Why do you dislike Mass Effect Andromeda?

k61977

So this thread is for all those people that have a need to go to every thread about Mass Effect Andromeda and talk about how everything in the game is bad.  First and foremost if you haven't played the game don't bother replying please as you cannot give any real feedback as I want first hand knowledge of those that have played it.

We all know the animations are bad so please just leave that one out it is a known factor that everyone already knows about and agrees even the people that enjoy the game.

But if you say the story then say why the story is bad, give examples.  If you say it is the voice acting, which character is it you are talking about and if it is all of them then why do you think that.  If you say the combat what about the combat is bad?  What about the multiplayer?

Put some actual thought into it and tell me why the game is bad for you.

Elminzter

whats the point of this thread really let just stop talking about MEA already, whats the use of beating a dead horse???

for those that enjoy the game good for u, and those that dont good for u, i believe most of us are adults and had already made up our minds.

my 2 cents

Iselin

Elsabolts

This thread is like saying everyone from South Carolina flys the confederate flag and is racist, not true.

JeffSpicoli

The Writing and animations are not up to bioware or any AAA release standards. The real deal breaker for me though is i refuse to support a game that was made by openly bigoted and racist person. I should add he was recently let go from bioware but the damage has been done. I wont support or tolerate Agenda pushing trash from scum.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-19/mass-effect-andromeda-sucky-animations-bigoted-designer-and-fugly-females-lead-cance

k61977

DMKano said:

"So this thread is for all those people that have a need to go to every thread about Mass Effect Andromeda and talk about how everything in the game is bad."


At least you are very open about your agenda lol

You in particular have went to almost every post I have read and talk about the story is bad, etc.... this is your chance to actually state why you think that but instead decide to not do the one thing I asked.  I want to know why you think the game is bad.  Yeah I do enjoy the game myself.  I have enjoyed the story, combat ect...

But since this isn't a thread for saying that yeah some people enjoy the game you don't feel the need to lay out all your issues with the game.  Just goes to show you just want to complain instead.

k61977

thunderC said:

The Writing and animations are not up to bioware or any AAA release standards. The real deal breaker for me though is i refuse to support a game that was made by openly bigoted and racist person. I should add he was recently let go from bioware but the damage has been done. I wont support or tolerate Agenda pushing trash from scum.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-19/mass-effect-andromeda-sucky-animations-bigoted-designer-and-fugly-females-lead-cance

Thank you this is actually what I was looking for someone who gave a real honest answer.  I don't fault them for their opinions at all.

Bloodaxes

From someone who has never got interested in the games despite buying the first two, when I saw the animations, some of the voices, and bugs, I too didn't feel like it deserved the price.

Then you come to this site, and article after article telling people the game is great! ignore the haters! It is eye-roll worthy imo.

It's cool you like the game, just like it should be cool for people to find problems with it. It's certainly has it's issues. There's no need to hide it, nor bring up excuses by comparing it to other games.

MrMelGibson

k61977 said:

  First and foremost if you haven't played the game don't bother replying please as you cannot give any real feedback as I want first hand knowledge of those that have played it.
 

Did you notice that multiply people posted and totally ignored this part?  It's adorable that they think watching a youtube video gives the same insight as someone who has put 60+ hrs into the game lol.

gir243

thunderC said:

The Writing and animations are not up to bioware or any AAA release standards. The real deal breaker for me though is i refuse to support a game that was made by openly bigoted and racist person. I should add he was recently let go from bioware but the damage has been done. I wont support or tolerate Agenda pushing trash from scum.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-19/mass-effect-andromeda-sucky-animations-bigoted-designer-and-fugly-females-lead-cance

Was this dude the lead dev or something?  My understanding was that he was just one of the many.  I could be, and probably am wrong.

I sure hope you didn't want to play Star Citizen.  Ben Lesnick's blog will surely push you away from that one too.  Right?

Jonnyp2

MrMelGibson said:

k61977 said:

  First and foremost if you haven't played the game don't bother replying please as you cannot give any real feedback as I want first hand knowledge of those that have played it.
 

Did you notice that multiply people posted and totally ignored this part?  It's adorable that they think watching a youtube video gives the same insight as someone who has put 60+ hrs into the game lol.

I thought it was interesting that someone complained about the quality of writing and then linked an article about "sucky animations" and "fugly females". I couldn't read the actual content of the article because my iPad kept telling me I was the lucky winner of a $1000 Walmart gift card.  I did manage to see a couple screenshotted twitter posts before being bombarded in ads, very high quality journalism there.

k61977

MrMelGibson said:

k61977 said:

  First and foremost if you haven't played the game don't bother replying please as you cannot give any real feedback as I want first hand knowledge of those that have played it.
 

Did you notice that multiply people posted and totally ignored this part?  It's adorable that they think watching a youtube video gives the same insight as someone who has put 60+ hrs into the game lol.

Yeah I wanted people that actually played it and didn't like it to say yeah they didn't, so far I haven't had a single person that has played it say they didn't like it that has played it, kinda the point I was making.  I can understand some not wanting to purchase based off the dev that was let go personal stuff and his racist rants.  That I stand behind for them and is a valid reason.  But again it was funny that some posted but didn't even read the post but wanted to push their own agenda looking a the first post

Bloodaxes

What did you really expect? The thread is intentionally baiting people by calling their opinions bad unless they satisfy your needs.

Distopia

Bloodaxes said:

What did you really expect? The thread is intentionally baiting people by calling their opinions bad unless they satisfy your needs.

Asking people for specifics about their dislikes is baiting people? If folks can't answer that, there's no reason for them to be bombarding ME threads to begin with.... I guess you could say it's them that have "baited" this thread.... at least using your logic above...

Distopia

Jonnyp2 said:

MrMelGibson said:

k61977 said:

  First and foremost if you haven't played the game don't bother replying please as you cannot give any real feedback as I want first hand knowledge of those that have played it.
 

Did you notice that multiply people posted and totally ignored this part?  It's adorable that they think watching a youtube video gives the same insight as someone who has put 60+ hrs into the game lol.

I thought it was interesting that someone complained about the quality of writing and then linked an article about "sucky animations" and "fugly females". I couldn't read the actual content of the article because my iPad kept telling me I was the lucky winner of a $1000 Walmart gift card.  I did manage to see a couple screenshotted twitter posts before being bombarded in ads, very high quality journalism there.

It's sad how much influence these streamers have on so many gamers today, too many no longer have first hand experience with games, yet want to discuss them, when all they have to go on is second hand information that can be manipulated anyway the video creator wants, in other words they're parrotting that person's opinionated agenda over and over again, and act like that is all that is needed to pass judgment on a game. 

Bloodaxes

Distopia said:

Bloodaxes said:

What did you really expect? The thread is intentionally baiting people by calling their opinions bad unless they satisfy your needs.

Asking people for specifics about their dislikes is baiting people? If folks can't answer that, there's no reason for them to be bombarding ME threads to begin with.... I guess you could say it's them that have "baited" this thread.... at least using your logic above...

Yes, because anything good will come out from these type of threads. It's just bickering at this point for absolutely no reason.

Both sides are at fault because as the op clearly wrote, the game does have issues. However, contrary to the op, some people keep denying this, and obviously other people exaggerate the issues too. It's all a matter of opinions. The previous game was met with mix feels from the majority of the fans, there was bound to be haters of the newer game. Releasing in it's current state didn't help bringing said people back.

In the end? We get all this drama for a simple game.

Bloodaxes

Distopia said:

Jonnyp2 said:

MrMelGibson said:

k61977 said:

  First and foremost if you haven't played the game don't bother replying please as you cannot give any real feedback as I want first hand knowledge of those that have played it.
 

Did you notice that multiply people posted and totally ignored this part?  It's adorable that they think watching a youtube video gives the same insight as someone who has put 60+ hrs into the game lol.

I thought it was interesting that someone complained about the quality of writing and then linked an article about "sucky animations" and "fugly females". I couldn't read the actual content of the article because my iPad kept telling me I was the lucky winner of a $1000 Walmart gift card.  I did manage to see a couple screenshotted twitter posts before being bombarded in ads, very high quality journalism there.

It's sad how much influence these streamers have on so many gamers today, too many no longer have first hand experience with games, yet want to discuss them, when all they have to go on is second hand information that can be manipulated anyway the video creator wants, in other words they're parrotting that person's opinionated agenda over and over again, and act like that is all that is needed to pass judgment on a game. 

In this day and age, watching a trailer is no longer enough to judge a game. Being on a budget doesn't help either.

I certainly wouldn't buy anything before watching extensive gameplay footage. I don't have the money to "waste" being a student, and I certainly am selective on how I'll spend my spare time.

Wizardry

I already broke it down somewhat in as few sentences as i could in the other thread.
To put it simply,it is not good enough,i have better games to play and am not buying this one just because it is a new face.
I find fanbois attitudes as just bad for the industry because i already see it with Destiny 2,i bet millions are ready to hand over their money w/o even a care of the game's quality.All this free spending is allowing devs to do half assed work and get rich doing it.
As o the notion of 60 hours int othe game...LMAO

It doesn't even have 60 hours of gameplay.I watched several streamers and a lot of Dan's gaming whom i watched finish the game.The design of the game is the same from the first minute right to the end,imo a very weak overall presentation.
The final cutscene before the prologue....absolutely terrible as most all the cutscenes were.

Distopia

Bloodaxes said:

In this day and age, watching a trailer is no longer enough to judge a game. Being on a budget doesn't help either.

I certainly wouldn't buy anything before watching extensive gameplay footage. I don't have the money to "waste" being a student, and I certainly am selective on how I'll spend my spare time.

I am the same way, yet I find ways to deal with that, for ME:A I just paid 5 bucks to join EA Access, which allows you to play 10 hrs of the game. I am also able to play a bunch of other games as well in full. 

Just for the record I don't see it as a problem to view a video and decide you don't like what you see, that's fine, it's jumping in with such little knowledge to bemoan reviewers or others who have actually put hours in that is ridiculous. 

Bloodaxes

Distopia said:

Bloodaxes said:

Distopia said:

Jonnyp2 said:

MrMelGibson said:

k61977 said:

  First and foremost if you haven't played the game don't bother replying please as you cannot give any real feedback as I want first hand knowledge of those that have played it.
 

Did you notice that multiply people posted and totally ignored this part?  It's adorable that they think watching a youtube video gives the same insight as someone who has put 60+ hrs into the game lol.

I thought it was interesting that someone complained about the quality of writing and then linked an article about "sucky animations" and "fugly females". I couldn't read the actual content of the article because my iPad kept telling me I was the lucky winner of a $1000 Walmart gift card.  I did manage to see a couple screenshotted twitter posts before being bombarded in ads, very high quality journalism there.

It's sad how much influence these streamers have on so many gamers today, too many no longer have first hand experience with games, yet want to discuss them, when all they have to go on is second hand information that can be manipulated anyway the video creator wants, in other words they're parrotting that person's opinionated agenda over and over again, and act like that is all that is needed to pass judgment on a game. 

In this day and age, watching a trailer is no longer enough to judge a game. Being on a budget doesn't help either.

I certainly wouldn't buy anything before watching extensive gameplay footage. I don't have the money to "waste" being a student, and I certainly am selective on how I'll spend my spare time.

I am the same way, yet I find ways to deal with that, for ME:A I just paid 5 bucks to join EA Access, which allows you to play 10 hrs of the game. I am also able to play a bunch of other games as well in full. 

I can't simply stand early access. Just can't.

There's many promising games I'd love to try (Subnautica for one), but I hate hate hate early access with a passion. They rarely get out of that phase, and I don't want to spend time playing an incomplete version to have it all wiped off after a while.

Obviously a game from an AAA company is different, which is more distasteful having an early access in my opinion... But whatever.

Distopia

Bloodaxes said:

I can't simply stand early access. Just can't.

There's many promising games I'd love to try (Subnautica for one), but I hate hate hate early access with a passion. They rarely get out of that phase, and I don't want to spend time playing an incomplete version to have it all wiped off after a while.

Obviously a game from an AAA company is different, which is more distasteful having an early access in my opinion... But whatever.

Not early access EA access, it's their sub service that lets you play a decent backlog of their games and trial new ones. Only costs 5 bucks so there's little risk involved.

Caffynated

How dare people post in the most active threads on the forum. REEEEEEEEE

As far as your question goes, I'm about 40 hours in now and the story has failed to grab me. I find myself avoiding the main story to do side quests, but they are quickly starting to feel like repetitive busy work. I don't like the characters and don't feel any connection to them. Liam in particular annoys the crap out of me. He's the equivalent of a CoD dude bro that constantly says and does stupid things.

I'm someone who enjoys puzzles in my games and like that they break up some of the repetitive flow, but MEA's puzzles aren't particularly well designed.

I can see why some people like the changes they've made to combat, but I preferred the tactical style from previous games that were similar to Full Spectrum Warrior. Deploying your team members in the right spots and directing them to work as a team was what made ME games more than just a mediocre cover shooter.

As far as the Manveer stuff goes, Bioware knew exactly what he was when they hired him. He's been an outspoken SJW/Anti-white activist for more than a decade and has given promoted presentations on his ideology at places like GDC. When the backlash against him started a year ago, Bioware brass backed him up and continued to employ him for months while he fantasized about murdering white people for imagined offenses and pissing on their bloodied faces.

http://archive.is/bCQRS

Distopia

Caffynated said:

How dare people post in the most active threads on the forum. REEEEEEEEE

As far as your question goes, I'm about 40 hours in now and the story has failed to grab me. I find myself avoiding the main story to do side quests, but they are quickly starting to feel like repetitive busy work. I don't like the characters and don't feel any connection to them. Liam in particular annoys the crap out of me. He's the equivalent of a CoD dude bro that constantly says and does stupid things.

I'm someone who enjoys puzzles in my games and like that they break up some of the repetitive flow, but MEA's puzzles aren't particularly well designed.

I can see why some people like the changes they've made to combat, but I preferred the tactical style from previous games that were similar to Full Spectrum Warrior. Deploying your team members in the right spots and directing them to work as a team was what made ME games more than just a mediocre cover shooter.

As far as the Manveer stuff goes, Bioware knew exactly what he was when they hired him. He's been an outspoken SJW/Anti-white activist for more than a decade and has given promoted presentations on his ideology at places like GDC. When the backlash against him started a year ago, Bioware brass backed him up and continued to employ him for months while he fantasized about murdering white people for imagined offenses and pissing on their bloodied faces.

http://archive.is/bCQRS

Hey now (misses foot tapping emote) wait a sec... Wasn't it you who went all apespit on me because I said connecting to characters is important to some in an RPG? I'd also like to point out if you've put 40hrs in, how did you not know that nonsense about not being able to create white characters was BS?

Caffynated

Distopia said:

Caffynated said:

How dare people post in the most active threads on the forum. REEEEEEEEE

As far as your question goes, I'm about 40 hours in now and the story has failed to grab me. I find myself avoiding the main story to do side quests, but they are quickly starting to feel like repetitive busy work. I don't like the characters and don't feel any connection to them. Liam in particular annoys the crap out of me. He's the equivalent of a CoD dude bro that constantly says and does stupid things.

I'm someone who enjoys puzzles in my games and like that they break up some of the repetitive flow, but MEA's puzzles aren't particularly well designed.

I can see why some people like the changes they've made to combat, but I preferred the tactical style from previous games that were similar to Full Spectrum Warrior. Deploying your team members in the right spots and directing them to work as a team was what made ME games more than just a mediocre cover shooter.

As far as the Manveer stuff goes, Bioware knew exactly what he was when they hired him. He's been an outspoken SJW/Anti-white activist for more than a decade and has given promoted presentations on his ideology at places like GDC. When the backlash against him started a year ago, Bioware brass backed him up and continued to employ him for months while he fantasized about murdering white people for imagined offenses and pissing on their bloodied faces.

http://archive.is/bCQRS

Hey now (misses foot tapping emote) wait a sec... Wasn't it you who went all apespit on me because I said connecting to characters is important to some in an RPG? I'd also like to point out if you've put 40hrs in, how did you not know that nonsense about not being able to create white characters was BS?

No, I said needing characters to be like you in order to connect with them was weird at best and bigoted at worst.

Normal people have no trouble connecting with characters who don't share their race, sex or sexual orientation. Most people don't even need the character to be human to identify with them. I got sad when I thought an anthropomorphized trash compactor died in Wall-E.

Distopia

Caffynated said:

Distopia said:

Caffynated said:

How dare people post in the most active threads on the forum. REEEEEEEEE

As far as your question goes, I'm about 40 hours in now and the story has failed to grab me. I find myself avoiding the main story to do side quests, but they are quickly starting to feel like repetitive busy work. I don't like the characters and don't feel any connection to them. Liam in particular annoys the crap out of me. He's the equivalent of a CoD dude bro that constantly says and does stupid things.

I'm someone who enjoys puzzles in my games and like that they break up some of the repetitive flow, but MEA's puzzles aren't particularly well designed.

I can see why some people like the changes they've made to combat, but I preferred the tactical style from previous games that were similar to Full Spectrum Warrior. Deploying your team members in the right spots and directing them to work as a team was what made ME games more than just a mediocre cover shooter.

As far as the Manveer stuff goes, Bioware knew exactly what he was when they hired him. He's been an outspoken SJW/Anti-white activist for more than a decade and has given promoted presentations on his ideology at places like GDC. When the backlash against him started a year ago, Bioware brass backed him up and continued to employ him for months while he fantasized about murdering white people for imagined offenses and pissing on their bloodied faces.

http://archive.is/bCQRS

Hey now (misses foot tapping emote) wait a sec... Wasn't it you who went all apespit on me because I said connecting to characters is important to some in an RPG? I'd also like to point out if you've put 40hrs in, how did you not know that nonsense about not being able to create white characters was BS?

No, I said needing characters to be like you in order to connect with them was weird at best and bigoted at worst.

Normal people have no trouble connecting with characters who don't share their race, sex or sexual orientation. Most people don't even need the character to be human to identify with them. I got sad when I thought an anthropomorphized trash compactor died in Wall-E.

Fair enough.. 

SavageHorizon

How about this Op. 

Played as much of the game as I can take. , bad character stories, fucking crap animations and pathetic gay liberalism.