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We’ve heard for a long time that big changes are coming to FFXIV when Stormblood finally launches — and now, just weeks away from early access, we have an idea of what we’re going to see, thanks to this month’s Letter from the Producer.

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azurrei

Healers have no excuse anymore to not heal in combat you say??? I that is the point of the job..:p All typo jokes aside, the job changes overall look great - can't wait to get back into FF14 with the expansion!

Hashbrick

Excited to experience the changes, hoping for less "spreadsheet management" and more gameplay.

Avarix

'Finally, as I suggested in a previous column when it emerged Cleric Stance was being reworked, healers no longer need to enter a stance in order to do meaningful damage. Previously, Cleric Stance would switch intelligence and mind (your damage and healing stats) meaning being in stance would enable you to hurt people but not heal them; in Stormblood, both healing and damage will come from your mind stat. Now there’s no excuse not to heal in combat, because it’s essentially risk-free. Come on. Just throw the odd Aero in. It won’t hurt you.'

This triggered me. Yoshi-P has stated that healer damage is not taken into account when creating dps checks. So do your damn job and quit putting extra pressure on your healer and tank!

Anywho, I like the changes I have seen so far. I think I will be maining Bard. I like the mobility, and the extra support they can bring is great as well.

marcjt20

This makes me want to come back to the game now....

Kajidourden

Much improved!

unfilteredJW

Avarix said:

'Finally, as I suggested in a previous column when it emerged Cleric Stance was being reworked, healers no longer need to enter a stance in order to do meaningful damage. Previously, Cleric Stance would switch intelligence and mind (your damage and healing stats) meaning being in stance would enable you to hurt people but not heal them; in Stormblood, both healing and damage will come from your mind stat. Now there’s no excuse not to heal in combat, because it’s essentially risk-free. Come on. Just throw the odd Aero in. It won’t hurt you.'



This triggered me. Yoshi-P has stated that healer damage is not taken into account when creating dps checks. So do your damn job and quit putting extra pressure on your healer and tank!



Anywho, I like the changes I have seen so far. I think I will be maining Bard. I like the mobility, and the extra support they can bring is great as well.

There's no pressure to begin with. You group should be avoiding enough damage that you are standing there. If you are standing there, or spending your time healing people that are at 80% health, you are doing it so, so wrong.

Geddon95405

let us not forget that stormblood also brings shortcuts for leveling and that includes completion of the main quest. Now if you hate questing, and a lot of us do, you can skip the main storyline of realm reborn and heavensward which was gating tons of endgame content.

Coolit

Although not known for its pvp there are massive changes coming to pvp in the xpac too.

They have completely split pvp and pve which now has its own abilities with pve skills not being usable at all in pvp and vice versa. You can select 12 abilities from a pool of skills to provide customisation plus gear is all normalized along with HP.

It sounds like they have really thought things out with the new system.

Kajidourden

Aori said:

Combat system is still going to be slow, so nothing changes for me

This.  I'm spoiled now.

Kelarlee

Until they make combat system more dynamic, dont think i will return...

Jamar870

What makes a combat system dynamic as compared to FFXIV?

moosecatlol

Jamar870 said:

What makes a combat system dynamic as compared to FFXIV?

I think he means that in PvE, everything is scripted in such a way that every single attack used by an enemy will happen in sequence unless a mechanic is skipped or if the enemy gets spin-locked.

Furthermore this bleeds over into a players play style when they aim to achieve the most efficient potency per second available. Every DRK will open with DA->SE->Um->Pl. . .etc, because it is the most mathematically effective use of skills.

Such is the paradigm of tab-target trinity combat.

Kayo83

Haha this was hyping me up a little until the very last paragraph.

Thanks for reminding me SE has become a greed driven, empty husk of what it used to be before I threw more money away.

Warlyx

parry and accuraccy dissapear

parry now becomes tenacity

-reduce damage taken
-increases your action) ability damage/damage in general

and acc is supposed to be something like "multistrike" (rumor i think)

Warlyx

moosecatlol said:

Jamar870 said:

What makes a combat system dynamic as compared to FFXIV?

I think he means that in PvE, everything is scripted in such a way that every single attack used by an enemy will happen in sequence unless a mechanic is skipped or if the enemy gets spin-locked.

Furthermore this bleeds over into a players play style when they aim to achieve the most efficient potency per second available. Every DRK will open with DA->SE->Um->Pl. . .etc, because it is the most mathematically effective use of skills.

Such is the paradigm of tab-target trinity combat.

they have changed this somehow in HW , with bosses doing random patterns (still scripted as hell )

Dragnelus

Think it will be a good filler until (mmorpg of the year /wink) Destiny 2 launch, I really hope it launch in sept on the pc with the consoles!

z0mb13n1nja

"groups of jobs (such as tanks) will have a pool of abilities shared between them"

ok so dosent this mean were still going to have to play those classes to unlock the shared abilites? can someone please clarify this change

linadragon

z0mb13n1nja said:

"groups of jobs (such as tanks) will have a pool of abilities shared between them"



ok so dosent this mean were still going to have to play those classes to unlock the shared abilites? can someone please clarify this change

No what it means is that "cross class" crap is basically shared no matter what. So you can activate them on any class instead of having to level in further to get it.

beebop500

moosecatlol said:

Jamar870 said:

What makes a combat system dynamic as compared to FFXIV?

I think he means that in PvE, everything is scripted in such a way that every single attack used by an enemy will happen in sequence unless a mechanic is skipped or if the enemy gets spin-locked.

Furthermore this bleeds over into a players play style when they aim to achieve the most efficient potency per second available. Every DRK will open with DA->SE->Um->Pl. . .etc, because it is the most mathematically effective use of skills.

Such is the paradigm of a game where everyone of any given class uses the same exact skills, in the same exact rotation, because there is no sort of build diversity whatsoever..

Fixed that last line for you. There are plenty of tab-targeting, trinity-based games that allow players some level of freedom in their builds, and more than one tiny action bar. FF XIV is not one of them!

doubledrag87

Kelarlee said:

Until they make combat system more dynamic, dont think i will return...

Need to elaborate more on this for people to agree or debate.

Lahuzer

For some1 that dont wanna look at the entire stream to find out the changes to PVP. Can some1 sum it up that knows it?

z0mb13n1nja

linadragon said:

z0mb13n1nja said:

"groups of jobs (such as tanks) will have a pool of abilities shared between them"





ok so dosent this mean were still going to have to play those classes to unlock the shared abilites? can someone please clarify this change

No what it means is that "cross class" crap is basically shared no matter what. So you can activate them on any class instead of having to level in further to get it.

ty! that makes alot more sense

Warlyx

Lahuzer said:

For some1 that dont wanna look at the entire stream to find out the changes to PVP. Can some1 sum it up that knows it?

PvP System Changes

• Level Restriction Removal
  • Any job over level 30 can participate
• PvP Attributes Determined by Role
  • Tank/Healer/Melee DPS/Range DPS/Caster
  • Gear affects appearance only
• PvP Hotbars for Each Job

• All PvP Actions are now PvP-specific
  • 9 actions per job + 2 selectable actions + Adrenaline Rush (limit break)
    
  • Allows for adjustment without affecting PvE balance
• Direction requirements for Melee DPS have been removed
• Consolidated combos free up hotbar space
• Less Complexity = More Maneuverability 

Dreamion

If you're currently doing early heavensward content, will you be able to skip to stormblood? please say yes ^^

zanfire

This game feels like they are just constantly dumbing it down. Removing stats which were already pretty dumbed down and even not letting you mix stats seems like they are either lazy or trying way too hard to make everything as basic as possible to balance (which will never be truly balanced anyways). Throw in stuff like story and level skipping items and their constant re-skinning of their main 2 types of endgame i'm confused as to why people love this game so much.

I noticed how scripted/linear/repeated everything became back at the start of HW and could not get myself to continue the terrible ladder gear climb where of course content/gear all become completely irrelevant every other patch. It was such a shift from XI that did the complete opposite and handled thing like the story missions with competency by not forcing you into it, but putting great insensitive to complete it (access to special areas or great gear). So what the hell happened here?

Maybe people are starting to take notice, but i see how the comments for posts about this game went from just about everyone praising this game and calling it the best MMO out to now a pretty mixed bag.