that you can grasp in 1 day of playing so I don't really consider him "Giving it a try"
Sounds to me like his computer couldn't handle the game which turned all other experiences to mush.
xeon 1230v3 + gtx1050+16gb + 240gb SSD+ Z97Pro cant handle this game ?
seriously ?? This games GFX engine is trash not my system.... And even if the game play is smooth the game looks like Italian Salad...
Sorry to break it to you but, the 1050 is by no means a high end graphics card. The 1060 or 1070 are required for anything above medium resolution. So it most certainly is your system in this case.
So does this mean that my GTX 970m wont be able to run this game smoothly? Thinking about getting it but after reading this I am concerned about performance.
I'm one of them that didn't play the game. I learned to watch Youtubes before I bother anymore because of the over marketed crap that people seem to get sucked into.
Besides Asian games are crap. And what's with the creepy Asian black thing I see following players around anyway ?
I'm one of them that didn't play the game. I learned to watch Youtubes before I bother anymore because of the over marketed crap that people seem to get sucked into.
Besides Asian games are crap. And what's with the creepy Asian black thing I see following players around anyway ?
Have you played any Asian game? What about Final Fantasy 11 or Final Fantasy 14 . Asia has many countries in it . Typical uneducated response blanketing and condemning all Asian games without even knowing what you're talking about. There are Korean ,Japanese and Chinese games that people play and enjoy for you to paint all of them as crap only shows your ignorance.
I'm one of them that didn't play the game. I learned to watch Youtubes before I bother anymore because of the over marketed crap that people seem to get sucked into.
Besides Asian games are crap. And what's with the creepy Asian black thing I see following players around anyway ?
Have you played any Asian game? What about Final Fantasy 11 or Final Fantasy 14 . Asia has many countries in it . Typical uneducated response blanketing and condemning all Asian games without even knowing what you're talking about. There are Korean ,Japanese and Chinese games that people play and enjoy for you to paint all of them as crap only shows your ignorance.
Well Asian games are similar in many ways, no matter if they are Korean, Japanese or Chinese, you know when it's a Asian game when you see it or play it. It's the same way when we say western games are also follow similar pattern, dosent matter if It's a American game or a UK game or a German game, you know if it's made in the west when you see it or play it.
Did you try to do any of the trading between areas. Have you managed to hire any workers and started doing any of the crafting. Have you tried to breed horses. Have you started .... you know what I won't bother.
Sorry but i don't play mmo's to do any of this stuff.
I truly wonder if this game's graphics were removed for say EQ1 graphics,if people would feel the same about the game.I sadly jumped in on a whim mainly because of the graphics,if i had of known how much of this game was so badly designed i would have never purchased on a whim. BTW you don't really hire workers,almost nothing in this game is visually shown,it is all just an interface similar to Eve. Now if you could hire workers and visually see them on my plantation or farm or house then i would love that,but you can't,you just pretend they are there ..sigh.
Even still if they fixed every single aspect of the game the way it looks proper,the combat would still completely ruin it because it looks that ridiculous to me.I cannot understand how ANYONE can accept the Archer design,there is not one archer in the entire world who would look like that in combat. Plus the fact there is no ammo slot "lame" unlimited ammo "lame" yeah they completely ruined combat to a D minus grade.
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Wizardry said: BTW you don't really hire workers,almost nothing in this game is visually shown,it is all just an interface similar to Eve. Now if you could hire workers and visually see them on my plantation or farm or house then i would love that,but you can't,you just pretend they are there ..sigh.
I can see all my workers and my guildies' running back and forth and digging away. Did you look for them?
The UI takes like 10 minutes max to get used to for people who are used to the now standard MMORPG UIs.
In reality, the OP is pissed because he needs 4 hours to download 48gb
I would like to protest that it is not standard for MMORPGs to hard-code in that function 3 must be a combination of the keys for functions 1 and 2 together, even though the keys for functions 1 and 2 can be changed. Black Desert does that, and it made it impossible for me to get a control configuration that I liked. I've never seen another game make that mistake.
Not entirely sure what you're saying or wanting here.
Let's suppose that by default, skill 1 uses key A, skill 2 uses key B, and skill 3 uses keys A+B. The three skills can be remapped to other keys, but not independently. If I change skill 1 to use key C rather than A, then that will change skill 3 to use C+B rather than A+B. I can't change skill 3 to use some other key or combination of keys. It's hard-coded in that skill 3 must be the key for skill 1 plus the key for skill 2 together. That's really awkward to deal with, and I'd much prefer to be able to make skill 3 into some completely independent key that has nothing to do with skills 1 and 2.
I use a controller to play most games, not a keyboard and mouse. That does mean I need to use combinations of buttons for a lot of things. But I need to be able to pick the combinations of buttons in a sensible way. The main things that get used a lot and need easy access get a button by themselves without a combination. Less commonly used things or things where a slight delay is acceptable (e.g., navigating menus or talking to NPCs) get a combination of one or occasionally two of the top bumpers plus one of the main buttons, or perhaps one of the harder to reach buttons. The top bumper(s) that are used for such combination skills aren't assigned to anything on their own. That works great for handling skills in games with relatively few skills, and is at least manageable in games with a lot of skills.
Black Desert says I can't do that. They decided to hard-code in that some important skills must be a combination of two buttons that are each used on their own for other important skills. I haven't a clue why they did that, but it was a terrible decision that offers no benefit whatsoever. I've never seen any other game make that mistake, at least without also making the much more severe blunder of making it impossible to modify your control scheme. It's the single largest reason why I quit Black Desert. The game seemed promising, but it was too awkward to control, so I gave up.
Well it isn't entirely surprising though, this has always been a thing with games with combos, I don't know of a single one you can remap the way you're wanting. I mean you're still going to have to hit the punch button no matter where you moved it to perform a Shoryuken.
This isn't a case of, press A then B to use skill 3. This is a case of, if you press A and B at exactly the same time, you use skill 3. Press one a little before the other and you get skill 1 or 2 instead, possibly followed by some other skill.
...welcome to games with combos. This is a skill thing, what you described is failing at doing it right. I honestly don't mean this as a slight. That is just how these types of combat systems are and always have been. Remapping isn't going to fix your problem.
This is far from being a SKILL THING!! On a gamepad it makes sense, but on keyboard mouse it's fucking stupid. This has forced players to use 1 button macros to record combos sequences.
ROFLMAO just summing up all fanbois and haters in this thread leads to a conclusion that game couldn't even remotely deserve it's 8+ or whatever it got unless one side lies. All comments combined here actually paint much more realistic picture of this title.
I truly wonder if this game's graphics were removed for say EQ1 graphics,if people would feel the same about the game.I sadly jumped in on a whim mainly because of the graphics,if i had of known how much of this game was so badly designed i would have never purchased on a whim. BTW you don't really hire workers,almost nothing in this game is visually shown,it is all just an interface similar to Eve. Now if you could hire workers and visually see them on my plantation or farm or house then i would love that,but you can't,you just pretend they are there ..sigh.
Even still if they fixed every single aspect of the game the way it looks proper,the combat would still completely ruin it because it looks that ridiculous to me.I cannot understand how ANYONE can accept the Archer design,there is not one archer in the entire world who would look like that in combat. Plus the fact there is no ammo slot "lame" unlimited ammo "lame" yeah they completely ruined combat to a D minus grade.
I really do not understand why folks like you keep making arguments like this.
You are wanting realism in a Fantasy video game. Why even stop there with the Archer, what about the casters as long as they maintain their combos they will never really exhaust their mana pool, this pretty much any class.
How about the Tamer running around with a GIANT Wolf that she can eventually use a mount, that's pretty ridiculous? Seriously, who does that right?
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It has the worst aspect of AA and found new things to get wrong.
Korean P2W RNG is stupid, this is not an American vs Asian taste, preference, blah, blah, blah. It is stupid and even worse in BDO than AA. I will never again play a Korean RNG pricing model game again. (Fortunately my frustration lead me to quit not pay, for far too many the frustration leads people to spend - now that is a great business model piss people off to make them spend money rather than pleasing them into it.)
The crafting is interesting and goodish, and probably could even be great with some work. However, the market is horrible and ruins any enjoyment of crafting. Of all the good and bad ways I could have previously thought of to implement an MMO game market, I would never have thought of one so bad as BDO. Bracketed pricing that destroys value and incentive - it is like they chose communism over capitalism - supply and demand be damned.
Sandbox has become so mis- and overused - trying to call this a sandbox is ludicrous. Sandbox is not just about a seamless map. It is about overall flexibility in game play. BDO game play is restrictive and rigid - character creation, class leveling, skill selection and gear selection, ... all are the opposite of a sandbox design.
I think questioning the veracity of the rating is valid. If it is valid, it may explain why the more hyped and "popular" a game is in recent year the more disappointing the experience is for me.
But good land (near coastsl was in short supply even then, and the players clearly could see the pending problems once the floodgates opened.
When the game went into beta, the land rush issue immediately became very real and I found it far less fun.
I hung back on the alpha server hanging on to hopes of rumors they might keep the alpha server up only for those who paid the premium.
When that didnt happen and the launch became a worse nightmare than most imagined I walked away from it.
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No "rng" involved for the buyer.
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To like and even defend such a bad trashy game does not put you guys into shining light position
Did you even try another game but Black Desert ever ?
I cant explain how people can fight and defend this game.
Maybe some are employee´s of the game company...
i dont know..
Like Suzie I don't care much for the combat, but some love it. IMHO the world design is second to none, I spent many hours just exploring and taking in the sights and very much enjoyed that aspect.
Different strokes for different folks.
That seems very difficult for you to contemplate therefor my lol
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Maybe it's up to you to stretch yourself a little and put yourself in other people's shoes.
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Here, have another one. :pleased:
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I voted awesome on this comment because all the other options already had votes.
you'll be just fine with the 970m
Besides Asian games are crap. And what's with the creepy Asian black thing I see following players around anyway ?
Well Asian games are similar in many ways, no matter if they are Korean, Japanese or Chinese, you know when it's a Asian game when you see it or play it.
It's the same way when we say western games are also follow similar pattern, dosent matter if It's a American game or a UK game or a German game, you know if it's made in the west when you see it or play it.
BTW you don't really hire workers,almost nothing in this game is visually shown,it is all just an interface similar to Eve.
Now if you could hire workers and visually see them on my plantation or farm or house then i would love that,but you can't,you just pretend they are there ..sigh.
Even still if they fixed every single aspect of the game the way it looks proper,the combat would still completely ruin it because it looks that ridiculous to me.I cannot understand how ANYONE can accept the Archer design,there is not one archer in the entire world who would look like that in combat.
Plus the fact there is no ammo slot "lame" unlimited ammo "lame" yeah they completely ruined combat to a D minus grade.
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[Space] + [LMB] > [W] + [RMB] > [W] > [W] > [Space] + [LMB]
You are wanting realism in a Fantasy video game. Why even stop there with the Archer, what about the casters as long as they maintain their combos they will never really exhaust their mana pool, this pretty much any class.
How about the Tamer running around with a GIANT Wolf that she can eventually use a mount, that's pretty ridiculous? Seriously, who does that right?