The Nine Voices Of The Star Citizen Debate.

Cotic

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.

To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.

@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).

How can it be slander/libel if he said/wrote it himself?

Erillion

Kefo said:

You do realize that the goons don't care right?

I observe. I compile.

Goons do care. More than people think. They are human ... okay, with SOME i am not 100 % sure  ;-)  ....

But coming back to the topic .. the "nine voices" is just another propaganda piece. As usual. Neither complete nor unbiased. The wording is specific, to incite ... and then incite some more. Typical Goon. Predictable. Schematical.



Have fun

Kefo

Erillion said:

Kefo said:

You do realize that the goons don't care right?

I observe. I compile.

Goons do care. More than people think. They are human ... okay, with SOME i am not 100 % sure  ;-)  ....



Have fun

If I'm trolling you I only care about eliciting a response out of you. You want to win any argument with a troll you don't respond at all. 

Your observe and compile statement is just more lols for the goon fire

MaxBacon

Cotic said:
How can it be slander/libel if he said/wrote it himself?

The fact you needed to bring it up uncalled for several times already since you're here, as the way you put it shows ill intent.

The intent shows to be to humiliate and laugh at him from the start, there's no other reason to bring it up in the first place.

Kefo

MaxBacon said:

Cotic said:
How can it be slander/libel if he said/wrote it himself?

The fact you needed to bring it up uncalled for several times already since you're here on this very specific spinning towards him.

The way you put it shows ill intent.

The intent shows to be to humiliate and laugh at him from the start, there's no other reason to bring it up in the first place for me.

Or to say that his statement about not belonging on the wheel could be false considering the amount of money he's dropped on the project

MaxBacon

Kefo said:

Or to say that his statement about not belonging on the wheel could be false considering the amount of money he's dropped on the project

Nah, there's no reason to bring it up in the first place when this isn't even the first time he has snipped him like that about the amount of money he has spent on SC.

If this was a first time sure, but it's not and if the last time already felt rather personal, this just confirms it.

Kefo

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

Or to say that his statement about not belonging on the wheel could be false considering the amount of money he's dropped on the project

Nah, there's no reason to bring it up in the first place when this isn't even the first time he has snipped him like that about the amount of money he has spent on SC.

If this was a first time sure, but it's not and if the last time already felt rather personal, this just confirms it.

Doesn't confirm anything. It was relevant to the conversation. If they don't want it to be brought up then don't announce to everyone how much you've spent on a video game or just answer the question and move on. Doing this just draws more attention to it.

MaxBacon

Kefo said:

Doesn't confirm anything. It was relevant to the conversation. If they don't want it to be brought up then don't announce to everyone how much you've spent on a video game or just answer the question and move on. Doing this just draws more attention to it.

It wasn't and I do not find that behavior OK, we could really use less snipping.

I know you'll never admit it, but the last time he went on him the across was quite clear he was trying to discredit him because of the amount of money he has spent on the project.

That is as ridiculous as the ones who go around with the "What I think is more important than you think because I have spent more money.".

Kefo

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

Doesn't confirm anything. It was relevant to the conversation. If they don't want it to be brought up then don't announce to everyone how much you've spent on a video game or just answer the question and move on. Doing this just draws more attention to it.

It wasn't and I do not find that behavior OK, we could really use less snipping.

I know you'll never admit it, but the last time he went on him the across was quite clear he was trying to discredit him because of the amount of money he has spent on the project.

That is as ridiculous as the ones who go around with the "What I think is more important than you think because I have spent more money.".

Why would I admit it? I don't care how much money someone spent on a video game, it's their money. But if they start trying to act like a victim when someone brings up that amount then I start to take notice

Cotic

MaxBacon said:

Cotic said:
How can it be slander/libel if he said/wrote it himself?

The fact you needed to bring it up uncalled for several times already since you're here, as the way you put it shows ill intent.

The intent shows to be to humiliate and laugh at him from the start, there's no other reason to bring it up in the first place.

If we were to assume it was ill-intent, that is still far different than making up lies about someone or telling untruths.

One could counter that claiming I am being slanderous when I am not is telling an untruth.

Kefo

Cotic said:

MaxBacon said:

Cotic said:
How can it be slander/libel if he said/wrote it himself?

The fact you needed to bring it up uncalled for several times already since you're here, as the way you put it shows ill intent.

The intent shows to be to humiliate and laugh at him from the start, there's no other reason to bring it up in the first place.

If we were to assume it was ill-intent, that is still far different than making up lies about someone or telling untruths.

One could counter that claiming I am being slanderous when I am not is telling an untruth.

There's a word for that in legal terms but I can't recall it right now

MaxBacon

Kefo said:
Why would I admit it? I don't care how much money someone spent on a video game, it's their money. But if they start trying to act like a victim when someone brings up that amount then I start to take notice

You might not, He does.

The snipe to shame and humiliate the user is the message that comes considering the same user felt the same need to bring that up on a topic that had nothing to do with it, there's clearly something personal there between them that should be kept out of the discussions.

MaxBacon

Cotic said:

If we were to assume it was ill-intent, that is still far different than making up lies about someone or telling untruths.

One could counter that claiming I am being slanderous when I am not is telling an untruth.

I'm not talking his response, I'm talking about your behavior. You're focusing in the response to excuse your first instigation.

You want to bring that up intentionally, it's not just "coming up".

Kefo

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:
Why would I admit it? I don't care how much money someone spent on a video game, it's their money. But if they start trying to act like a victim when someone brings up that amount then I start to take notice

You might not, He does.

The snipe to shame and humiliate the user is the message that comes considering the same user felt the same need to bring that up on a topic that had nothing to do with it, there's clearly something personal there between them that should be kept out of the discussions.

Are you trying to infer something that you have no idea about? How can you say there's clearly something going on when you aren't either of the posters? 

I don't see it as a way to humiliate the person and it would only come across that way if the person who spent the money feels humiliated they spent that much in the first place. 

Know the the easiest way to kill this off? They don't play the victim card and say yup that's how much I spent!

MaxBacon

Kefo said:

Are you trying to infer something that you have no idea about? How can you say there's clearly something going on when you aren't either of the posters? 

I don't see it as a way to humiliate the person and it would only come across that way if the person who spent the money feels humiliated they spent that much in the first place. 

Know the the easiest way to kill this off? They don't play the victim card and say yup that's how much I spent!

You only see what you want to see.

Excession

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

Are you trying to infer something that you have no idea about? How can you say there's clearly something going on when you aren't either of the posters? 

I don't see it as a way to humiliate the person and it would only come across that way if the person who spent the money feels humiliated they spent that much in the first place. 

Know the the easiest way to kill this off? They don't play the victim card and say yup that's how much I spent!

You only see what you want to see.

Case of the Kettle calling the Pot black.

Kefo

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

Are you trying to infer something that you have no idea about? How can you say there's clearly something going on when you aren't either of the posters? 

I don't see it as a way to humiliate the person and it would only come across that way if the person who spent the money feels humiliated they spent that much in the first place. 

Know the the easiest way to kill this off? They don't play the victim card and say yup that's how much I spent!

You only see what you want to see.

I'll just turn it around and say the same to you....see how easy that is? 

How about we stick to the content at hand instead of trying to hand wave it away?

bartoni33

Kefo said:

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.

To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.

@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).

It's only libel (slander is spoken word so unless they are speaking to each other then it's libel) if what he says causes damage to their reputation. Since that would be an impossibility in a forum where you are mostly anonymous then no libel is happening and really we are just laughing at his poor attempts to play the victim

You caught that too I see.

What you didn't catch was where I posted that way up this page.

I would disagree on the impossibility of libel here because his account here is tied to at least one other account with RL info. But lets let the lawyers hash it out shall we?

EDIT: Holy crap now it's 2 pages back! You guys are stepping up the forum PvP! I like it!

Kefo

bartoni33 said:

Kefo said:

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.

To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.

@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).

It's only libel (slander is spoken word so unless they are speaking to each other then it's libel) if what he says causes damage to their reputation. Since that would be an impossibility in a forum where you are mostly anonymous then no libel is happening and really we are just laughing at his poor attempts to play the victim

You caught that too I see.

What you didn't catch was where I posted that way up this page.

I would disagree on the impossibility of libel here because his account here is tied to at least one other account with RL info. But lets let the lawyers hash it out shall we?

Just shows we think the same way

MaxBacon

bartoni33 said:
But lets let the lawyers hash it out shall we?

This an internet forum, use the correct term, armchair lawyers.

Cotic

MaxBacon said:

Cotic said:

If we were to assume it was ill-intent, that is still far different than making up lies about someone or telling untruths.

One could counter that claiming I am being slanderous when I am not is telling an untruth.

I'm not talking his response, I'm talking about your behavior. You're focusing in the response to excuse your first instigation.

You want to bring that up intentionally, it's not just "coming up".

Eh? I had already said that I would not mention it again and I haven't. Yet for some odd reason you keep on wanting to talk about it.

It is none of your business so kindly keep your nose out.

bartoni33

Kefo said:

bartoni33 said:

Kefo said:

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.

To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.

@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).

It's only libel (slander is spoken word so unless they are speaking to each other then it's libel) if what he says causes damage to their reputation. Since that would be an impossibility in a forum where you are mostly anonymous then no libel is happening and really we are just laughing at his poor attempts to play the victim

You caught that too I see.

What you didn't catch was where I posted that way up this page.

I would disagree on the impossibility of libel here because his account here is tied to at least one other account with RL info. But lets let the lawyers hash it out shall we?

Just shows we think the same way

Not sure you want to be painted with that brush.

MaxBacon

Cotic said:

Eh? I had already said that I would not mention it again and I haven't. Yet for some odd reason you keep on wanting to talk about it.

It is none of your business so kindly keep your nose out.

I replied to Kefo's dirty nose on it, but as you also stand a point on that, pink nose is out.

Kefo

bartoni33 said:

Kefo said:

bartoni33 said:

Kefo said:

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.

To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.

@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).

It's only libel (slander is spoken word so unless they are speaking to each other then it's libel) if what he says causes damage to their reputation. Since that would be an impossibility in a forum where you are mostly anonymous then no libel is happening and really we are just laughing at his poor attempts to play the victim

You caught that too I see.

What you didn't catch was where I posted that way up this page.

I would disagree on the impossibility of libel here because his account here is tied to at least one other account with RL info. But lets let the lawyers hash it out shall we?

Just shows we think the same way

Not sure you want to be painted with that brush.

Lol eh I tend to not care what people think of me so they can paint me with whatever brush they want and I'll laugh along

bartoni33

Kefo said:

bartoni33 said:

Kefo said:

bartoni33 said:

Kefo said:

MaxBacon said:

Kefo said:

lol love it when someone is shown proof of what they said and they still try to play the victim.

To be fair there's a rather circle-jerking behavior on this.

@Cotic brought that uncalled for what hints me it's about slander @Vikingir, I really don't see a reason to pursue such (because it's not the first time he has a go at him in this forum because of how much money he has spent).

It's only libel (slander is spoken word so unless they are speaking to each other then it's libel) if what he says causes damage to their reputation. Since that would be an impossibility in a forum where you are mostly anonymous then no libel is happening and really we are just laughing at his poor attempts to play the victim

You caught that too I see.

What you didn't catch was where I posted that way up this page.

I would disagree on the impossibility of libel here because his account here is tied to at least one other account with RL info. But lets let the lawyers hash it out shall we?

Just shows we think the same way

Not sure you want to be painted with that brush.

Lol eh I tend to not care what people think of me so they can paint me with whatever brush they want and I'll laugh along

Yep we do think the same way.