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The positive CoE challenge:

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  • CalaruilCalaruil Member UncommonPosts: 141
    Negative CoE challenge!  :

    Critics of this game will often try to claim that the white knights leave out all the negative stuff about the game.  I have asked multiple times for them to provide examples but so far have met silence.  So here I will call out a challenge:  

    List the negatives but include only things that actually exist (not promised to someday exist) and nothing related to stuff you can buy.


    Here I will start you off:

    There aren't enough armor options in the character creation screen.

    The Friends and Family VoXElyria is only open to friends or family of SBS staff.


    Now go!

    *edited double negative in final sentence*
    Ok Drake.  How about the game is now going to be 2 years late? At least.

    PS: open a new thread if you want since this one is for positives.  Or just stop the endless attempts.
    Out of interest though, just thought of this and I'm still ill so bear with me.

    Who is Drake?
    Are him and Ordanska the same?
    (sorry quite new to the site and don't want to look through old threads that are finished.)


    The main questions are:
    How do you know when people are this drake person?
    Could calling someone it not troll them from the site if they are not the boogy man?
    CantPlayHockey
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Stick around and after the 5th or 6th time you too will know.
    This one is all on Caspien though.  I’m more than happy to let guys like this represent his community.

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  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    It's really quite simple Calaruil

    Disagreeing with Slapshot and bringing up a counter point = Must be a past Boogeyman.

    I have no doubt this Drake/Ordanska person (people? Still not sure if they were the same person or different people) actually created multiple accounts. And I suppose only time will tell I'm not him/her (them?).
    Slapshot1188
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652

    @Dleatherus ;because it wouldn’t be true.  Having a forum account doesn’t make you a hardcore supporter.  The core group is not 150,000 nor 50,000.  Anyone who spends a week on the forum and Discord knows that.  That would be like saying the dihard MMORPG.COM members are in the millions.   Wish it were true but it isn’t.  

    PS:  Is Drake one of your citizens? 
    YashaX

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  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
  • CalaruilCalaruil Member UncommonPosts: 141
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!



    Well it made me chuckle
    but
    I don't think slapshot is narcistic and doubt that he would argue with himself just for attention.


    Maybe Drake/Ordanska is like anonymous, lots of people under one monikor...
    The boogeyman is legion...
    CantPlayHockey
  • CalaruilCalaruil Member UncommonPosts: 141
    But this thread is now totally derailed.

    Anyone got any more positives?
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.
    YashaX
    Harbinger of Fools
  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    PLEASE SNAP
    Dakeru said:
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.

    I didn't even know where the create discussion button was at to create a thread, and didn't realize that I needed more posts/site credit in order to create a thread.

    But yea, you're right, I'm your boogeyman/scapegoat/delusion/illusion/whatever you need me to be. Because clearly I've created so many accounts on this forum that I don't even know the basic functions of it

    The derangement syndrome is strong in this one

  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    edited December 2017

    Positive:

    New lore has been created including "The longest night" which will bring some pretty heavy/fun shifts in survival and gameplay due to the climate effects of a total year of darkness that happens cyclically

    Edit for clarity: It happens once every 52 Elyrian years (1 year in Elyria = 1 RL week)

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    edited December 2017
    Dakeru said:
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.
    Just ignore it.  Maybe we’ll get some more “screenshots” soon...
    Sad that 4 or 5 of us know him here but nobody even knows him on the official forums or Discord.  Even they seem to ignore his messages.

    So let’s agree to ignore his derail attempts and look forward to the next positive!



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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    PLEASE SNAP
    Dakeru said:
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.

    I didn't even know where the create discussion button was at to create a thread, and didn't realize that I needed more posts/site credit in order to create a thread.

    But yea, you're right, I'm your boogeyman/scapegoat/delusion/illusion/whatever you need me to be. Because clearly I've created so many accounts on this forum that I don't even know the basic functions of it

    The derangement syndrome is strong in this one

    Is that like when you told me I should wake up and realize what a despicable guy Slap is when you were faking to be him?

    You know many people see him and me as too critical.
    Some even feel it's to a point that it's hateful.

    But no one...
    No one on this forum believes we are liars.
    YashaX
    Harbinger of Fools
  • CalaruilCalaruil Member UncommonPosts: 141
    edited December 2017
    Dakeru said:
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.
    Just ignore it.  Maybe we’ll get some more “screenshots” soon...
    Sad that 4 or 5 of us know him here but nobody even knows him on the official forums or Discord.  Even they seem to ignore his messages.

    So let’s agree to ignore his derail attempts and look forward to the next positive!



    How do you know no one knows him in the official forums, have you personally asked every member on the discord?

    Sorry to bring it up but this just seems to be an extremely sweeping statement.


    ***EDIT***

    holy crap, wait, if no one knows him maybe he is indeed the bogeyman...
  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    Dakeru said:
    PLEASE SNAP
    Dakeru said:
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.

    I didn't even know where the create discussion button was at to create a thread, and didn't realize that I needed more posts/site credit in order to create a thread.

    But yea, you're right, I'm your boogeyman/scapegoat/delusion/illusion/whatever you need me to be. Because clearly I've created so many accounts on this forum that I don't even know the basic functions of it

    The derangement syndrome is strong in this one

    Is that like when you told me I should wake up and realize what a despicable guy Slap is when you were faking to be him?

    You know many people see him and me as too critical.
    Some even feel it's to a point that it's hateful.

    But no one...
    No one on this forum believes we are liars.


    Ok, so, I've never told you what a despicable guy Slap is. I just made my first post YESTERDAY

    Holy Jesus, get it through your head already. I'm not out to get you bro, cool your damn jets. All I did was bring up a mother loving counter-point

    I don't think you're a liar Dakeru. Your delusion that I'm someone who I'm clearly not is really beginning to get a bit disturbing. I don't mean to make a personal attack, but dude, you may want to re-up on your paranoia meds

  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 168
    edited December 2017

    @Dleatherus ;because it wouldn’t be true.  Having a forum account doesn’t make you a hardcore supporter.  The core group is not 150,000 nor 50,000.  Anyone who spends a week on the forum and Discord knows that.  That would be like saying the dihard MMORPG.COM members are in the millions.   Wish it were true but it isn’t.  

    PS:  Is Drake one of your citizens? 
    then how about put in separate points of:

    *150,000 accounts registered on forums (not known how many are alts etc)

    *approx 50,000 pledged accounts

    *$3.5 million raised by pledged accounts


    you were asking for factual substantiated positive things that have happened for CoE

    i believe that these definitely fit into that category, rather than a wild personal guess of how many are diehard followers and how many are not?

    EDIT: Drake isn't one of mine to my knowledge - in fact i don't think any of my kingdom members are in this particular forum


    Post edited by Dleatherus on
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  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    That seems fair. I’ll edit from Home on Tues but can you link the sources for the forum and account numbers?  As far as the money raised.  Have they hit their new goal?  Have they stated what they now need?  If 3.5M is now fully funded for the whole game that’s a plus and I’ll list it.  If it’s 3.5 of 10M... not so much.

    I didn’t think you’d put up with the Drake shenanigans so glad to hear that. 

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  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 168
    That seems fair. I’ll edit from Home on Tues but can you link the sources for the forum and account numbers?  As far as the money raised.  Have they hit their new goal?  Have they stated what they now need?  If 3.5M is now fully funded for the whole game that’s a plus and I’ll list it.  If it’s 3.5 of 10M... not so much.

    I didn’t think you’d put up with the Drake shenanigans so glad to hear that. 
    here is the $3.5m: 



    whether it meets a particular goal or not i don't think should disqualify it from it being a milestone in terms of community participation in the form of crowdfunding

    150,000 was the last number i "officially" saw from Caspian about 3 months ago- it's probably up around 160,000-170,000 now, but we can only go with what has been stated, not what we speculate on this stuff

    50,000 was the last number i personally saw when looking over the influence list - it's also probably higher than that now, but with no further access to those lists, i can't project what that number might be now - obviously higher than what i can personally vouch for
  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    Just show me links to the numbers and I’ll add them.  Even if it’s Caspien confirming on Discord.

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    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 168
    Just show me links to the numbers and I’ll add them.  Even if it’s Caspien confirming on Discord.
    showed you the link for the 3.5 million - have stated to you the influence list is no longer available to see, but it is common and accepted knowledge that 50,000 pledged and 150,000 total website accounts were valid numbers several months ago, and are actually higher now

    if you don't want to add them on that basis that is fine 

    do we have a link to where it's 'just a few thousand diehard supporters'? rather than the numbers i have provided which are factual?

    (in all honesty am not going to dig through several months worth of a very busy forum to try and find the post - i can ask caspian if he'll give us the current numbers)

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,652
    I do not doubt you Deatherus but what if the next person says they saw something different?  Your suggestion about asking Caspien sounds like a winner.  See if you can get the updated budget target as well.

    All time classic  MY NEW FAVORITE POST!  (Keep laying those bricks)

    "I should point out that no other company has shipped out a beta on a disc before this." - Official Mortal Online Lead Community Moderator

    Proudly wearing the Harbinger badge since Dec 23, 2017. 

    Coined the phrase "Role-Playing a Development Team" January 2018

    "Oddly Slap is the main reason I stay in these forums." - Mystichaze April 9th 2018

  • OrangeBoyOrangeBoy Member UncommonPosts: 213
    PLEASE SNAP
    Dakeru said:
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.

    I didn't even know where the create discussion button was at to create a thread, and didn't realize that I needed more posts/site credit in order to create a thread.

    But yea, you're right, I'm your boogeyman/scapegoat/delusion/illusion/whatever you need me to be. Because clearly I've created so many accounts on this forum that I don't even know the basic functions of it

    The derangement syndrome is strong in this one

    Too many hockey sticks to the noggin, no doubt.
    Slapshot1188
  • DleatherusDleatherus Member UncommonPosts: 168
    I do not doubt you Deatherus but what if the next person says they saw something different?  Your suggestion about asking Caspien sounds like a winner.  See if you can get the updated budget target as well.
    a valid point

    both numbers are off - one because it has grown - the other because it was too high

    current numbers - 200,000 registered on website - 20,000+ pledges

    will go with that for now (with no link so no need to update

    there will be an update soon that might give the numbers and when it comes out i'll post the link

    figure of 3.5m from crowd funding is solid and can be verified by anybody going to the store part of the website
  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    OrangeBoy said:
    PLEASE SNAP
    Dakeru said:
    Just had a thought...
    How do we know Slapshot isn't the real Drake/Ordanska et Al. And that he hasn't just been arguing with himself to create conflict and make himself look cool?
    Now the picture is starting to come into focus..
    Nailed it!
    Exactly the stuff Ordanska claimed in the past.
    I know the next steps you are going to undertake.
    You will create fake accounts of him and me on whatever forum or messenger and troll around with that.

    You just don't change.

    I didn't even know where the create discussion button was at to create a thread, and didn't realize that I needed more posts/site credit in order to create a thread.

    But yea, you're right, I'm your boogeyman/scapegoat/delusion/illusion/whatever you need me to be. Because clearly I've created so many accounts on this forum that I don't even know the basic functions of it

    The derangement syndrome is strong in this one

    Too many hockey sticks to the noggin, no doubt.
    Ah, Orangeboy, just like on the forums always the clown. 

    I do miss your humor in the CoE threads and I'm not being sarcastic I really do.

    As I've noted, I couldn't find the "create thread" or "discussion" button to create a new post because .. dun, dun duuuuunnn ... It wasn't there. I didn't have enough MMORPG.com street cred yet.

    As a side note, I really can't play hockey, I've only tried to skate a handful of times in my life. I'm more than happy to meet you on a soccer pitch, football field, basketball court or any other non-slick surfaced arena for a good natured competitive game anytime though!
  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    Positive:

    You can purchase a headstone that will appear in game and put a name on it.

    1/2 of the money spent on these headstones will be donated directly to the International Association for Suicide Prevention
  • CantPlayHockeyCantPlayHockey Member UncommonPosts: 55
    edited December 2017
    Positive:

    Lore for the tribes available at launch has been created and the differences in sizes shown with a character creation. In the lore it has outlined the available resources to each tribe, outlooks on one another, religion and their profession proclivity

    Sale of "Monarch" titles has ended Nov 30th and surname selection has been announced for January 2018
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