Prove it or stop posting. It's a ridiculous claim.
I wonder, I mean we are both grown ups. How would one prove such claim ? I mean what you as grown up suggest ? ( I understand that some kids that frequent this site have no concept of real world could bring up such suggestion )
Should I somehow subpoena mmorpg.com financial data to find bill for this article ? Or maybe i should somehow put you under oath to talk candidly about the deal for this article ?
What we have here is my word against yours. Yet your is less valuable because you stand to gain monetary compensation for the article, where I have nothing to gain or lose.
But what I can do is tell you on what I base my claim.
1.Fact that mmorpg.com is increasingly posting very positive reviews for money grabbing scheme games (if they can even be called games and not casinos)
2.Fact that over 40 reviews have been published up to date for MEA, and none of them represents it in very positive light.
I just connect the dots : A site known for payed reviews posts very positive review for generally badly reviewed game.
Please. How is asking you to provide proof that this is a paid review being "childish"? In any court in the world, the burden of proof rests on the accuser, not the accused.
In court, yes. In public not.
This site is tumbling down ( same as mmorpg genre is ) for years , gripping to any opportunity to stay afloat. Taking every morsel thrown its way.
From virus infested banners , fake giveaways , links to questionable re-sellers , writing about anything related to almost anything - and sponsored or "favorable" reviews.
In any case this warranted suspicion is something this sad site has brought upon itself.
anyone that says auto crouch, xray vision, bullet sponge enemys, brainless AI and god awful walking that feels so clunky you have to puke everytime you try to walk inside buildings, is good gameplay.... i think noone can help you anymore, go to android/apple store and keep playing smartphone games
anyone that says auto crouch, xray vision, bullet sponge enemys, brainless AI and god awful walking that feels so clunky you have to puke everytime you try to walk inside buildings, is good gameplay.... i think noone can help you anymore, go to android/apple store and keep playing smartphone games
That sort of personal attack is unnecessary, mean spirited and unfair. Present a critical assessment of your game play thoughts and leave it at that. Spewing rhetoric like that at someone who feels differently about the game than you do is cheap and easy.
I Wanted Mass Effect 4 But Got Something Better - Mass Effect: Andromeda Review - MMORPG.com
... Do you love Mass Effect series as much as I do?
..
If so, this review is tailor-made for you. If it cannot be said about you, the review you will find below comes from someone who is somewhat biased towards the series.
Did none of you bother to read the disclaimer ?
It was clearly stated that it's a review from a serious fan, intended for other serious fans. Or did you not understand that ?
Does any part of that intro suggest that there's a 3/10 score up ahead ?
If you genuinely expected a harsh dissection of the game after that intro, you only have yourself to blame !
Prove it or stop posting. It's a ridiculous claim.
I wonder, I mean we are both grown ups. How would one prove such claim ? I mean what you as grown up suggest ? ( I understand that some kids that frequent this site have no concept of real world could bring up such suggestion )
Should I somehow subpoena mmorpg.com financial data to find bill for this article ? Or maybe i should somehow put you under oath to talk candidly about the deal for this article ?
What we have here is my word against yours. Yet your is less valuable because you stand to gain monetary compensation for the article, where I have nothing to gain or lose.
But what I can do is tell you on what I base my claim.
1.Fact that mmorpg.com is increasingly posting very positive reviews for money grabbing scheme games (if they can even be called games and not casinos)
2.Fact that over 40 reviews have been published up to date for MEA, and none of them represents it in very positive light.
I just connect the dots : A site known for payed reviews posts very positive review for generally badly reviewed game.
Please. How is asking you to provide proof that this is a paid review being "childish"? In any court in the world, the burden of proof rests on the accuser, not the accused.
In court, yes. In public not.
This site is tumbling down ( same as mmorpg genre is ) for years , gripping to any opportunity to stay afloat. Taking every morsel thrown its way.
From virus infested banners , fake giveaways , links to questionable re-sellers , writing about anything related to almost anything - and sponsored or "favorable" reviews.
In any case this warranted suspicion is something this sad site has brought upon itself.
I wish this was a paid review. If that were the case, maybe we wouldn't be struggling to keep the lights on so folks like you can come here and tell us how bad we are at our jobs.
Don't let the door hit you.
Try to be excellent to everyone you meet. You never know what someone else has seen or endured.
anyone that says auto crouch, xray vision, bullet sponge enemys, brainless AI and god awful walking that feels so clunky you have to puke everytime you try to walk inside buildings, is good gameplay.... i think noone can help you anymore, go to android/apple store and keep playing smartphone games
Look at this guy with his "unique" opinions which I haven't seen repeated 400 times on r/games. Clearly the people who find some enjoyment in playing Andromeda are the sheep right?
I agree with that. Zelda too. But MEA is still fun, especially if you liked DAI or are an ME fan in general. It's rough around the edge, but I tend to lump BioWare in with Bethesda - companies who make great, deep, expansive RPGs that always need a lot more QA time.
Try to be excellent to everyone you meet. You never know what someone else has seen or endured.
I wish this was a paid review. If that were the case, maybe we wouldn't be struggling to keep the lights on so folks like you can come here and tell us how bad we are at our jobs.
Don't let the door hit you.
Don't even lie. We all know Bioware makes a habit of hitting up the niche MMO website community to buy their reviews.
I agree with that. Zelda too. But MEA is still fun, especially if you liked DAI or are an ME fan in general. It's rough around the edge, but I tend to lump BioWare in with Bethesda - companies who make great, deep, expansive RPGs that always need a lot more QA time.
In Skyrim, lack of QA meant if you were hit by a giant you went flying like a ragdoll. A couple of quests wouldn't unlock, or some important NPCs were killed.
In MEA, lack of QA means peoples heads go all crazy, saves put you in awkward places (like someone mentioned being stuck behind a plant after a 10 minute convo). Lack of QA here just add's to the overall issues people are listing.
Prove it or stop posting. It's a ridiculous claim.
I wonder, I mean we are both grown ups. How would one prove such claim ? I mean what you as grown up suggest ? ( I understand that some kids that frequent this site have no concept of real world could bring up such suggestion )
Should I somehow subpoena mmorpg.com financial data to find bill for this article ? Or maybe i should somehow put you under oath to talk candidly about the deal for this article ?
What we have here is my word against yours. Yet your is less valuable because you stand to gain monetary compensation for the article, where I have nothing to gain or lose.
But what I can do is tell you on what I base my claim.
1.Fact that mmorpg.com is increasingly posting very positive reviews for money grabbing scheme games (if they can even be called games and not casinos)
2.Fact that over 40 reviews have been published up to date for MEA, and none of them represents it in very positive light.
I just connect the dots : A site known for payed reviews posts very positive review for generally badly reviewed game.
Please. How is asking you to provide proof that this is a paid review being "childish"? In any court in the world, the burden of proof rests on the accuser, not the accused.
In court, yes. In public not.
This site is tumbling down ( same as mmorpg genre is ) for years , gripping to any opportunity to stay afloat. Taking every morsel thrown its way.
From virus infested banners , fake giveaways , links to questionable re-sellers , writing about anything related to almost anything - and sponsored or "favorable" reviews.
In any case this warranted suspicion is something this sad site has brought upon itself.
You know, it's quite easy to get enough information to make a compelling argument. Look, I just took 15 minutes to compare the last 10 reviews that I was able to get good PC reviews (non-beta) from both MMORPG and Metacritic and the average deviation is 4%. So, without colluding, it's pretty fucking difficult to come within a 4% range of 10s or hundreds of other critics. Also, it should be noted that the range is much tighter than, say, user reviews which are pretty much guaranteed to be 0-10 on any given game. There's hardly a conspiracy here. As @SBFord put it, though, if someone has proof, then blow the top off this pop-stand!! Please, PLEASE, come up with some sort of valid argument! Honestly, I'd love to see some intelligent argument made other than idle speculation that makes you sound like a tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy-buff.
I think this is a case of people needing to really read what the reviewer says and not how they say it.
The reviewer is clearly a fan and is very forgiving of certain things that might bother others. However, the reviewer is very clear on what the issues are. Weird animations, User interface issues among other things.
So strip away his "like" for the game/IP and hone in on the things one thinks are important. Same as if he panned the game, you would look for the details and note whether those things are important to you.
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I can't even imagine. Regardless whether it's the game for you or not, it is still the result of someone's hard work and passion as well as undoubtedly something that they are proud of. It's easy to be an armchair critic when it's not your work on the chopping block.
I will further extrapolate that it is the same for anyone daring to step out and write a review. It seems that the way of approaching differences of opinion is to bully and shame rather than rationally discuss the issue through mutual experiences. It's a disturbing and sad trend.
I think this is a case of people needing to really read what the reviewer says and not how they say it.
The reviewer is clearly a fan and is very forgiving of certain things that might bother others. However, the reviewer is very clear on what the issues are. Weird animations, User interface issues among other things.
So strip away his "like" for the game/IP and hone in on the things one thinks are important. Same as if he panned the game, you would look for the details and note whether those things are important to you.
I don't disagree but the review could have been presented better. It does come off hostile to those with arguments, particularly about animation.
I think that's just how one might take it. I didn't see it as being hostile per se but frustrated with what others claim to be negatives. You are probably referring to the "witch hunts" bit. That was a bit surprising and if I was to review something I wouldn't have added that as it attacks reviews rather than putting them in a different light.
Like Skyrim? Need more content? Try my Skyrim mod "Godfred's Tomb."
I think this is a case of people needing to really read what the reviewer says and not how they say it.
The reviewer is clearly a fan and is very forgiving of certain things that might bother others. However, the reviewer is very clear on what the issues are. Weird animations, User interface issues among other things.
So strip away his "like" for the game/IP and hone in on the things one thinks are important. Same as if he panned the game, you would look for the details and note whether those things are important to you.
I don't disagree but the review could have been presented better. It does come off hostile to those with arguments, particularly about animation.
Are you referring to the "petty witch hunt" comment when you say it comes off as hostile? Did you bother to follow the hyperlink to Kotaku? I thought "witch hunt" was pretty damn restrained considering what she linked.
I thought Kotaku worded it better when they said :
"Social media gives legions of idiots the right to speak when they once only spoke at a bar after a glass of wine, without harming the community ... but now they have the same right to speak as a Nobel Prize winner. It's the invasion of the idiots”
― Umberto Eco
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?” ― CD PROJEKT RED
Some don't and are deeply hurt, even discouraged. Some give a literal no fucks. Others just outright ignore it and do what they want. A lot of developers start off well then end up just doing it because it is a job to put food on the table. I'm sure somewhere in Bioware there is a developer that is bothered by the reviews and hate. Though willing to wager most just don't care.
Interestingly enough, in the months prior to MEA's release (well, tomorrow anyway), BioWare devs went on record talking about how truly devastated they were after the backlash at ME3's ending. The interview stated that many of the team sunk into deep depression as a result.
This is always how I have felt about reviews and when voicing my opinion outside of "official" pieces as well. No matter what, people who make these games are doing something they love -- yes, and to make money -- and work hard at their jobs. Criticism is of course warranted without the vitriolic hatred and personal insults that many of them have to endure.
Hate isn't the only thing that's fashionable, sweetie. But kudos to you for being able to overlook something superficial like the worst animation work done in a AAA video game for the last 5 years. You're really an enlightened treasure among gamers. Good for you.
Some don't and are deeply hurt, even discouraged. Some give a literal no fucks. Others just outright ignore it and do what they want. A lot of developers start off well then end up just doing it because it is a job to put food on the table.
I'm sure somewhere in Bioware there is a developer that is bothered by the reviews and hate. Though willing to wager most just don't care.
I sincerely doubt that.
As a programmer myself, I'm always proud of my work, and it gives me immense validation to see people using (and appreciating) what I create.
I've met VERY few programmers in my life that "give no fucks" about what people thought of their work. But lucky for me, I'm not in the game development industry...
Why the drama? A reviewer liked something, you didn't. Big deal. Try to fix and point out flaws in things, not in persons. You won't get far by trying to fix strangers.
But that works both ways ofc. Especially now that the topic in the comment section seems to have turned into talking about threats vs/harassment of developers and reviews
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In court, yes. In public not.
This site is tumbling down ( same as mmorpg genre is ) for years , gripping to any opportunity to stay afloat. Taking every morsel thrown its way.
From virus infested banners , fake giveaways , links to questionable re-sellers , writing about anything related to almost anything - and sponsored or "favorable" reviews.
In any case this warranted suspicion is something this sad site has brought upon itself.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
It was clearly stated that it's a review from a serious fan, intended for other serious fans. Or did you not understand that ?
Does any part of that intro suggest that there's a 3/10 score up ahead ?
If you genuinely expected a harsh dissection of the game after that intro, you only have yourself to blame !
Don't let the door hit you.
Try to be excellent to everyone you meet. You never know what someone else has seen or endured.
My Review Manifesto
Follow me on Twitter if you dare.
Try to be excellent to everyone you meet. You never know what someone else has seen or endured.
My Review Manifesto
Follow me on Twitter if you dare.
In Skyrim, lack of QA meant if you were hit by a giant you went flying like a ragdoll. A couple of quests wouldn't unlock, or some important NPCs were killed.
In MEA, lack of QA means peoples heads go all crazy, saves put you in awkward places (like someone mentioned being stuck behind a plant after a 10 minute convo). Lack of QA here just add's to the overall issues people are listing.
You know, it's quite easy to get enough information to make a compelling argument. Look, I just took 15 minutes to compare the last 10 reviews that I was able to get good PC reviews (non-beta) from both MMORPG and Metacritic and the average deviation is 4%. So, without colluding, it's pretty fucking difficult to come within a 4% range of 10s or hundreds of other critics. Also, it should be noted that the range is much tighter than, say, user reviews which are pretty much guaranteed to be 0-10 on any given game. There's hardly a conspiracy here. As @SBFord put it, though, if someone has proof, then blow the top off this pop-stand!! Please, PLEASE, come up with some sort of valid argument! Honestly, I'd love to see some intelligent argument made other than idle speculation that makes you sound like a tinfoil-hat-wearing conspiracy-buff.
Crazkanuk
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The reviewer is clearly a fan and is very forgiving of certain things that might bother others. However, the reviewer is very clear on what the issues are. Weird animations, User interface issues among other things.
So strip away his "like" for the game/IP and hone in on the things one thinks are important. Same as if he panned the game, you would look for the details and note whether those things are important to you.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
And for this kind of bugs and lazy development we have 8.7 score?
With cons like these, other game will be dissed as F, but it seems that this is not for Bioware game.
That group of people you refer to as 'we' are just as unknown to us as to you. People here in this thread are individuals, not statistics.
I will further extrapolate that it is the same for anyone daring to step out and write a review. It seems that the way of approaching differences of opinion is to bully and shame rather than rationally discuss the issue through mutual experiences. It's a disturbing and sad trend.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
I thought Kotaku worded it better when they said :
Scumbags Harass Woman For Working On Mass Effect: Andromeda's Animations
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
As a programmer myself, I'm always proud of my work, and it gives me immense validation to see people using (and appreciating) what I create.
I've met VERY few programmers in my life that "give no fucks" about what people thought of their work. But lucky for me, I'm not in the game development industry...