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Time for a new ^%&@# mouse---Stop buying mainstream junk
Well my G600 started the well known double F'n clicking issue and it's out
of warranty.....so the hunt begins. TBH I haven't had the best luck with Logitech anything lasting more than three years (besides my G710+ keyboard), and I have been buying their stuff for the last 15+ years. I bought this mouse 4 years ago, but went about a year not using it much since I played games mostly on my laptop. I would say I got about 3 years out of it; this to me seems like below average for a mouse. Maybe it's just time to change in brands.
I'm looking for a new mouse, I alternate between claw grip and tip grip. I am not necessarily looking for an MMO specific mouse as I rarely use the added buttons since they tend to be on the small side and I have bigger hands, plus I like to play FPS and RPG so I only really need 2-3 left side buttons. I kinda want mechanical buttons that have a more tactical click and will last. Wired preferred and nothing reaching into the $150 range since there really is no F'n point in spending that much on a mouse in my opinion.
So far I have looked at
Corsair - Scimitar Pro (MMO gaming mouse but seems like it would be good multi use mouse)
Corsair - M65 PRO (really like the aluminum frame even if it is FPS)
Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum ( Logitech, will it fail in a few years?) good all around mouse I guess
Razer - Lancehead Tournament Edition (not a huge fan of razor as I hear they either have buggy software, or really bad quality control, but this is a new mouse)
ROCCAT - TYON (this seems like a huge leap away from the mainstream pack)
SteelSeries - Rival 700 Gaming Mouse (again not as mainstream)
Anyone here tried any of these mice? Local Bestbuy doesn't seem to have any of the above to try so I'm basing the decision off youtube and review opinions. Thanks in advance.
I'm looking for a new mouse, I alternate between claw grip and tip grip. I am not necessarily looking for an MMO specific mouse as I rarely use the added buttons since they tend to be on the small side and I have bigger hands, plus I like to play FPS and RPG so I only really need 2-3 left side buttons. I kinda want mechanical buttons that have a more tactical click and will last. Wired preferred and nothing reaching into the $150 range since there really is no F'n point in spending that much on a mouse in my opinion.
So far I have looked at
Corsair - Scimitar Pro (MMO gaming mouse but seems like it would be good multi use mouse)
Corsair - M65 PRO (really like the aluminum frame even if it is FPS)
Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum ( Logitech, will it fail in a few years?) good all around mouse I guess
Razer - Lancehead Tournament Edition (not a huge fan of razor as I hear they either have buggy software, or really bad quality control, but this is a new mouse)
ROCCAT - TYON (this seems like a huge leap away from the mainstream pack)
SteelSeries - Rival 700 Gaming Mouse (again not as mainstream)
Anyone here tried any of these mice? Local Bestbuy doesn't seem to have any of the above to try so I'm basing the decision off youtube and review opinions. Thanks in advance.
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I was a logitech fan for mouses for a long time (the G5 is still my favorite, and also using a G710 KB), but after a 500 wasn't quite was I was looking for I tried a Corsair M65, and I like it almost as well as the G5. I've had it for... a lil over a year now - no issues yet.
Tried a couple of different Razers and a Steelseries inbetween finding the Corsair - I didn't like the way the Steelseries felt in my hand, and I wasn't happy with the Razers either.
The way I hold the mouse naturally, the thumb button is just past the tip of my thumb. I usually have my wrist resting on the pad and use it as a pivot, moving forwards and back by going from a tip grip to a claw grip. Don't know if that's how you alternate between the two, but that's my reference. I rarely bother mapping the thumb as I don't like moving my hand on the mouse, but as a bonus, I never accidentally hit it.
I had a G7 that got doubleclickitis so I know the burn. Oddly, it went away after a bit. I got my G502 shortly after they came out and haven't had an issue with it yet, but it's barely been over a year. Wouldn't blame you at all for not giving them another shot though.
As for the others, I have a Fry's and a MicroCenter both pretty close by and I'm constantly looking keyboards and mice for reasons I can't explain so I've tried most of them.
Roccat felt a little odd, but pretty similar to the G7. I already had the 502 by the time I checked it out. The G502 feels a little thinner in the ass than the G7 and Tyon to me.
Scimitar felt odd to me. I have a G600 also, but never use it because it feels odd as well. So it might work better for you.
Almost bought a M65 when I got the G502. The Pro I don't think was out yet. Only thing I didn't like was that I could feel the side cutaways on the back end when I brought it into a claw position. I'm pretty sure I would have gotten used to them, but the initial feel was weird. I also couldn't completely decide when I was messing with it in the store whether or not I liked the aim button and location.
Never tried the Razer Lancehead.
I've tried the Steelseries 300 and 500. Not the 700. Just seen in the box. Profile wise it looks similar to the 500 though, which I thought was comfortable.
Side note: check your local Walmart also. A lot of them carry Steelseries now. Probably not the 700, but never know.
I had a G5 and that was my favorite mouse back in the day. I liked the ability to adjust weight. It died long ago, but if I could find something else that had the same similar shape and size It would be best I think
Been using an M65 for a good long while now and it's been fantastic. My roommate however did have an issue with his roller button clicking not working, and he got a roccat to replace it and has been happy.
Thing about mice is they're so subjective. If you have fingertip vs claw vs palm, etc, one mouse might be anathema to you that another person thinks is the best thing ever.
"The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher esteem those who think alike than those who think differently."
- Friedrich Nietzsche
Mad Catz just went bankrupt so I doubt you'll see more of these mice in the future. I'm trying to grab another before they disappear myself. Anyone use this mouse and transitioned over to a different mouse that you would recommend?
The Glaive just came out and this is the one I am considering. I like that you can change out the left side thumb rests. I usually like a wide thumb rest for playing MMOs where your mouse hand isn't as active, but like narrower feel for FPS and MMOs with hybrid combat. Saves me from having to either buy 2 different mice, or settle on one style. No tilt scroll wheel as usual with Corsair mice, but I never use tilt if I have it anyways; it was always a "just in case" feature.
Anyway, I've always liked using the Razer Naga, and a while ago I got the Razer Blackwidow keyboard as well.
Both still work perfectly fine, maybe a bit overpriced compared to similar things, but I like their products.
Only thing is, I don't really use the buttons anymore on the Razer Naga because I quit WoW (and they made the game revolve around 10~ buttons a class compared to 40~ in MoP).
Good read. I don't personally care for Razers, but the article was informative and he gives pros/cons for all the mice he considers.
Considering your avatar, you must be violent with your mice lol.
To the OP:
I've had three Razer naga's over the last 6ish years. I'm pretty sure I got my first around 2010-11. Best mmo mouse, imo. First one died on me after about 3 years. The second one lasted me about two years until I accidentally dropped it and broke the scroll wheel. I've had the last one for almost a year, still going strong.
My only complaint is that the Naga is a bit on the larger side, so if you don't have longer fingers or a bigger palm it may get uncomfortable.
Yeah I always disable those.
Tried it, they gave me a generic answer and closed the ticket before it
was even resolved and never offered to tell me how I could get it fixed.
I then opened the ticket again, left them a nice message and left it at
that. It was at that point I knew it was time to walk away from Logitech.
Little back story on why I hate them.
Years ago I bought a Logitech g15 keyboard, within 6 months of using it the
key lettering began to wear off since they were just painted on. I asked
for a replacement and they stated they couldn't even under warranty
since it is not a mechanical failure due to manufacturing issue and if I
wanted to send mine in I would be charged so I left it alone. Couple
years go by and I start seeing the complaints that have mounted against
them for the exact issue. I guess at one point they changed their minds
and issued replacements for a short time. By this time they had already
put out the G15 v2, so I asked if I could have mine replaced and of
course since I was out of warranty by 2 months it was a no go. I asked
if they had replacement keys, and got the generic response that they
can't give replacement keys. Come to find out they had given out
replacement keys to some customers.
I gave them another chance and I have of course since bought more of their
products only because they seem to shovel out feature packed peripherals faster compared to most companies by at least a few years. Which is the problem, their
speed to market is obviously too fast as their quality control sucks.
They are notorious for shoving crap out, then fixing issues over many
versions rather than getting it right the first time. I don't mind
companies that revise their products with updates for the emerging
market, but I don't like buying stuff that fails due to their negligence
in thoroughly testing a product for before hitting the market.
So with that said I am moving on from Logitech.
Never had a problem with any of them. Each mouse worked perfectly fine for years, up until I replaced it with a newer model.
I agree the software is poor. Can't say the same about quality control - at least not in my case.
I'm currently using a Mamba Tournament Edition.
This is a personal preference, but I'd stay away from MMO mice. The buttons always felt like a gimmick, and the mouse is more difficult to grip due to having less free space.
Yeah am staying away from MMO mice. After using the G600 for a few years I found it more annoying and less comfortable to use. I only need two thumb buttons for any gaming I do. I ended up deciding to give the Corsair Glaive a go. It's not the coolest looking mouse but I like the modular capability and Omron switches.
I moved to the Logitech G600 and have had no mechanical issues for the last 2-3 years. Biggest issue I've had is accidentally pushing the re-assignable buttons to change DPI settings. WTF just happened! I didn't want to spin around 2 1/4 times and end up looking at the sky!
All in all it's a decent mouse that does what I need it to and no more. As for the CUE software you are right, it's not as intuitive as Logitech's, but It works and seems to have more customization capabilities. I wish the they added onscreen DPI cues, but I mostly play in one or two dpi settings so it's not needed. I know some people complained that the DPI lighting on the mouse was not customizable, but I have never thought it was issue. I almost went for the M65 which I felt was the closest in shape to the G600, but the fact that I would change the side grips on the Glaive sold me on it.
Edit: One thing I have noticed is that the Corsair RGB Logo gets warm after it's been cycling for about 30 min or so. While this isn't a deal breaker I could see ho wit might get annoying to some. Not sure what's going on there with that issue.