Oh look death threats these are the people you guys defend?

heerobya

Per Jason at Kotaku and some of the comments there, Sean is/was likely a QA tester on contract for an EA company, so "kind of" worked for EA at one point, took his shot at stardom/fame!

Iselin

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

Do you think it might be possible that if he lied about where he works he might also have lied about receiving death threats? Maybe?

Nilden

Here's a drink and burger to go with your bullshit.

Oh and I found the one guy defending the morons making death threats. (if that's even happening)




Don't you have some loot crates to buy?

Slapshot1188

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Interesting!

Wonder what User that person could be on here?

Xxxusernametakenxxx

Iselin said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

Do you think it might be possible that if he lied about where he works he might also have lied about receiving death threats? Maybe?

It's very possible but it's just as possible people thought he worked at EA and sent those threats.  Which you obviously don't seem to have an issue with. 

laserit

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

How on earth could we question @BiggSean 66's credibility

I'll take a stab at it and say that odds are he was and is full of shit.

IMHO

Iselin

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

Do you think it might be possible that if he lied about where he works he might also have lied about receiving death threats? Maybe?

It's very possible but it's just as possible people thought he worked at EA and sent those threats.  Which you obviously don't seem to have an issue with. 

Well there you go with your personalized implicit insults again... right on cue.

Xxxusernametakenxxx

laserit said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

How on earth could we question @BiggSean 66's credibility

I'll take a stab at it and say that odds are he was and is full of shit.

IMHO

Imho that doesn't justify death threats it's weird and akward you think it does.  But I'm not surprised that's your take on it.  

cameltosis

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Awesome plot twist

Xxxusernametakenxxx

Iselin said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

Do you think it might be possible that if he lied about where he works he might also have lied about receiving death threats? Maybe?

It's very possible but it's just as possible people thought he worked at EA and sent those threats.  Which you obviously don't seem to have an issue with. 

Well there you go with your personalized implicit insults again... right on cue.

No personal attacks you are claiming the death threats are ok because he didn't work for EA. How is that an insult?  

Iselin

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

Do you think it might be possible that if he lied about where he works he might also have lied about receiving death threats? Maybe?

It's very possible but it's just as possible people thought he worked at EA and sent those threats.  Which you obviously don't seem to have an issue with. 

Well there you go with your personalized implicit insults again... right on cue.

No personal attacks you are claiming the death threats are ok because he didn't work for EA. How is that an insult?  

Do you want to provide the quote where I said death threats are OK?

CrazKanuk

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

He did apparently start the account in 2015 and has been claiming to work there since that time, so that would be quite the effort for this one case. Still, maybe just everything EA?

MadFrenchie

CrazKanuk said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

He did apparently start the account in 2015 and has been claiming to work there since that time, so that would be quite the effort for this one case. Still, maybe just everything EA?

Elsewhere he claimed he had been there almost 4 years, which would put his start date more like 2013/2014 (as mentioned on the article linked by Suzie).

There's not a whole lot of consistency anywhere with the guy, and the resulting removal of EA info from his account and conversion to private is another thread pointing to the idea that he's simply full of it.

SBFord

Have any of the death threats been posted or do they "live" on his Twitter page for reference? Do we know if he made any reports to Twitter and can any evidence that he did be shown?

The fact that he removed reference to EA after being questioned by the reporter speaks volumes. The fact that no one prior to this bothered to question the credibility of the claims before now also speaks volumes to people's tendency to being sheeple.

laserit

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

laserit said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

How on earth could we question @BiggSean 66's credibility

I'll take a stab at it and say that odds are he was and is full of shit.

IMHO

Imho that doesn't justify death threats it's weird and akward you think it does.  But I'm not surprised that's your take on it.  

He made up who he was

Odds are that he made up the death threats as well.

Or maybe he's an honest bullshitter

Xxxusernametakenxxx

SBFord said:

Have any of the death threats been posted or do they "live" on his Twitter page for reference? Do we know if he made any reports to Twitter and can any evidence that he did be shown?

The fact that he removed reference to EA after being questioned by the reporter speaks volumes. The fact that no one prior to this bothered to question the credibility of the claims before now also speaks volumes to people's tendency to being sheeple.

I can't say I'm shocked that an employee of MMORPG would also disregard the possibility even if he were not an employee of EA he received death threats.  Here is the final paragraph the writer even admits he has received these threats so to have this attitude it doesn't happen in cases like this is absurd.

"The debate about the economy of Star Wars Battlefront II has been ugly, and threats against developers, players and anyone else are no trifling thing. (I’ve been there, too.) BiggSean66’s tweet resonated with a lot of people because it feels true. Anger tends to swell in gaming communities. Furious, partisan players do sometimes cross the line and send threats. Game developers often are brow-beaten for design decisions they made, sometimes for decisions over which they had no control. But it’s not often you find a game developer’s death threat go viral—making its way not just to game sites but to large mainstream outlets—only for it to turn out that he might not be a developer after all."

Iselin

SBFord said:

Have any of the death threats been posted or do they "live" on his Twitter page for reference? Do we know if he made any reports to Twitter and can any evidence that he did be shown?

The fact that he removed reference to EA after being questioned by the reporter speaks volumes. The fact that no one prior to this bothered to question the credibility of the claims before now also speaks volumes to people's tendency to being sheeple.

Well he "struck" at the right moment. The media was looking for and expecting death threats because that's what some crazies do whenever there is a lot of hate directed at a gaming company.

So they saw his claim and thought they struck gold and started reporting it.

SBFord

Please, I'm not saying death threats are EVER appropriate in any situation EVER. However, the fact that it appears this person is not actually employed by EA means that he's misrepresenting at least part of the truth and, as a result, now other claims he's making require a bit more clarity, if not proof.

Sometimes the proof is in the pudding.

Edit: There's no question that people get out of hand when things "don't go their way" and say horrific things to developers and just about every other job, race, gender, sexuality, etc. on the planet. It wouldn't surprise me if some of the devs had heard some pretty shitty things lately.

Xxxusernametakenxxx

SBFord said:

Please, I'm not saying death threats are EVER appropriate in any situation EVER. However, the fact that it appears this person is not actually employed by EA means that he's misrepresenting at least part of the truth and requires further proof that other things he's claiming need a bit more clarity, if not proof.

Sometimes the proof is in the pudding.

At no point did the writer ever question the threats it's possible these were shown (off the record).  The article questions he status of an EA employee and even at the end he says "might not" meaning he didn't have proof as of yet either way.   Its just baffling how easy you guys shrug off death threats because its surrounding the BF 2 controversy.  

Sovrath

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

You don't really stop and think you just sort of get wound up and "go".

No one is saying that "death threats" are ok. No one is saying that it's not ok to threaten an EA employee but it's ok to threaten someone else.

They are merely pointing out that this might be a hoax. That's it.

There is a difference between looking at what someone says and reading between the lines and looking at what someone says and making up your own narrative.

laserit

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

SBFord said:

Please, I'm not saying death threats are EVER appropriate in any situation EVER. However, the fact that it appears this person is not actually employed by EA means that he's misrepresenting at least part of the truth and requires further proof that other things he's claiming need a bit more clarity, if not proof.

Sometimes the proof is in the pudding.

At no point did the writer ever question the threats it's possible these were shown (off the record).  The article questions he status of an EA employee and even at the end he says "might not" meaning he didn't have proof as of yet either way.   Its just baffling how easy you guys shrug off death threats because its surrounding the BF 2 controversy.  

*Credibility*

Why did he run and hide from the reporter then?

Logic says: because he is full of shit

MadFrenchie

Sovrath said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

You don't really stop and think you just sort of get wound up and "go".

No one is saying that "death threats" are ok. No one is saying that it's not ok to threaten an EA employee but it's ok to threaten someone else.

They are merely pointing out that this might be a hoax. That's it.

There is a difference between looking at what someone says and reading between the lines and looking at what someone says and making up your own narrative.

I don't believe a wind up and go is what's going on here.  I believe it's moved into the realm of trolling and baiting.  He knows what he's saying is making up his own narrative, he just wants to use it to claim Suzie and the gang are discriminatory in their moderation and administration of this site and forums.

Best to simply acknowledge his attempts for what they are rather than attempt to clarify things for him.

Xxxusernametakenxxx

Sovrath said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

You don't really stop and think you just sort of get wound up and "go".

No one is saying that "death threats" are ok. No one is saying that it's not ok to threaten an EA employee but it's ok to threaten someone else.

They are merely pointing out that this might be a hoax. That's it.

There is a difference between looking at what someone says and reading between the lines and looking at what someone says and making up your own narrative.

Try reading the article the threats were not questioned.  I'll even agree he wasn't an EA employee but no where does it say the threats weren't real.  Why wouldn't the writer come out and say they were a hoax?  Come on bud use that logic you refer to. 

Let me help it's very possible some thought he was an EA employee and sent him these threats.  To claim its not possible without any thing saying the opposite just claim you are desperate to push your own narrative.  

Xxxusernametakenxxx

MadFrenchie said:

Sovrath said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

You don't really stop and think you just sort of get wound up and "go".

No one is saying that "death threats" are ok. No one is saying that it's not ok to threaten an EA employee but it's ok to threaten someone else.

They are merely pointing out that this might be a hoax. That's it.

There is a difference between looking at what someone says and reading between the lines and looking at what someone says and making up your own narrative.

I don't believe a wind up and go is what's going on here.  I believe it's moved into the realm of trolling and baiting.  He knows what he's saying is making up his own narrative, he just wants to use it to claim Suzie and the gang are discriminatory in their moderation and administration of this site and forums.

Best to simply acknowledge his attempts for what they are rather than attempt to clarify things for him.

Is it ok to call others troll on this site?  Seems that would fall under being derogatory, baiting or attackng.  So just to prove your point I bet Suzy (assuming SB) will allow you calling me a troll to remain here. 

cameltosis

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

Xxxusernametakenxxx said:

Iselin said:

SBFord said:

Interesting that this whole kerfuffle about death threats may be a hoax?

https://kotaku.com/the-curious-case-of-the-ea-game-dev-who-said-he-receive-1820474458

Nice find! Quote form the article:

I’ve become convinced that he does not actually work for EA. In fact, since I sent him several messages yesterday and this morning, he has changed his Twitter profile to remove all mentions of EA.

So in fact just someone acting as an agent provocateur in an attempt to discredit those who are complaining.

Hmm... that tactic sounds oddly familiar

So people making death threats to a person who they thought was an EA  employee is ok if that person turns out to not be an employee of EA?  Hey you justify it anyway you want I guess.  

Talk about a desperate tactic.  

Do you think it might be possible that if he lied about where he works he might also have lied about receiving death threats? Maybe?

It's very possible but it's just as possible people thought he worked at EA and sent those threats.  Which you obviously don't seem to have an issue with. 

I just want to quickly point out that at this point there is no evidence that the guy has received death threats (though I imagine now he's been exposed as a fraud, he will probably start receiving them...). 


Also, the way I read his tweet originally was that he had received those death threats through his work (i.e. people emailing his work email address, or sending him mail at work). I never once thought he had received those threats via twitter. 

This seems to be backed up by the fact that at the point he made his tweet about being threatened, he only had 5k followers. You'd have to be a pretty vile person in order to convert 5,000 people into 7 death threats and 1500 abusive messages! I doubt that even Donald Trump has that sort of conversion rate!



On the subject of death threats and abuse in general.....meh. Death threats are stupid and I do not condone them. If you really, really want to kill someone, just do it, don't threaten them. If you don't actually want to kill someone, don't threaten them. (for clarity, I am not condoning murder, I'm simply saying that death threats are pointless)

On the abuse front.....the word gets overused. Actual abuse, yeh, thats wrong, but simply calling someone an idiot does not constitute abuse in my mind. For example, throughout this thread your arguments have been pulled apart and shown to be false by numerous posters, yet you've stuck to your corner. That means you are either trolling, you're too stubborn to admit when you are wrong or you are not intelligent enough to comprehend the subject matter. 

Now, if you are trolling or simply being stubborn, you deserve a bit of "mild abuse" - you should expect people to call you out on your bullshit. If you are simply not intelligent enough then that is totally out of your control and thus would contribute abuse. The fact that you are using complete sentences, straw man arguments, references etc tells me you are capable of understanding the subject at hand, thus the only conclusion is you're either trolling or being stubborn.