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If Star Citizen dies because of this lawsuit, white knights will always just claim "It would have been great if Crytek wasn't evil and didn't kill it!"
True. Less vindicating but more entertaining.
Then introduce mandatory response <I don't want SC to fail I'm just obsessed with the prospect of its failure!>.
May your faith be with Crytek, may the failure of this project be as the 90 days prophet prophesied. Amen.
The judge ruled that CiG don't have to use CryEngine. Which means using Lumberyard is OK. This - for me - was the reason d'etre for the case (with money tied up in that). And with the ruling that they can use Lumberyard tends to draw a line under Crysis's involvement.
The ruling that SQ42 wasn't part of the agreement also explains why CiG said SQ42 was developed on Lumberyard. If the ruling was SQ42 included then OK, if not well SQ42 developed using Lumberyard (good for Amazon!).
This does not confirm anything but that there are claims that can't be dismissed without discovery, hence they have to go to court.
Things like CIG can't use another engine seem cut from it, they pretty much changed the word "use" to "promote" through their complaint.
His logic is interesting there, so if Crytek ends up agreeing with the court they could stop using Cryengine, then why would they be liable to keep promoting it after they did stop using it? That seems to be their new strategy.
It's been going for years now lol . CIG is doomed, financial collapse yadayadayada. Star Citizen "can't be made", "tech isin't possible", "network won't let more than 8 players to play", "star marine doesn't exist", "planetary landings don't work, it's a separate level", "live gameplay demonstration is a cutscene" yadayadayada lol
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And what Crytek/Skadden is asking for is very thorough; there are 69 items in total.
Some of the items it is wanting are;
21) DOCUMENTS sufficient to identify the funds, contributions, or support provided to DEFENDANTS by any PERSONS or entities.
54) All federal or state tax returns filed by or on behalf of DEFENDANTS.
55) All quarterly or annual financial statements of DEFENDANTS.
58) Documents sufficient to identify each version or iteration of agreements or contracts with the DEFENDANTS' past, present or potential suppliers, contractors and customers.
As shown by the recent 'Prenda Legal Copywrite' case, a civil discovery can also lead to a criminal investigation / trial.
Original - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3748466&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=4551#post462019951 (paywall)
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2016-07-15-through-gritted-teeth-star-citizen-developer-gives-player-whopping-usd2500-refund
CIG is sued by Crytek
https://www.polygon.com/2017/12/14/16776300/crytek-star-citizen-lawsuit-cig-rsi
EX-Backer StreetRoller sues Chris Roberts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojx7VcbowYQ
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It's the usual... <I don't want SC to fail I'm just obsessed with the prospect of its failure!>
Being a critic is far more useful than being a propagandist anyway. One spurs discussions, the other does nothing. No one really talks about the videos or the pictures you post, no one talks in depth about mechanics or features in the game, there is virtually zero discussion about the content of the actual game.
Instead almost all of it is around the drama, that seems to be Star Citizen's achievement, a one hundred and ninety two million dollar drama mill....
It's thanks to the never-ending effort from the around same dozen people on this forum that we're able to keep SC on the homepage for years and years, so props to all us! \o/
Typical whiteknight answer, the company can do no wrong so therefore every word spoken against them has to be manufactured...
But even if what you were saying is true, so what of it? Do you really think that being on the front page is some sort of achievement? Do you really think people constantly seeing "CIG fucks up yet again!" is magically going to make them want to get involved and spend their money?
But it's a good thing, the more doom and gloom talk the haters keep on spitting out around here, the more visible the reality gap will be, especially as the game continues to develop and the same people keep trying to strip the game of any merit in every way they can. This could be similar to NMS on that aspect, so much bad was said that when they did a comeback it had one enormous impact.
The only visibility we're seeing is the one where previous claims of module/feature/game coming this week/month/year/next year is nothing but wishful thinking.
I don't think people strip the game of any merit out of spitefulness, I think it's more a case of "lol, this is what you've got for 6 years, 192 million and 500 staff, WTF? How can you defend this shit?"
NMS had a great comeback but 4 weeks later and its almost forgotten, numbers have dropped by 75% and continue downwards at the same rate. It's great getting numbers but it's holding on to them that's important.
So when this forum is pretty much all about drama, and how bad everything is, and that SC will never release, or it is a scam, or it will fail and be super bad, etc... What is being done is lowering expectations to the point generally on this forum, people don't expect SC to even release.
So that sets the bar very low thanks to the endless naysaying, and this is where the interesting part comes, with CIG able to release SC and release something good enough even if it just lives partially to is promise, the comeback on the general public is huge, this because in the first place the expectations were as low as "the game will never release".
If you think about it, it's quite interesting to see what is actually happening here, in proper fact, even if you'd find it WTF, it'd be worse if everyone was hyping SC to oblivion in here, hence for me, the naysaying ongoing for years is a wildcard on how this will play out.