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What's Up with Gazillion? Nobody Seems to Know, But Rumors Swirl - Marvel Heroes News

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    Torval said:
    @maskedweasel Do you have a link to that reddit thread? I'd like to read it.
    here's the link to the actual thread 

    https://www.reddit.com/r/marvelheroes/comments/7a0tpj/hey_marvel_hey_disney_you_should_look_into_the/

    and here's doomsaws comments specifically

    https://www.reddit.com/user/doomsaw-gazillion

    Breviks comments are around the 1:36 to 1:50 of this video

    https://go.twitch.tv/videos/184127297




  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    Torval said:
    Thanks! Interesting read. His comments about Destiny 2, Lost Ark, LoL ARPG, etc are interesting. He's kind of hardcore. I wonder if he's in the middle of a project. It would nice to see him involved with something that isn't saddled with a bunch of IP chains and royalty pressures.
    Supposedly he is doing a one man project.  Pixel art.. not sure on the rest of the details, but at least he's doing something. 
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  • JeffSpicoliJeffSpicoli Member EpicPosts: 2,849
    edited November 2017
    Anyone else feel like another great IP wasted on the wrong genre ? Its like all the best IP's (Game of thrones, Star Wars, Marvel) get made into shit games!
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    thunderC said:
    Anyone else feel like another great IP wasted on the wrong genre ? Its like all the best IP's (Game of thrones, Star Wars, Marvel) get made into shit games!
    I think the genre was fine.. ARPG just like the Marvel Ultimate Alliance games,  I just think they backed the wrong horse for development.
    Aeander



  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,059
    Based on reddit comments by former lead Doomsaw, the PC version will be shuttering.  I don't know the status of the console versions though.  They clearly don't have top notch developers or designers.  I won't really miss this game very much. 

    Good luck getting players to trust you with future games Mr. CEBro.
  • KonfessKonfess Member RarePosts: 1,667
    Konfess said:
    SBFord said:
    JakeSim said:
    Game is just bad now. Dying, been dying on pc at least. Gg end of story. Sad because I love Marvel
    Honestly, it's so much more...so MUCH more....than just the game. I'm...stunned. Literally. I can't believe Disney and Marvel haven't stepped in to get the company in order.
    No, I have no inside information. But, don't you think They have?  The Story reads to me like the plug has been pulled, the office if empty and there is no one at the wheel any more.  Whoever has the job of getting the word out that operations are over, has failed.

    Dohrmann's alleged behavior may be the root cause.  Focus may be only on dealing with this issue and not the game.  Meaning money is now going only to lawyers and potentially settlements.

    There is zero info that there were even layoffs, which would be expected if the plug was pulled.
    Based on reddit comments by former lead Doomsaw, the PC version will be shuttering.  I don't know the status of the console versions though.  They clearly don't have top notch developers or designers.  I won't really miss this game very much. 

    Good luck getting players to trust you with future games Mr. CEBro.
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    As if it could exist, without being payed for.
    F2P means you get what you paid for. Pay nothing, get nothing.
    Even telemarketers wouldn't think that.
    It costs money to play.  Therefore P2W.

  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    DMKano said:
    Torval said:
    Thanks! Interesting read. His comments about Destiny 2, Lost Ark, LoL ARPG, etc are interesting. He's kind of hardcore. I wonder if he's in the middle of a project. It would nice to see him involved with something that isn't saddled with a bunch of IP chains and royalty pressures.


    Any mmo-arpg hybrid is doomed in the west - I've been saying this for over a year. 

    Western gamers love ARPGs like PoE/Diablo series/Grim dawn - which all have oodles of gear and build options.

    That's why mmo-arpg hybrids do so poorly - they are limited in gear and have very few build/skills options.

    This is why Lost Ark is doomed in the west - limited systems, limited replayability


    That's fairly contradictory. You say they are doomed in the west, and then name ARPGs... one that is specifically an mmo-arpg hybrid in Path of Exile, which has done really well.
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  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    Hooboy... that would be sad to see this game go, especially over something like that...

    Seriously, is it REALLY that hard for some people to keep their hands and their lady-bit thoughts to themselves? I mean, I've never worked in a workplace full of Sophia Vergara's, but I've worked in places with women I've certainly been attracted to. And someway, somehow I managed to pull it off without any "David Coppafeel" moments. Apparently that's a miracle? Has the bar been so low, all this time?
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  • FrodoFraginsFrodoFragins Member EpicPosts: 6,059
    Interesting supposed inside info(that sounds completely legit)

    https://forums.marvelheroesomega.com/discussion/10750/interesting-news-update-bring-on-the-von-doom-and-gloom

    I pinged a coworker who has GAZ as his account to ask how they're doing. I tried to keep the convo business related.

    Response:

    "Ketchup! haha. I was informed they underachieved by a fair margin against their Q3 benchmarks..."

    "...its a cluster Ketchup! over there. His budget was placed on hold. No external funds (he means to my company) will be approved until internal issues are resolved.."

    " ..No, but he did state rumors are swirling regarding game assets being liquidated to recoup funds. Imagine the mess of legal formalities between Marvel and investors. I expect a resolution many months down the road.."

    Interpret as you will.

    ===================

    A few extra things to consider:

    1. Q3 ends at the end of Sept.
    2. Dorman skips the live stream that was planned weeks in advance due to "last min conflicts". As I posted before, this simply does not happen. A CEO's schedule is at minimum set a week in advance to make sure there are no conflicts. He either dodged it on purpose and this was the excuse we were given, or there was some form of "emergency" that week.
    3. He made his account private on the 11th of Oct...the same day he skipped the live stream.
    4. Changes to OP were announced on the 13th.
    5. There has been no communication not only on these forums, but also no responding/promo tweets sent out AT ALL since Oct 22nd.
    6. No Thor Ragnarok event or mentions of the Halloween event that have nothing to do with OP. Missing a huge Marvel movie is a major red flag.
    7. Marvel games sent out a tweet yesterday related to their games/Thor and MHO was not mentioned in it https://twitter.com/MarvelGames/status/926144821403648000
    8. Two tenured employees working on MHO forums left in the same week. Sorry but this is not a mere coincidence.
    9. Xbox store shows the Thor/Hulk OP pack as December 31st...2018! This is simply a placeholder.
    10. In GAZ the statement on PC forums, note they said "Gazillion" is functioning per normal. More important is what they did not mention..this game itself.

    If Dorman had to decide between his new game, or this game that he inherited, I would guess he wants to go with his own "new game" instead. Three Card Monte anyone? Feels to me CEBro just took our money (and time) and jumped ship to his plan B.





  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    This looks really, really bad.

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  • Tiamat64Tiamat64 Member RarePosts: 1,545
    edited November 2017
    They tossed a good chunk of the theorycrafting out the window with the "biggest update ever" which simplified hero skill builds.  Sure, at that point the meta was such that most players used cookie cutter builds anyways but a GOOD development studio would have balanced the game so there was no need for cookie cutter builds rather than make it so you could ONLY use cookie cutter builds and nothing else.
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  • GoonieOfDoomGoonieOfDoom Member CommonPosts: 1
    reguardless of whats is or isn't happening behind the scenes its an embarrassment to Disney an Marvel as a whole on how gazillion has been allowed to continuely mislead, neglect, an blatantly lie to the players an fans of this game... the audacity of the devs upon players genuine queries an concerns just on the site forums should be punished by firing them.. the game would not exist if not for the player/fans.. gazillion brought it on themselves an all the players that supported them to the point of in game harassment an bullying just because a player was displeased an rightfully so for any number of issues... I for one had played since day one.. an seen the community become so toxic that literally couldn't be logged for more than 1min an someone is getting critisied or bad mouthed because they where asking a legitmate question.. tbh I think gaz should crawl back from what ever rock it was under an forgo any other future privilege opportunity.. since they obviously squandered an pissed this great opportunity away.. let a more professional an talented company bring us the game we deserve ..with the respect an attitude that all marvel fans/players deserve not just a dollar sign with no intelligence to insult... funny now that guys like me can say.. we told u so about year ago when BUE came an yet again screwed the players.. now those players that harassed an defended gaz can feel even better together since u are the only ones playing the game lol... priceless... sure ur attitudes will change when either square enix or other highly respected company brings to the top a true ultimate alliance/diablo style marvel game.. hoping that ppl will except u after ur actions in marvel omega... I for one wont.. leopard doesn't change its spots.. but a game does... gazillion has embarrassed marvel and Disney long enuff along with the disrespecting of the players... also glad to see them go along with their sad attempt of keepin an old ass engine an mechanics.. not that they ever did settle on anything more than 8 months at a time.. lol im sure Disney an marvel will not be making that mistake again.. in the end... the players will always dictate the success of games not the other way around like gaz tried to force.. see where that got u gaz? :D nuff said! lol unbelievable...
  • postlarvalpostlarval Member EpicPosts: 2,003
    SBFord said:

    So quiet, in fact, that players and fans are beginning to speculate what might be going on behind the scenes, none of it good either.

    *gasp*

    Fans speculate without any information whatsoever and it's negative?

    Color me shocked.

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  • Octagon7711Octagon7711 Member LegendaryPosts: 9,004
    This is the only thing official I've seen, nothing about a closing today.

    Official Statement from Gazillion
    AgentPilot
    We’re sad to inform our players and our entire Marvel Heroes family that Marvel Heroes Omega will be shutting down. The Marvel Heroes servers will stay on until Dec 31, 2017, and we’ll be removing real money purchases as soon as possible. Players will be able to play the game entirely for free once this sunset period commences. We will share the exact date things go completely free as soon as we can.

    We’ve had the privilege of entertaining and collaborating with our players for over four years. We’re extremely humbled by that privilege and wanted to get this message out: Thank you. Thank you to our players, our tireless employees, and everyone involved in the life of Marvel Heroes, Marvel Heroes 2015, Marvel Heroes 2016, and Marvel Heroes Omega.
    November 15
    https://forums.marvelheroes.com/discussion/330038/official-statement-from-gazillion/p1

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