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GPU dying?
Hi, well I'm having this weird issue whenever I'm playing games that are a little demanding. When I play shellshock and such, I have no problems, but playing The Surge it happened twice.
The thing that's happening is; While I'm playing, the pc starts emitting a lot of heat (It's running the game almost everything maxed out and summer) and out of the blue, the screen "glitches" and I have to restart the system to make it go away. It might go away if I waited but I haven't tried. This also makes the computer run slower until I restart it.
I tried using msi burner to check my temperature while running the game, and the result is the gpu reaching around 80 degrees. Not sure if that's an issue as it seems like it's a normal temp while running games from researching.
The monitor is fairly new too (Around a year), just incase it needs to be mentioned. I'm using it with an hdmi cable instead of dvi-d.
My graphic card is an R9 290 Tri-X from sapphire.
I tried to search for similar problems, but it's hard to word the glitching that is occurring. It's like the screen is broken in a bunch of triangular polygons if that seems more accurate.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
The thing that's happening is; While I'm playing, the pc starts emitting a lot of heat (It's running the game almost everything maxed out and summer) and out of the blue, the screen "glitches" and I have to restart the system to make it go away. It might go away if I waited but I haven't tried. This also makes the computer run slower until I restart it.
I tried using msi burner to check my temperature while running the game, and the result is the gpu reaching around 80 degrees. Not sure if that's an issue as it seems like it's a normal temp while running games from researching.
The monitor is fairly new too (Around a year), just incase it needs to be mentioned. I'm using it with an hdmi cable instead of dvi-d.
My graphic card is an R9 290 Tri-X from sapphire.
I tried to search for similar problems, but it's hard to word the glitching that is occurring. It's like the screen is broken in a bunch of triangular polygons if that seems more accurate.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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The PSU is quite old honestly, and sometimes when playing games like The Surge or BDO it scares me. My surge protected extension cord's led turns off sometimes, but pushing it a little turns it back on. It never does it when being idle or playing non demanding games tough, and that is why it makes me worried haha. Could be nothing, but I already had my pc fried by a lightning once, I'd rather not have it happen again.
Another issue I have but I don't think it has anything to do with this topic is having to press F2 when booting the system when I unplug it. Shows a black screen that bios settings have reset. My father turned off the lights twice in a row while I was using my pc and that's when it started happening. Some friends suggested me to try replace the motherboard's battery which I haven't tried yet.
Well... no, I don't have any part that I overclocked myself. As for the PSU it's a corsair tx 650W: http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/tx-series-tx650-80-plus-bronze-certified-650-watt-high-performance-power-supply
Before you just throw it out: take it out of your computer, and use canned air or something, blow the everliving snot out of every crack and crevice you can get to.
The temp doesn't look bad, but that's just the GPU chip itself, the card still has to cool a VRAM and power converter modules, and it's really really easy for dust to get up inside the shroud and gum up just enough to cause problems.
While you have the card out, it wouldn't hurt to clean out all the other heatsinks, vents, and fans in there.
See if that helps any, if it does, bonus. If not, yeah probably time for a new GPU. If you are planning on spending a lot of money on a GPU, it would be good insurance to replace the PSU at the same time, but I don't necessarily think your current PSU caused anything.
Tomorrow I'll be taking it to the store I got it built from and see what can be done. I need to check my motherboard and maybe my water cooling anyway. The led has started to change colours these past few days and it never did it before (At first it was only blue, then turned greenish yellow now it's going between red and greenish yellow).
Thanks guys, hope it's nothing drastic.
I was looking at other possible GPU to replace it with but I'm stumbled as the R9 290 isn't a weak card. To get something equivalent or better from my limited research, i'd be looking at something like a gtx 970, 1060 etc for nvidia, for amd not sure yet.
The 1060 3G version would also be a near equivalent, and in the US, it's at about the same price point as the RX570 (at least at MSRP).
Is the LED on your water cooling? I know that Corsair's H coolers, for instance, if you have the software installed, you can set the LED to change color according to various things - CPU load, CPU temperature, etc.
I have the H series of corsair. There is indeed a software to change it's colours, but it never changed before, it was always blue for years. It changes to greenish yellow last six months to a year, and flipping between red and greenish yellow last couple of days that's why it worried me.
Took it to the store I got it built for checking, and to replace the motherboard's battery. Long story short, the liquid cooling was not working well, wasn't even cooling anything. Had it replaced with a normal fan for now, as in the store it was around 10+ degrees less. As for the GPU apart of the usual amd are terrible cards, he didn't see anything wrong and maybe it was due to overheating induced by the faulty liquid cooler.
I also had a couple of fans blowing the opposite side of the usual haha, but I doubt that did much trouble. Have two fans on the top, one was blowing air in, while the other was taking air out... Ops hahaha. Made them both pull air out now.
I'll see how it fares for now until I get some money, then I'll see about switching the card.
Obviously amd suck, yea nvidia are the best.
"As for the GPU apart of the usual amd are terrible cards"
I interprete that as a sidejab against people who will instantly blame AMD or pull out the ancient driver problems card.
But sarcasm is often hard to identify on the internet.
That's actually what the store technician said; "Amd suck, they overheat". I obviously disagree with him as I'm using an amd card myself heh.
What confused her was that it's not completely obvious that the 'amd sucks' part is a quote of your technician.
A video card overheating depends on both how much heat it puts out and how good of a cooling system it has. AMD has made some cards prone to overheating, such as the Radeon HD 4870 X2 (X2 meaning a dual-GPU card), but so has Nvidia, such as the GeForce GTX 590. Actually, a lot of dual-GPU cards were prone to overheating until AMD finally wised up and stuck a big liquid cooler on them.
I usually buy the parts elsewhere hehe.
GPU requires lots of power (particularly the AMD Cards**) when playing demanding Videogames.
If the PSU is dying, it won't supply the necessary power to run the GPU.
Generally though in this case the PC shuts down completely as the GPU tries to use the little power the PSU provides, starving the rest of the system (CPU).
**Unfortunately it is true AMD Cards requires more power and generally overheat more than Nvidia.
This comes from an ex AMD fanboy who is now happy with my Nvidia, less noise, less heat, less power consumption.
Hard to tell what AMD's Vega and Nvidia's next generation will bring. I will say I am very tired of paying Nvdia's premium prices and I think the buying public has a similar viewpoint due to the dearth of 580's on store shelves. Competition is good for all of us.
I know when I was checking out prices for Nvidia's 1060s in the store the other day I was a bit overwhelmed by the prices. No wonder the 580's are hard to come by. I did not even see any 1080's on the shelves and manager said they just were not selling many of them so they did not keep many in stock.
It also won't be able to heat up anything else, because the heat isn't getting moved from the CPU.
That's not to say your AIO wasn't on the way out,. or causing problems. But it was doing something, and I've not seen a CPU cause artifacting before, unless your running IGP.
Also for video cards - "generally overheating" isn't an AMD/nVidia problem. It's an vendor problem with the cooling, or an installation problem from the system builder. It equally can afflict nVidia or AMD.
AMD using more power than nVidia - depends on the card. An RX480 doesn't use more power than a 1080Ti, for instance.
If your computer is working now, great. I absolutely wouldn't go back to that guy again, for anything, unless he happens to be working drive thru fast food.
I don't know what to say, but it seems that solved the issue. He told me that artifacts can be also seen when the GPU is overheating. I don't think the CPU was doing it, but I guess the lack of proper cooling was overheating everything else. That's my assumption anyway.