Game hopping just means you don't get the full value either in entertainment or money from what you are playing. Butterfly gamers seem to enjoy their games but are such a ephemeral lot I do have concerns about your attention spans, so keeping my reply short.
Wait ... how is it that i don't get the full value when i finished a game?
Or play the game for free?
Any game with a cash shop,means you are NOT playing the game as intended ,unless you paid money via the CS. "finished" a game,pretty weak value game if it is simply finished,games with value have longevity,example i played UT99 for 15 years,it is not a game that ends.I played EQ2 and FFXI for years,again they don't END,they continue on and on.
Game hopping would also signify games are NOT being finished because hopping means just that,you are hopping in and out without finishing the game that can be finished. The phrase would be similar to bar hopping,you are NOT starting and finishing up at one bar,you are hopping from bar to bar,hence the phrase.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Any game with a cash shop,means you are NOT playing the game as intended ,unless you paid money via the CS. "finished" a game,pretty weak value game if it is simply finished
Lol . who cares what a game is "intended". If a dev let me have free fun, it is good value to me. Isn't having fun paying nothing "good value"?
Weak value if a game is finished? Wow .. you just dissed all the highly rated games like Dishonored, Deus Ex Human Evolution, Bioshock and so on. Don't tell me I am not "intended" to finish those games .. .LOL.
Any game with a cash shop,means you are NOT playing the game as intended ,unless you paid money via the CS. "finished" a game,pretty weak value game if it is simply finished
Lol . who cares what a game is "intended". If a dev let me have free fun, it is good value to me. Isn't having fun paying nothing "good value"?
Weak value if a game is finished? Wow .. you just dissed all the highly rated games like Dishonored, Deus Ex Human Evolution, Bioshock and so on. Don't tell me I am not "intended" to finish those games .. .LOL.
Do you ever miss an opportunity to tell us (again) that you treat games as "free" "entertainment" and maybe something about "whales". You go out of your way to make that clear in 27K posts now.
Seriously, every single thread you post in. We get it, there's nobody getting your shekels.
With MMOs, I get my enjoyment out of the social connections I create (I loved my guild) and participating in endgame activities. I love mastering a game's mechanics and then putting that learning into practice in PvP or raiding. This means MMOs can never be a short term thing for me - you cannot game hop MMOs and hope to maintain those friendships and remain competitive at endgame. If such a thing is possible, it means the game is too easy and so doesn't interest me anyway. I definitely follow the mantra of "the more you put in, the more you get out" when it comes to MMOs. This is why I was a raid leader and guild leader for so many years.
When it comes to single player games, I don't hop around too much, but definitely more than MMOs. The wide variety of activities in MMOs allowed the games to pretty much always offer me a type of gameplay to suit my mood, but the same is not true of single player games.
So, I switch to suit my mood. Mostly, I just find a good game and that'll keep me occupied for a month, but if my mood switches then I'm more than happy to switch games. I try to keep a wide variety of games installed to facilitate such changes.
At the moment, my primary game is Total War: Warhammer 2. However, I have the following installed to suit my needs:
XCOM 2 - fulfils my need for small scale tactical gameplay, plus I love customising my team
GRiD Autosport - for the odd bit of arcady racing
Project CARS - for some serious racing
GTAV - generally just boot up for some prolonged cop chases or to fly planes around mt chiliad.
FF7/9 - for when i need to play a decent RPG
Skyrim - for when I need to play a open world RPG
DOW2 - fills in the odd 20 minutes playing Last Stand
Cities: Skylines - for when I'm feeling creative
Planet Coaster - as with Skylines, just getting creative on a smaller scale
I need to find some more violent games to add to this list. GTAV works fairly well for mindless violence but its not quite visceral enough and I'd love to tie it into some sort of progression mechanic. I could do with finding an FPS that I really like but I'm not a big fan of the genre. I would like something like the new Battlefield games or even Battlefront, but I dislike too many things about the companies and the mechanics involved. I tried going for Diablo 3 in terms of mindless violence but really didn't enjoy that game.
Currently Playing: WAR RoR - Spitt rr7X Black Orc | Scrotling rr6X Squig Herder | Scabrous rr4X Shaman
Do you ever miss an opportunity to tell us (again) that you treat games as "free" "entertainment" and maybe something about "whales".
I hope not. It has been fun for me .. as much as playing games for "free" as "entertainment", and certainly appreciate the "whales" who support the games.
Do you ever miss an opportunity to tell us (again) that you treat games as "free" "entertainment" and maybe something about "whales".
I hope not. It has been fun for me .. as much as playing games for "free" as "entertainment", and certainly appreciate the "whales" who support the games.
Until we stop paying our taxes er um cash shop crap, then your free ride is over. How is that Marvel game doing these days?
i used to play MMO’s for years. these Last few years i have been hopping in and out of MMO’s.
my current list of installed MMO’s -WoW -GW2 -Lotro -ESO -BDO -Rift -SwTor
I hop around quite a bit, but I tend to like a much wider variety than the OP....All the games he listed are very similar to me (ie story/quest driven games)....I move around from browser games, to fantasy, to FPS, to strategy, etc etc etc.
i used to play MMO’s for years. these Last few years i have been hopping in and out of MMO’s.
my current list of installed MMO’s -WoW -GW2 -Lotro -ESO -BDO -Rift -SwTor
I hop around quite a bit, but I tend to like a much wider variety than the OP....All the games he listed are very similar to me (ie story/quest driven games)....I move around from browser games, to fantasy, to FPS, to strategy, etc etc etc.
Well, thats becausei found out thats what like, story and quest driven games.... and while i really enjoy the exploration and combat to.... i prefer to have some good story to entertain me...
i am not really a sandbox player anymore.. there is one other game outside of mmo’s i played, and thats the witcher 2 and 3...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
I can no longer play the same MMO for more than a few months. They just don't hold my interest like they used to. The last MMO I played for any extended length of time was WoW, from 2004 to 2009 and then LotRO from 2009 to 2011. I almost played a year straight of SWTOR but that's the longest I've played an MMO over the past 6 years. Here are the current MMO's I have installed and jump between:
LotRO ESO WoW FFXIV SWTOR
I'm currently playing LotRO, just came back to the game about a month ago and enjoying it.
Even though I've now switched over to single player titles, there is always and only one game at a time I play, until I've exhausted the content, then on to the next one.
Can't really conceive why game hopping is of interest.
I need to finish.....
@Kyleran For me, I usually have 2-3 games I play at the same time. They are always different genres. So I can play what I feel like that evening. For example. At the moment, I'm playing Skyrim on my Switch, Destiny 2 on PC and finishing up my Xcom 2 expansion.
I can understand where you are coming from if you are either really into the game you wanna play, or the other game/s you want to play are all for example FPS. No reason to play 3 different FPS. I prefer an RPG, another RPG but strategy, and either an action game or FPS.
You should try this some time. Maybe just start with 2 games. You'll appreciate having a bit of variety. Or you won't and can go back to 1 game till its done. Happy Thanksgiving anyways buddy
I would say game hopping has a few things involved that make it occur now more so than in the past. One would definitely have to be the variety as opposed to 10+ years ago. Couple that variety of options with also the variety of how to enter some of these games (P2P, B2P, F2P). Back in the day, almost every game was sub based, so that kind of make people stick to one kind of game. Couple that with also game progression was much slower, which games could get away with back thing because of less competition. Today's gaming is more compact and rushes you to the end because they are structured that way. As a result, you do not even play an expansion anymore, just the latest patch.
I was going to make another thread about this but one thing that has been bugging me about expansions is just the pure back-loading of them. If anyone is familiar with many FFXI expansions, they were usually well rounded, adding something for most level ranges and even forcing higher levels to down lower level stuff if they wanted to progress with mission (such as many times in CoP expansion). Now all these expansions are just aimed at high level zones and gear treadmills until the next patch. Raids aren't even worth the real investment in say a game like wow since you have World Quests you can do which give you 20-30 ilvl lower in gear vs the highest tier raids (thanks to titanforging too). Stuff isn't even really uniquely designed to certain types of players anymore. Going back to WoW again as an example, you just have different modes of literally the same content.
I dedicated a long part of my early gaming days to Everquest. Our guild culture at the time heavily discouraged "game hopping" - the guild was close, and people would take it as a personal slight or even betrayal if people left the game/guild for other games. We were never top tier, but we were pretty competitive and made some good runs in progression during times when that wasn't very easy to do in Everquest.
And I felt that way too, for a long time. My playtime in Everquest tallies in Years played, not just hours or days, and that wasn't spent AFK.
Then, as the game got older, and I got older, I realized that taking breaks, trying other games, and playing with other people isn't betrayal, or personal slight, or anything else. It just isn't the case at all. I realized that I wanted play the game for my enjoyment, not just as a body to fill a raid in order to facilitate another 40-60 people's idea of a good time.
Then I started game hopping. I have ~a lot~ more fun playing games now. True, I don't get to enjoy the competitive raiding scene, I don't always get to experience all the content. But it went from being a high stress almost second job to a real form of entertainment - like it's supposed to be.
Do you ever miss an opportunity to tell us (again) that you treat games as "free" "entertainment" and maybe something about "whales".
I hope not. It has been fun for me .. as much as playing games for "free" as "entertainment", and certainly appreciate the "whales" who support the games.
Until we stop paying our taxes er um cash shop crap, then your free ride is over. How is that Marvel game doing these days?
"we" .. are you a whale? Sure, the free ride on marvel heroes is over but the free ride on warframe is just going strong.
It is not like there is a lack of whales and hence games to free ride on. PoE, Warframe, the new Mu Legends, now even Starcraft 2 is now f2p ... are you seriously suggesting that free riding is going away any time soon?
Any game with a cash shop,means you are NOT playing the game as intended ,unless you paid money via the CS. "finished" a game,pretty weak value game if it is simply finished
Lol . who cares what a game is "intended". If a dev let me have free fun, it is good value to me. Isn't having fun paying nothing "good value"?
Weak value if a game is finished? Wow .. you just dissed all the highly rated games like Dishonored, Deus Ex Human Evolution, Bioshock and so on. Don't tell me I am not "intended" to finish those games .. .LOL.
Finished it last night. I like it a lot. Easily the top 2 or 3 netflix marvel series. The characters and acting are impeccable.
In fact, it is better 13 hours of entertainment compared to almost all video games.
Nari is a paragon for game hoppers, playing games the way they want to...that is not very much as another one has lit up their eyes and distracted them.
I was interested to see what order people rated all of Netflix's Marvel titles. Not seen Punisher or Defenders yet, for me its Ironfist, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones.
I was interested to see what order people rated all of Netflix's Marvel titles. Not seen Punisher or Defenders yet, for me its Ironfist, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones.
If Iron Fist and Daredevil on the first two spots, you will love Defenders great writing, they managed to continue all 4 storylines and collide them into one, so it feels like a follow-up season to each, with a few guest characters (kinda like Daredevil season 2 was with Punisher).
The direct connection is to Iron Fist obviously, since that was the last and thus the closest in time, but then blending in the other three, and you can't even tell which one is the main character anymore - in this regard they did a much better job than the movies with Avengers, where the previous movies has just some vague ties to the events and their group-up is almost random.
I guess I just wanna say go and watch Defenders (my order would be Daredevil, Cage, Danny and Jones btw, but all were good)
And for on-topic, I'm a hopper too. 3 main games (was four but then they killed TSW off), and at least a dozen 2nd level games, usually hop around the main ones every 1-2 months, and in the meantime occasionally play other games when I feel like it. During event season I play the festivals in the 3 main concurrently. (tough to schedule sometimes, to squeeze in everything with my limited timeframe for playing)
I was interested to see what order people rated all of Netflix's Marvel titles. Not seen Punisher or Defenders yet, for me its Ironfist, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones.
Personally i like Daredevil (just because it is the first) > Punisher = Luke Cage > Jessica Jones > Defenders > Ironfist.
All of them are enjoyable though.
I was interested to see what order people rated all of Netflix's Marvel titles. Not seen Punisher or Defenders yet, for me its Ironfist, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones.
Personally i like Daredevil (just because it is the first) > Punisher = Luke Cage > Jessica Jones > Defenders > Ironfist.
All of them are enjoyable though.
I certainly think DD is the most consistent in episodes and having two series says something. It good to see Marvel TV series making such a splash.
I was interested to see what order people rated all of Netflix's Marvel titles. Not seen Punisher or Defenders yet, for me its Ironfist, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones.
Personally i like Daredevil (just because it is the first) > Punisher = Luke Cage > Jessica Jones > Defenders > Ironfist.
All of them are enjoyable though.
I certainly think DD is the most consistent in episodes and having two series says something. It good to see Marvel TV series making such a splash.
A third season is being produced, and the rumor is that that "born again" storyline is being adapted, and the Kingpin is coming back.
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In fact, it is better 13 hours of entertainment compared to almost all video games.
"finished" a game,pretty weak value game if it is simply finished,games with value have longevity,example i played UT99 for 15 years,it is not a game that ends.I played EQ2 and FFXI for years,again they don't END,they continue on and on.
Game hopping would also signify games are NOT being finished because hopping means just that,you are hopping in and out without finishing the game that can be finished.
The phrase would be similar to bar hopping,you are NOT starting and finishing up at one bar,you are hopping from bar to bar,hence the phrase.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Lol . who cares what a game is "intended". If a dev let me have free fun, it is good value to me. Isn't having fun paying nothing "good value"?
Weak value if a game is finished? Wow .. you just dissed all the highly rated games like Dishonored, Deus Ex Human Evolution, Bioshock and so on. Don't tell me I am not "intended" to finish those games .. .LOL.
Seriously, every single thread you post in. We get it, there's nobody getting your shekels.
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EVE
ESO
TSW
WOW sometimes and currently
Totally dropped SWTOR out of the rotation.
With MMOs, I get my enjoyment out of the social connections I create (I loved my guild) and participating in endgame activities. I love mastering a game's mechanics and then putting that learning into practice in PvP or raiding. This means MMOs can never be a short term thing for me - you cannot game hop MMOs and hope to maintain those friendships and remain competitive at endgame. If such a thing is possible, it means the game is too easy and so doesn't interest me anyway. I definitely follow the mantra of "the more you put in, the more you get out" when it comes to MMOs. This is why I was a raid leader and guild leader for so many years.
When it comes to single player games, I don't hop around too much, but definitely more than MMOs. The wide variety of activities in MMOs allowed the games to pretty much always offer me a type of gameplay to suit my mood, but the same is not true of single player games.
So, I switch to suit my mood. Mostly, I just find a good game and that'll keep me occupied for a month, but if my mood switches then I'm more than happy to switch games. I try to keep a wide variety of games installed to facilitate such changes.
At the moment, my primary game is Total War: Warhammer 2. However, I have the following installed to suit my needs:
- XCOM 2 - fulfils my need for small scale tactical gameplay, plus I love customising my team
- GRiD Autosport - for the odd bit of arcady racing
- Project CARS - for some serious racing
- GTAV - generally just boot up for some prolonged cop chases or to fly planes around mt chiliad.
- FF7/9 - for when i need to play a decent RPG
- Skyrim - for when I need to play a open world RPG
- DOW2 - fills in the odd 20 minutes playing Last Stand
- Cities: Skylines - for when I'm feeling creative
- Planet Coaster - as with Skylines, just getting creative on a smaller scale
I need to find some more violent games to add to this list. GTAV works fairly well for mindless violence but its not quite visceral enough and I'd love to tie it into some sort of progression mechanic. I could do with finding an FPS that I really like but I'm not a big fan of the genre. I would like something like the new Battlefield games or even Battlefront, but I dislike too many things about the companies and the mechanics involved. I tried going for Diablo 3 in terms of mindless violence but really didn't enjoy that game.these Last few years i have been hopping in and out of MMO’s.
my current list of installed MMO’s
-WoW
-GW2
-Lotro
-ESO
-BDO
-Rift
-SwTor
i am not really a sandbox player anymore.. there is one other game outside of mmo’s i played, and thats the witcher 2 and 3...
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
LotRO
ESO
WoW
FFXIV
SWTOR
I'm currently playing LotRO, just came back to the game about a month ago and enjoying it.
I can understand where you are coming from if you are either really into the game you wanna play, or the other game/s you want to play are all for example FPS. No reason to play 3 different FPS. I prefer an RPG, another RPG but strategy, and either an action game or FPS.
You should try this some time. Maybe just start with 2 games. You'll appreciate having a bit of variety. Or you won't and can go back to 1 game till its done. Happy Thanksgiving anyways buddy
I was going to make another thread about this but one thing that has been bugging me about expansions is just the pure back-loading of them. If anyone is familiar with many FFXI expansions, they were usually well rounded, adding something for most level ranges and even forcing higher levels to down lower level stuff if they wanted to progress with mission (such as many times in CoP expansion). Now all these expansions are just aimed at high level zones and gear treadmills until the next patch. Raids aren't even worth the real investment in say a game like wow since you have World Quests you can do which give you 20-30 ilvl lower in gear vs the highest tier raids (thanks to titanforging too). Stuff isn't even really uniquely designed to certain types of players anymore. Going back to WoW again as an example, you just have different modes of literally the same content.
And I felt that way too, for a long time. My playtime in Everquest tallies in Years played, not just hours or days, and that wasn't spent AFK.
Then, as the game got older, and I got older, I realized that taking breaks, trying other games, and playing with other people isn't betrayal, or personal slight, or anything else. It just isn't the case at all. I realized that I wanted play the game for my enjoyment, not just as a body to fill a raid in order to facilitate another 40-60 people's idea of a good time.
Then I started game hopping. I have ~a lot~ more fun playing games now. True, I don't get to enjoy the competitive raiding scene, I don't always get to experience all the content. But it went from being a high stress almost second job to a real form of entertainment - like it's supposed to be.
"we" .. are you a whale? Sure, the free ride on marvel heroes is over but the free ride on warframe is just going strong.
It is not like there is a lack of whales and hence games to free ride on. PoE, Warframe, the new Mu Legends, now even Starcraft 2 is now f2p ... are you seriously suggesting that free riding is going away any time soon?
Nari is a paragon for game hoppers, playing games the way they want to...that is not very much as another one has lit up their eyes and distracted them.
I was interested to see what order people rated all of Netflix's Marvel titles. Not seen Punisher or Defenders yet, for me its Ironfist, Daredevil, Luke Cage, Jessica Jones.
The direct connection is to Iron Fist obviously, since that was the last and thus the closest in time, but then blending in the other three, and you can't even tell which one is the main character anymore - in this regard they did a much better job than the movies with Avengers, where the previous movies has just some vague ties to the events and their group-up is almost random.
I guess I just wanna say go and watch Defenders
And for on-topic, I'm a hopper too. 3 main games (was four but then they killed TSW off), and at least a dozen 2nd level games, usually hop around the main ones every 1-2 months, and in the meantime occasionally play other games when I feel like it. During event season I play the festivals in the 3 main concurrently. (tough to schedule sometimes, to squeeze in everything with my limited timeframe for playing)
Personally i like Daredevil (just because it is the first) > Punisher = Luke Cage > Jessica Jones > Defenders > Ironfist. All of them are enjoyable though.
I certainly think DD is the most consistent in episodes and having two series says something. It good to see Marvel TV series making such a splash.