Is SWG anything like kotor

pistolier

I have played the kotor games over and over so i got to know if swg is anything like kotor.

Elnator

In that you advance through use of skills yes. It's not level based like KOTOR and it's significantly harder to become a jedi. But in a rough general sort of way there are similarities. It's an MMORPG though so don't expect it to be exactly like KOTOR.

Erillion

Skill training  and the planet Kashyyyk (many seperate zones that you gain access to one after the other) will remind you of KOTOR, but otherwise its quite different.

Have fun

Erillion

pistolier

The graphics don't look to good whats up with that?

Elnator

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Originally posted by pistolier
The graphics don't look to good whats up with that?

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Here are current screenshots with the graphics tweaked for maximum quality in the game and with AA turned on by the Video card:

SWG Screenshots w/ AA4 turned on on the Nvidia card and bloom off in game with maxed quality settings

The graphics are excellent compared to any MMO on the market.

Ceticarr

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Originally posted by Elnator
Originally posted by pistolier
The graphics don't look to good whats up with that?

Here are current screenshots with the graphics tweaked for maximum quality in the game and with AA turned on by the Video card:

SWG Screenshots w/ AA4 turned on on the Nvidia card and bloom off in game with maxed quality settings

The graphics are excellent compared to any MMO on the market.

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Nice, those screens make me wanna play SWG again.

Wakizashi

SWG is quickly rocketing towards "KOTOR Online"  Hurry and start playing and you may be able to grasp the last few straws of originality left. 

Scorpes

 Stop listening to these people blowing smoke up your ... Star Wars Galaxies is nothing like Kotor other than in both games Jedi are a dime a dozen.

Elnator

My only suggestion is:
Try the game. It's only $30
Play for the free month.
If you like it, subscribe... if not... that's cool too! But at least you'll know

Scaris

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Originally posted by pistolier
The graphics don't look to good whats up with that?

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Errr, you played KotOR and your asking about SWG's graphics??? *chuckles* SWG makes KoTOR's graphics look silly.

Kem0sabe

Then again, Kotor makes SWG look silly in terms of story, quests and fleshed out game universe, i still consider the kotor games the pinacle of starwars based games.

Scaris

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Originally posted by Kem0sabe
Then again, Kotor makes SWG look silly in terms of story, quests and fleshed out game universe, i still consider the kotor games the pinacle of starwars based games.

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Your kidding right? Your comparing a linear storyline to content in an MMO? Fleshed out game universe? You would call those small few zones between about 4 planets a fleshed out universe? Have you even gone and seen most of the POI's in SWG?

Jabba's palace, the warrens, and the other themeparks just to list a few? Sounds to me like you just prefer your content being given too you and you just having to pick multiple choice answers for it. Thats not content. Sorry I like to think alittle more out of the box then that. I like to have to explore to find things, not just trace the zone boundaries on a map to discover everything.

Kem0sabe

SOrry if i didnt get my point across in a more precise language, i prolly did give off the wrong idea.

My meaning was, that the kotor universe was better implemented not in size of the game world, but the overall atmosphere, if you have read the graphic novels, comics and other source material from the time period the game is based on(kotor) you will feel right at home playing the game, not saying that SWG fails to do that to some degree, but for me personaly the game fails to capture the feel of the original source material they worked with(the orignal starwars movies. Just my point of view, i can see why others might disagree with it.

Elnator

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Originally posted by Kem0sabe
Then again, Kotor makes SWG look silly in terms of story, quests and fleshed out game universe, i still consider the kotor games the pinacle of starwars based games.

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That's got to be the most rediculous statement I've ever read. Kotor has like.... oh.... 1/100th the number of quests that SWG has, if that many. Fleshed out game universe? 6 planets? With um... 3-4 zones each? Um.. sure... ok...

SWG has 10 planets. 11 Space Sectors. Hundreds, if not thousands, of missions and quests to accomplish (not counting terminal missions mind you). Over 30 player owned and piloted ships. Full 3D Space Simulator spaceflight and combat. The ability to play 10 races and dozens of professions.

And Better Graphics, Gameplay and Community... oh wait..... KOTOR doesn't have Community since it's single player.

Don't get me wrong. KOTOR was a good game. I liked it a lot. But to compare KOTOR to SWG is just flat out stupid. It doesn't even come close to the scope, breadth and depth of SWG.

Kem0sabe

If you managed to read my follow up post you would know where im coming from, i dont compare the size and the fact that the game was single player, just talking on how the source material/game atmosphere was better implemented, i know it was daunting task to populate SWG with content, but they did a relative poor job at it from my point of view.

Wheezal

"feel" is a very subjective thing.  i know many people play SWG due to actual game mechanics, not the "StarWarsy-ness".  others play cuz they love EVERYTHING Star Wars, irregardless of how good or bad it is.

SWG is much more then KOTOR is on almost every level.  but "feel" is up to each person.  me, personally, "feel" great about the game and it's relation to SW. 

Scaris

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Originally posted by Kem0sabe
If you managed to read my follow up post you would know where im coming from, i dont compare the size and the fact that the game was single player, just talking on how the source material/game atmosphere was better implemented, i know it was daunting task to populate SWG with content, but they did a relative poor job at it from my point of view.

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I THINK I know where your coming from but if I am understanding you right its the other people in the game that detracts from that feeling, not really a content/storyline type issue. The fact that an MMO has to be wide open and not linear and have other people that aren't necassarily part of your gameplay in it would be the cause.

If that isn't it then I still don't get ya, sorry.

Elnator

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Originally posted by Kem0sabe
SOrry if i didnt get my point across in a more precise language, i prolly did give off the wrong idea.My meaning was, that the kotor universe was better implemented not in size of the game world, but the overall atmosphere, if you have read the graphic novels, comics and other source material from the time period the game is based on(kotor) you will feel right at home playing the game, not saying that SWG fails to do that to some degree, but for me personaly the game fails to capture the feel of the original source material they worked with(the orignal starwars movies. Just my point of view, i can see why others might disagree with it.

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The reason for that is simple:
In a single player game you can force players to follow a storyline and guide them through it. In an MMORPG you cannot.

If you take the time to seek out the missions in SWG it is just as well done and the storylines are just as interesting. The difference is that SWG doesn't force you through a plot or story. It can't. It's an MMO not a Single Player RPG.

You could easily say the same thing about NWN verses EQ2 or WOW or DAOC, since NWN forces you through a content storyline while the MMORPG's do not.

No MMORPG is going to feel as gripping as a single player game as far as story or plot goes unless you make a concious effort to follow the plots in the game that the developers put in there for you.

Kem0sabe

Yeah you have a point Elnator, its just wishfull thinking on my part i think, theres no clause that we have to be rational on an online forum hehe

Would love to see them move the story forward in SWG, the game has been out for 2 years now if im not mistaken, i think its time to move it towards episode 5 and 6, but what i would think would rock my world would be that the game moved into the expanded universe story line, maybe into the vong invasion, would rock eh?

But for that there would be need for a new game i think, maybe SWG 2?

Elnator

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Originally posted by Kem0sabe
Yeah you have a point Elnator, its just wishfull thinking on my part i think, theres no clause that we have to be rational on an online forum hehe Would love to see them move the story forward in SWG, the game has been out for 2 years now if im not mistaken, i think its time to move it towards episode 5 and 6, but what i would think would rock my world would be that the game moved into the expanded universe story line, maybe into the vong invasion, would rock eh? But for that there would be need for a new game i think, maybe SWG 2?

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Actually they've mentioned that they're considering moving the storyline forward to, or beyond, EPVI with the next expansion. They haven't made any promises but they did graze it in an interview when asked if they'd move the storyline backwards prior to the Clone wars to help explain all the jedi...

I think the actual answer was "We're actually considering moving it out just past EPVI but no formal decision has been made".

I can't remember where I read the interview at but it was a interview by one of the gaming rags with a LucasArts rep.

Kem0sabe

Do you think it will be feasable to move into the expanded universe with the current game? Thats a question i keep asking myself, lets see, every single imperial would have to be relocated into the imperial remenant planets, taking a look at the current planets in the game, those would all be in new republic hands, all the imperial quests and other stuff would have to be wiped out, major game art changes and so on, they would have to add one or more new imprial controled planets, so the empire faction players to relocate there, or else they would have to remove that faction from the game.

I think the scope of the changes is so large that its impossible to implement on the current game, even the way the expanded universe story line unfolds is quite beyond the current game mechanics, the only reason i see for that licasarts guy saying what he did is too do PR, to try and keep the ucrrent player base looking thords a future that will never happen as a way to maintaining them, best they could do was start development of SWG2 entirely based on the expanded universe.

Elnator

Oh I dunno I'm sure it could be done. It's not like SOE's never done an expansion that doubled the size of one of their MMO's before (or have we all forgotten Kunark?)

It's not like it'd be hard to throw in 3 or 4 new planets and space sectors to add a small imp remnant area.

And, remember, he said "just past" not "EU" past. Also important to remember is that the "EU" is not canonical and they can completely ignore it if they want to.

Kem0sabe

Well that would be one expansion i would preorder

and your right, the EU is not binding in terms of story line for lucas, but i just want to point out how much better it is than the new star wars movie trilogy, especily the vong invasion books, the first one was amazing by salvatore and most of the others followed suit, i think the game beeing based on that time period would make for a more existing SWG, you had plenty of jedi, major space battles, major ground battles, plenty of material t base quests on and you could play as an imperial or republic fighting eachother or helping each other against the vong.

Elnator

Actually I found the Vong invasion very 'reachy'... just didn't feel like Star Wars to me. Maybe I just have a hard time buying into killer plants that can generate gravometric anomalies The Thrawn invasion was MUCH better, imo.

Kem0sabe

Thrawn is prolly the best villain in starwars, he was so well made and fleshed out, plus he was simply badass, if he was admiral during the time of the films there wouldnt even be a fight

I think the vong invasion was needed to spice things up in the EU and get the sotry going, things were getting a little "same old same old", the republic had a problem, called up luke, leia or solo, they kicked ass and solved it. Was bold move to kill off chewie also

Elnator

Not to mention LucasArts has already used Thrawn in a video game He was featured in Tie Fighter

So we know they liked him

So, if they expanded to beyond EPVI I could see them doing something with Thrawn... I REALLY don't see them trying to use the Vong attack... If they did I might even leave... ungh... I am NOT fighting plants in space LOL!!!