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er looking to buy but heard WOW really sucks pls help .....
tanktastic
Member Posts: 45
hi,
I am considering buying WOW but have heard some bad press of late.
Is it true that the community consists of 12 year olds that often,
"grief" there fellow players? Surely trhis cannot be entirely true and
only represents a small percentage of players maybe.
Also I heard there is little if anything to do once you get to level
60 except farm for your mates and run around showing your uber
sword. Hope this is not the case since it takes some time to get there.
I heard the graphics rock but some say they look like a bad imitation
of a warner brothers,"bugs bunny" cartoon. Hhhhmm was looking so forward
to playing this popular game please persuade me otherwise, thanks.
Comments
Heya
I played WoW since beta and admittedly dont play now
I did feel that after a while it did get boring yes, and that when hitting lv 60 (which took about 3 weeks) i did get bored easily and that was the main reason for leaving, as the farming did get to me a bit.
Yes there are a minority of idiots, but likewise alot of good players that i have become good friends with.
I liked the graphics and some people say "oh too cartoony" but thats up to the individual to decide.
I would say definately give it a shot and use the 30 days free mth to see if u like.
Hope it helps
If you've heard that the game sucks, why would you be looking to buy it?
Well, there are immature and mature people but immature seem to be the majority. If you don't want to be griefed, don't play on PvP Server so you can get levels in peace and you can still pvp but only when you want to. At level 60, all you do is either farm money, pvp or run the same instances over and over again in hopes to get a piece for your class. It's a fun ride to level 60 though.
Everyone made good points. The community is not all immature, there are alot of good people playing this game. You have to find a good guild with alot of lvl 60's and you will always have help. But dont beg or whine. I dont know who told you the game sucks? Ive been playing since the stress test along time ago. I dont even have a lvl 60, I have so many characters though, I like them all in their own way. My highest is a lvl 56 gnome warrior. I decided to go horde now though and my new favorite is a 29 Undead Rouge. It really depends how much you play, on how fast you are going to lvl and or get bored. If you play everyday for 10 hours a day and get to 60 in like 2 weeks, you'll probably be burnt out quick. IMO. I love the game, and would suggest you try it.
I played for maybe 5 months, got bored at level 32, I had a human mage. Unless you want to quest good luck finding a group. & when I found groups players would just leave most of the time without a word. I found it kind of hard to level, but that might just be me. PvP is just one faction killing the other side, that is it. My opinion is a warcraft game should have better PvP.
The community is decent, you have your mature people and then the barrens chat people. Majority of the players I think are around 15-24.
The game is ridiculously easy and boring to level. In the beggining you will do quests to level, which were fun. You always get excited when you get to a new zone, there you will find another 10 quests. Four levels later, same thing, go to a new area, more quests. By the time you hit 50 there are less quests, and its more practical just to grind off mobs for a few hours. All you do when you level is upgrade spells and equiptment. After level 30 you really dont get any new spells unless its a talent.
At level 60 all you can really do is do instances to try to get your end game equiptment. Most likely you will have to roll over the item you want with 4 people. Other then instances, all you really can do is raid towns, or do battle grounds. Most likely it will be battlegrounds.
Battlegrounds was fun in the beggining, but later it becomes really repitisous with no challenge. It has potential to be good, but the two maps that were just released aren't that great. I never played alterac but I watched my friends at their house. You just get zerged by alliance, I don't think that was how Blizzard intended battlegrounds from the start.
I liked the graphics, they were very warcraft. They are a bit cartoonish at times, like scarlet monestary looks like something you would see in a cartoon movie. The whole game looks a bit like disney for some reason, but thats just my opinion. But overall the graphics are nice and colorful.
The main reason I don't like WoW is because my idea of fun isnt grinding off mobs, or sitting 3 hours in a instance grinding off more mobs, to eventually at the end loose a roll to some guy that doesn't even really need the item. I was lucky enough to have RL friends that could fun me through early on.
Im waiting for a game thats more in depth with more content. MMORPGS have alot more potential and shouldn't just consist of PVE and PVP. I would save your money and wait for a better game. I think we are getting close to a big release in the mmorpg industry.
WoW is probably the most worth your money mmo out tere right now, but don't make the mistake I made. I played for 3+ hours a day for a few months and was burnt out when i had 2 lvl 60s. The end-game doesn't ave enough to keep you glued unless youre in a big guild, and even then its the same dungeons. Stll, a great buy and worth the money for a few months.
If you have the money is suggest playing both World of Warcraft and Guild Wars on the side. (Yes peopel quit bitching about which is better, GW is free so it compliments Wow!) When I play GW its fun but it makes me want to play WoW again when you get bored of it. After taking a 2 month break from WoW im ready to go back =D
I do not think Wow is a good buy at all. Its almost exactly the same as any other mmo in the market right now. Its just another EQ clone that we have seen for the past few years.
You could say that any mmorpg is a good buy, since the first month is usually fun. Once you get past the first half of the levels, you start to see the games good and bads. With WoW, it was lack of content, horrible server maintence, Blizzard takes forever to release anything new, instanes were boring and too long, and pvp was decent.
I guess if you are desperate to play a new mmo, then pick up EQ2 or WoW, but don't be expecting alot.
I wouldn't recommend WoW and GW at the same time, the two are too close. Try WoW or GW plus a more immersive experience, like DAOC or AC. Depends on why you're gaming (PvP? Mass PvP? Sieges? Solo? Group? Raid? To be immersed in another world's environment and lore? Roleplay?).
hmm,
I think it also depends how experienced of a gamer you are. See I was never really into games but then my husband started playing WoW and convinced me to play too and I quickly got addictd. I've tried others but none have captured me quite like WoW.
I'd say go to a friends house who has it, build a char and play for an hour or three and see how you like it!
Lyoness
Founder, GamerWidow.com
Currently a WoW Widow
WoW an EQ clone? Not even close, whatever you are smoking you should stop, its rotting your brain.
First, I like WoW, so dont think I'm trying to bash the game, but, Huba, exactly what do you think is different from EQ in WoW? WoW is (mostly) just an enhance and upgraded version of EQ...aside from the Battlegrounds.
Ive played WoW since release and decided to quit a few weeks ago, but couldnt after about 9days of not playing i got kinda bored and started back up. Wow is a good all around game I think, its easy to get to lvl 60, but takes time to get geared up once you hit lvl 60. Also pvp is tons of fun, i dont care what you say.BG's might be lacking a little bit, but there is nothing more fun then getting a friend thats good at pvping and going out into the oposing factions territory looking for fights, theres somthing about killing a group of horde that out number us that gives me a warm fuzzy fealing inside. Out of all the mmorpg's ive played id say WoW is the best, unless your the kind of guy who likes grinding endless hours to lvl up then it might not be for you.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
Get WoW. It's awsome. Oh yeah, I heard about an expansion with new goodies.....if u really want, u can wait for that to come out.
They have 2,000,000 or more players now, which is unheard of for a North American MMORPG and pretty much challenges the subscription levels of Asian MMORPG's, so I would think they'd have to have a healthy population of teens mixed in there. However, other than P vs P, I have found little to no griefing. Folks are very helpful, will buff you running past, and will sometimes intervene to save you if you pulled too tough a monster. Very friendly community, but I cannot comment on P vs P servers (maybe that's where the rudeness is).
My wife made it to level 60 and she says there is still plenty to do. One thing about this game world is you have lots of zones to experience, but once you do all a zone's quests you're pretty much finished with it and move on, unlike some earlier MMORPG's where you often go back to old zones for whatever reasons. This gives the feeling less of a MMORPG and more of an online RPG sometimes. Everyone has something to do, but they're all doing it solo for the most part.
It took me months to get over the cartoonish graphics. Not as bad as "Bugs Bunny", but only a few notches up the ladder. Think of that old "Darkstone" game in the late 90's and those are the graphics you're dealing with.
The world graphics are breath-taking, though somewhat cartoonish. My jaw drops on some of the zones I've entered; thinking how could they have made this game so vast and awe-inspiring.
Summary: WOW is not the end-all MMORPG I'm looking for (really waiting for Vanguard to come out next year), BUT is a great game to hang out in until something better comes out. Few people are disappointed by WOW; it's a fun, easy, no hassles game.
First off, I don't think you need to be so offensive. What I have written shouldn't be offending anyone, its just a simple opinion.
EQ, UO, and D&D is three of the most influencial games for the mmorpg industry. They came up with the ideas of PVE, classes, skills, currency, etc. Most games have copied many of the ideas, since they have proved to be successful and reasonable, but does that mean that they have to be the only ideas?
So, how is WoW any different? Have they made any new innovative ideas? Have they influenced the future of mmos in any unique way? No, its just another massively multiplay online game, with better improvements of mmorpgs first game mechanics.
All WoW offers that is new is the story line, which any game can accomplish.
A large amount of us players want to see something new, something that we haven't been seing for the past 6 years. The future mmorpgs should not consist of grinding endlessly off of mobs, gaining that new level, getting that new sword with 1 more dps.
What amazes me is that WoW, a game with nothing new to offer, has managed to suck 15 dollars out of 3.5 million players, and all they work on to improve the game is trying to get their horrible servers to be at least playable, and balance each of the classes over and over. Nerfing one, overpowering another, and so on. They haven't even made a new class for christs sake, so why is it such a concern to balance the classes if they have been the same since release?
Now tell me, how is WoW a better game then the rest, how does it offer anything new to the advancement of mmorpgs. And don't tell me im rotting my brain out.
Wow is extremely fun. At least to start with! The path to lvl 60 (max lvl) consists of numberous quests that'll bring you all over the world and into dungeons fighting monsters and getting magic items.
Wow is also a very easy game to play and requires little to none skill. Since you dont lose exp when you die you'll eventually get to 60 nomatter how bad you play. The sad part of this is that every retard and his brother can get to 60.
At 60 you havent got much to do that farm the same (6 to 10 man groups) mobs again and again and again till you get your class specific drop of said mob or you can go raid in huge (like 40 people) raids for harder monsters and "phat lewt". If you have a good guild with people willing to help its no problem. Else you have to go with random groups and pickup raids where you risk meeting the retardars and their brothers and the problems connected to getting into that kind of groups like people having no idea of what their class is supposed to do in a group, people fighting over minor loot and leaving because of it just before the final boss, people leaving halfway through a dungeon because "their mother have just announced supper".
If you get into a good guild its no problem. If you dont you'll eventually get fed up with wasting hour after hour finding groups, fighting (and I really mean fighting since you and others will have to make up for some players lack of skill) through dungeons and fail halfway through because the rogue just had to go look around the corner and pull those 3 chained mobs instead of helping finishing the 4 you were already fighting.
Like some other poster wrote I belive the main part of the players being between 14 and 20. Most of these have never played a game where coorperation and teamwork meant anything and since you can solo all the way to lvl 60 (you'll miss some of the dungeons but thats all) most of them still havent learned it at 60. The general chat often consists of the "kiddies" talking "l33wt-sp34k" or fighting over who has the biggest e-penis and with time you just learn to ignore it (well you have to since your ignore list only can have that many people on it).
If you're really unlucky (like I was to start with), you start a character on one of the ENGLISH servers that some nation have taken over (swedes, spaniards, russians just to name a few). Here the general chat mostly is some heathen gibberish that you cant understand at all and you risk beging kicked out of groups (should you be invited at all) because you dont speak the right language.
Should you pick a PvP server (where the two fractions can fight eachother) there are several things you'll have to be aware of. First of all the balance between the two fractions. On some servers there is a HUGE inbalance between them. I've heard upto 70% of players belonging to one fraction leaving 30% to the other. This means that you either will have a hard time finding someone to fight or that you'll be the target of every enemy-player while you try to do quests. Corpsecamping is not an uncommon thing and you'll get tired of being killed by the same (often 20 lvls higher than yourself) person again and again... Some servers has a better balance but its something you'll have to check out before picking one.
The GM's are almost nonexistant and should you get a reply (mostly by email) its almost always "we'll look into it" or "we can't do anything about that". That and the huge amount of "korean" gold farmers selling gold and items on the web, web-sites where you can find hacks (just try using Google and search for "wow hacks" to get an idea) already have ruined the gameplay and economy in WoW. So far Blizzard has done nothing or at least very little to sort this out!
Still a lot of people love Wow. Most of the defenders of the game I've talked to are casual players that still hasnt hit 60 with their first character and who still have fun doing the quests, talk to their friends and whatnot. For me this game is over. Gotten 2 characters to lvl 60 and that was at least 1 to many!
First off, I don't think you need to be so offensive. What I have written shouldn't be offending anyone, its just a simple opinion.
EQ, UO, and D&D is three of the most influencial games for the mmorpg industry. They came up with the ideas of PVE, classes, skills, currency, etc. Most games have copied many of the ideas, since they have proved to be successful and reasonable, but does that mean that they have to be the only ideas?
So, how is WoW any different? Have they made any new innovative ideas? Have they influenced the future of mmos in any unique way? No, its just another massively multiplay online game, with better improvements of mmorpgs first game mechanics.
All WoW offers that is new is the story line, which any game can accomplish.
A large amount of us players want to see something new, something that we haven't been seing for the past 6 years. The future mmorpgs should not consist of grinding endlessly off of mobs, gaining that new level, getting that new sword with 1 more dps.
What amazes me is that WoW, a game with nothing new to offer, has managed to suck 15 dollars out of 3.5 million players, and all they work on to improve the game is trying to get their horrible servers to be at least playable, and balance each of the classes over and over. Nerfing one, overpowering another, and so on. They haven't even made a new class for christs sake, so why is it such a concern to balance the classes if they have been the same since release?
Now tell me, how is WoW a better game then the rest, how does it offer anything new to the advancement of mmorpgs. And don't tell me im rotting my brain out.
while it might seems at first sight that EQ and WoW are similar, they aren't.
All you said about WoW being an enahcned and enriched EQ is true. you won't find many revolutions in WoW. It is an evolution game and... it is EQ made right.
i think the most important thing Blizzard did with WoW was to throw away the concept "the first 59 levels are a sort of training ground to weed out (weed out???) the "casuals", only when you get to 60, you can really appreciate the game".
WoW is fun from level 1. No waiting for the "better game", no hideously long wait time for not much purpose but making you play for more. nope. they took most of the downtime and grind of other games and simply decided they could do without it.
It is a blizzard game. it is complete, didn't come with unstable servers, crashing clients, not working parts. Nope, it was one of the few MMorpgs in which the Beta population wasn't saying "this game is not ready to be played and won't be for other XX months". It has a level of polished unmatched in a newly releasead game (but from CoH that is on a much smaller scale tough).
The world is colorful, wide and full of surprises and blizzard touches. The graphics manages to run on a low end machine and STILL be awesome.
In addition the Quest system, second biggest difference from EQ, is very complete and detailed giving you purpose. It might seems there is no difference between killing kobolds just for it and killing kobolds because XXXX told you so, but there is. Especially as WoW quests are very focused and, beside some epic exceptions than tend to be divided in small parts anyway, can be completed in an half an hour-1 hour tops.
the interface is a dream comes true. You do not need hours to read a manual just to start, all seems so intuitive that you have to ask yourself "why they never come up with this before??" Still the game has deepness. 9 classes might seems few, but they all play VERY differently from each other, all of them has dozens and dozens of skills and spells and abilities giving them a whole wide of stuff they can do.
The music is also very inspiring and appropriate to the setting. Just enter Ironforge or Stormwind and you will see (hear?) what i am speaking about.
So, what is wrong with WoW? It IS a online game. It doesn't try to emulate a fantasy world or be very realistic. People seeking a realistic representation ala Ultima Online or EVE will be disappointed. But if you can take it for what it is, then it is loads of fun. It is also mainstream/casual oriented. Hardcore people burning trough it, might find themselves empty after a mere month or two. But for everyone else... it is definitly worth a try.
Oh. almost forgot. a Revolution in WoW there is: it brought the MMorpg niche genre to the general gaming population. 3.5 millions of account worldwide. almost a million in NA alone. and this without collapsing SOE empire or NCSoft's. So most of those people are NEW players. people that never played a MMorpg before. This will influence positevly all the market and maybe will push more companies to care as much for their products as Blizzard does and not releasing half-assed stuff that need 6 months of patches before being even remotely playable.
Have a nice day
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
Well atfter reading your post, I see that WoW is the right game for you. But there are some of use that are seeking much more. I don't want to have to fight endless mobs any more, I dont want my personal skill to be based off of how much time I play and what level I am. There can be more to an online game. PVE and PVP as I have said before, shouldn't be the only aspects of a game.
The main reason I am attracted to DnL is because you can build an empire, have several mounts, larger scale battles, ranking systems within cities, trying to get people attracted to hunting in your land, etc.
This is what I mean when I say that I want something more out of mmorpgs, I don't mean that I want a new PVE system or a PVP system, I just want to be able to do more, and not feel like im wasting my time gaining new levels.
Some people will be attracted to the mainstream game like WoW, EQ2, and so on. But once a good true game developer comes out with a new innovative creative game, most people will flock there.
"WoW is fun from level 1. No waiting for the "better game", no hideously long wait time for not much purpose but making you play for more. nope. they took most of the downtime and grind of other games and simply decided they could do without it."
I'm waiting on someone to tell me what the purpose of going through the grind (if you don't see it then you're blind) only finding out that there is no reason to PvP. There is no risk/reward.
"It is a blizzard game."
Which is the only reason why it didn't fail horribly; it had the fanbase before it was even launched. Kudos to Blizzard for selling out and making a crappy game to please the masses.
" it is complete, didn't come with unstable servers, crashing clients, not working parts. Nope, it was one of the few MMorpgs in which the Beta population wasn't saying "this game is not ready to be played and won't be for other XX months". It has a level of polished unmatched in a newly releasead game (but from CoH that is on a much smaller scale tough)."
I'm going to assume you didn't play the first three or so months. Lag spikes, server crashes, and many "not working parts" were abundant a la broken and unfinished quests and zones that people got banned for setting a foot in, intentional (yes, there were some who got bugged in there without wanting) or not.
"A large amount of us players want to see something new, something that we haven't been seing for the past 6 years. The future mmorpgs should not consist of grinding endlessly off of mobs, gaining that new level, getting that new sword with 1 more dps."
Wow,(no pun intended) I am really bewildered here. That is exactally what WoW is. Yesterday I spent 2 and a half hours (non-stop) killing Satyrs to collect 16 hornes. One would call that "grinding endlessly"
Yes, I do play WoW. I played the first few months and recently reactivated my account. I like to know about games and why they suck, not take some fanboi or anti-fanboi's word about it.
"The world is colorful, wide and full of surprises and blizzard touches."
Yes, this is the best thing Blizzard has done with WoW-they filled it with as many little, cool features as they could. Tumbs up there. I always said, the perfect MMO would be one that took Shadowbanes open PvP environment, put it togather with Lineage II style graphics (about all that game was good for - but I did wet myself even in the character creator) and added in all the little (seemingly useless, but oh so important) elements that WoW has.
"Still the game has deepness. 9 classes might seems few, but they all play VERY differently from each other, all of them has dozens and dozens of skills and spells and abilities giving them a whole wide of stuff they can do."
WoW has no "deepness" whatsoever. I hate to sound rude, but the character creation and development is a bombshell. Here is a list of what makes one Night Elf Hunter different then another: Hair color, body color, armor, weapons and...that's it. Sure you can go into talent tree's all you want, but in each one paths are spread out so simple it's not even funny. The biggeset different between one character in WoW is the player who had the most time to play and got that shiny purple-named weapon wins.
"The music is also very inspiring and appropriate to the setting. Just enter Ironforge or Stormwind and you will see (hear?) what i am speaking about."
Music was also done nice.
Ten years from now, WoW is going to be regarded as one of the, if not the best MMORPG of all time. "With it's huge playerbase, how can it not be good?" will be the main argument from corporate game fakes who know nothing about gaming. The 3.5 million subscribers will attest to it's greatness, more then half of those only buying the game because of it's namesake, a quarter of them because of their friends, and the last quarter will have actually liked the game.
But from people who know what makes and breaks a game, WoW is a flop. The lack of a risk/reward system is downright appaling making anything you accomplish seem worthless when you look at the big picture. The cookie cutter character development system is just a cop-out for a company who either didn't want to take the time for true balance, or didn't know how. The developer-consumer relation is absent at best, instead the send their "blue" lapdogs to mod their forums and feed info to the community whenever they feel convienient. All in all, WoW is a joke; it's the pop artist of gaming who's voice has been remixed ten times over, ready to be thrown to the curb when the fanbois have seen some new eye-candy.