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By now I've seen at least three lumberyard users across various forums say things along those lines. People who say "Lumberyard is a derivative of Cryengine so the fact that CiG's bug smasher screenshots show Cryengine code means nothing!" are spewing out their butts.
Lumberyard is fully owned by Amazon and Amazon wants you to know that because the entire point of that venture is to market AMAZON, not Crytek considering that it's free to use. They're going to scrub the thing quite fully, especially by NOW after Lumberyard's been around for several years. Maybe if Lumberyard were new and Amazon didn't have time to clean it up yet but by now the idea that it'd have Cryengine messages that blatant is utterly ridiculous.
Even CiG employees seem to refer to it as CryEngine in-house considering that latest Around The Verse video has a pretty blatant cut and edit at 21:40 before the video likely got editted to have the employee say "Lumberyard" instead of what he really said.
Of course, since the whole complaint (that part of the complaint at least) is about marketting, the fact that CiG started marketting themselves as using Lumberyard is still a big deal and they probably switched to Lumberyard for at least some parts of development by now so assuming that what the complaint says about the contract is true, they've basically somehow managed to breach the exclusitivity clause of the contract AND are still using CryEngine too despite all the contract breaches at the same time.
So Crytek did the whole ks "demo", while Robberts pretended it was some sort of home-made prototype.
relevant quotes and posts....
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But hey, we may ask someone from the office.
@Erillion What is the mood in the office these days?
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Had our company X-Mas party yesterday. Davor Glühwein und Weihnachtsmarkt ;-)
Have fun
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but I suppose that was 'sarcasm' huh?
Are you THAT deep into conspiracy territory ?
It was the X-Mas party of the Austrian company I work for. Which is neither CIG, nor RSI, nor Foundry 42. It is not even in the gaming industry. Or the advertising or entertainment industry.
I was asked about the mood in the office. And i answered. Part of it in German, as i mentioned going to drink some hot spiced wine (Glühwein) and strolling through the Christmas Market (Weihnachtsmarkt).
>>>> it was clear you were intimating you were at the party with employees and that you were one of them. >>>>
You have a fertile imagination ;-)
I gave an honest answer to the question asked. No sarcasm involved. You thought i was insinuating something that fit your narrative. You thought wrong.
Have fun
There is no conspiracy there its an answer to a question based on an escalating degree of posts about how CiG (employees) were feeling. And you said 'excellent' we had our xmas party... so why would you answer it that way when its a direct question about CiG and the employees?
nice try though.
everyone knows youre at least a paid shill if not an outright employee which arent mutually exclusive.
Seems a long shot that anyone could be THAT arrogant and short-sighted, but assuming Crytek has a case (which, contrary to SC fanboys' claims, all ACTUAL evidence seems to be the case), what other explanation is there?
Since Crytek had big problems at the time and were laying off people, perhaps CR thought it was time to make a move and that they wouldn't be around much longer so they could be safely ignored. But then they got a big bailout and hired top of the line legal help. Legal experts who it would appear believe they have a decent case.
But like someone else said, this is all speculation and really doesn't matter.
"We all do the best we can based on life experience, point of view, and our ability to believe in ourselves." - Naropa "We don't see things as they are, we see them as we are." SR Covey
Business lawsuits are often about making a fumble look like a drop, in the hope of extracting financial benefit. If a somewhat plausable case can be made, it may be worth it to "give it a shot". It often results in an out-of-court settlement, as the target may not be willing to go through the whole drawn-out proceedings for some reason. Money changes hands, nobody accepts culpability and it all passes into the history books...
Have fun
https://www.skadden.com/about/news-and-rankings/news/2017/09/bti-fearsome-five-litigation-team
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But don't worry Star Citizen fans. Skadden wouldn't actually care about their reputation or win record and is just in it for the money and doesn't actually care whether or not they lose the case or whether or not the case has any merit.
Crytek have picked their champion, which leaves CIG with a choice of four...
Or perhaps CR will decide to represent CIG himself ?
The biggest thing to me looks like the good faith issue but that is an odd one and might only land on Ortwin himself (might make for some nice leverage though). I did have to study some Law (contract) in another country, but I am no lawyer and really there isn't much to comment on at the moment at all.
Yep. Don't worry Star Citizen fans. Skadden, one of the top five law firms you don't want to find on the opposite end of the litigation table from you, wouldn't actually care about their reputation or win record and is just in it for the money and doesn't actually care whether or not they lose the case or whether or not the case has any merit, so they'd certainly take a case where their side only consists of much exaggeration and bluster they could muster with not much to it!
Keep telling yourself that, Star Citizen fan. Keep the faith strong! Just don't contribute more than $35.00. Orinori said he didn't, so he doesn't have much to lose (not that it matters, because this case is in CiG's bag!)
I guess everyone can go home now, you have already ruled the case. lol
BTW, Bacon is delicious!
Even if you didnt like these guys before they are now a cliche villain in some bad TV show. So now you HAVE to hate them. Unless you work for them or have so much money tied up in them its a financial disaster if (when) this thing finally implodes.
If you rad some of what is said the monetary issues might be the least of their worries, there is a good possibility of jail time. I know that will cause the white knights heads to explode but if you actually read the thing it intimates more than civil wrong doing.
Like I said i just pray no one settles the money trail gets exposed and we see just how far these guys (CiG) have gone in scamming people.