Obviously SC being on that poll is just trollish nonsense. $100m+ funded for a game that is nowhere near coming out is a phenomenal business model. Pure jealously.
TOR obviously wins any worst MMO business model. As it really did in this poll.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
People are so totally unfair at comparing Star Citizen's business model to other business models that exists when they should be comparing it exclusively to imaginary business models.
Oh really? Look at the other crowdfunded projects on the list that got literally no votes, and guess what, "imaginary business models" as well, they are still selling what doesn't yet exist.
The argument is made yet it doesn't translate on the results.
My comment was aimed at the person who explained that this choice was wrong because Star Citizen doesn't use paramilitary mercenary forces to force people buy from them.
Unless you can point me out to a game using that as their business model, I think my comment was justified.
Star Citizen was chosen as worst by Massively OP's staff.
By pretty much the same argument that applies to the other crowdfunded projects on the list (and outside of it).
One has to be blind to not realize the reason it is there lies in its success and exposure, who cares about SOTA or CoE or Crowfall or any other that falls upon the same argumentation when SC can take up the backlash instead.
Star Citizen was chosen as worst by Massively OP's staff.
By pretty much the same argument that applies to the other crowdfunded projects on the list (and outside of it).
One has to be blind to not realize the reason it is there lies in its success and exposure, who cares about SOTA or CoE or Crowfall or any other that falls upon the same argumentation when SC can take up the backlash instead.
That's a good argument and I agree. If we're looking for the worst, there are crowdfunded MMOs that are a lot worse.
Orinori's argument that you've removed from the quote pyramid sucked.
Funny that by its own definition since the start of the project Star Citizen is NOT an MMO. Making that MMORPG vote somewhat futile.
Have fun
I am surprised, you claim to know so much about this games development and are always copying things from the official site within hours of them going up that you would not know about stuff like this:
But lets play your game and pretend none of this ever happened...
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
Star Citizen was chosen as worst by Massively OP's staff.
By pretty much the same argument that applies to the other crowdfunded projects on the list (and outside of it).
One has to be blind to not realize the reason it is there lies in its success and exposure, who cares about SOTA or CoE or Crowfall or any other that falls upon the same argumentation when SC can take up the backlash instead.
Massively may have chosen it but the reader base also voted and guess what SC wins! Just look at this forum alone and how the fans spout off crap that all this negative posting is just free advertising but then when something negative comes along it's vile and evil and clickbait because you don't like it.
COE and others didn't get as many votes because the user base who knows about it isn't as large as Star Citizen. You want to be angry, be angry that the fans hype it up and scream that any publicity is good publicity.
Star Citizen was chosen as worst by Massively OP's staff.
By pretty much the same argument that applies to the other crowdfunded projects on the list (and outside of it).
One has to be blind to not realize the reason it is there lies in its success and exposure, who cares about SOTA or CoE or Crowfall or any other that falls upon the same argumentation when SC can take up the backlash instead.
Massively may have chosen it but the reader base also voted and guess what SC wins! Just look at this forum alone and how the fans spout off crap that all this negative posting is just free advertising but then when something negative comes along it's vile and evil and clickbait because you don't like it.
COE and others didn't get as many votes because the user base who knows about it isn't as large as Star Citizen. You want to be angry, be angry that the fans hype it up and scream that any publicity is good publicity.
Yep the "Any publicity is good publicity" canard. Not always applicable.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Star Citizen was chosen as worst by Massively OP's staff.
By pretty much the same argument that applies to the other crowdfunded projects on the list (and outside of it).
One has to be blind to not realize the reason it is there lies in its success and exposure, who cares about SOTA or CoE or Crowfall or any other that falls upon the same argumentation when SC can take up the backlash instead.
Orinori's argument that you've removed from the quote pyramid sucked.
Rubbish, it is the same argument. It is crowdfunding hate by obsessives, they are just targeting the most successful one.
You even read the comments by the staff? bunch of know nothings using envy and arguments that are only valid for all crowdfunding. Not a surprise though, most of the hate comes from failed devs or wannabe devs.
If I didn't know better I would say your comment was personal or something!
As much as I feel Chris Roberts has mismanaged this project, I still dont feel Star Citizen should be above Archeage as far as greedy business models go.
"Sean (Murray) saying MP will be in the game is not remotely close to evidence that at the point of purchase people thought there was MP in the game." - SEANMCAD
So this website made a poll regarding best and worst business model in mmo's (SC isn't one). And we care about this why exactly ?
Also, gota love the replies regarding SWTOR. A number of them claim : "you can't play SWTOR for free in an easy way". Holy cow.. the game lets you play through 8 story lines, which is hundreds of hours, without spending a dime and people complain ? Pathetic, self-entitled freeloaders. If i where Bioware or EA i would only allow them to play through chapter 1. Afterwards, you like the game ? Pay the subscription. You don't like it ? Fuck off and go play something else. No preferred status no nothing.
Massively may have chosen it but the reader base also voted and guess what SC wins! Just look at this forum alone and how the fans spout off crap that all this negative posting is just free advertising but then when something negative comes along it's vile and evil and clickbait because you don't like it.
COE and others didn't get as many votes because the user base who knows about it isn't as large as Star Citizen. You want to be angry, be angry that the fans hype it up and scream that any publicity is good publicity.
Again, the same argument goes, it's all about public perception of the exposure the game gets due to its success, otherwise, nobody would care.
I don't think most who voted even know SC's business model properly, all they know is "you have to buy ships and now you also have to buy land". That alone already rules the vote.
Your last argument is my argument, its success and exposure determine SC on the frontline of this sort of things, while nobody cares to talk about the others. The fair/merit factor doesn't play much of a role there.
Star Citizen was chosen as worst by Massively OP's staff.
By pretty much the same argument that applies to the other crowdfunded projects on the list (and outside of it).
One has to be blind to not realize the reason it is there lies in its success and exposure, who cares about SOTA or CoE or Crowfall or any other that falls upon the same argumentation when SC can take up the backlash instead.
fans spout off crap that all this negative posting is just free advertising but then when something negative comes along it's vile and evil
Love you too Kefo!
just for your info, just because evil people become obsessed with this stuff by channeling all their hate towards Star Citizen does not change the fact it is still free advertising
Massively may have chosen it but the reader base also voted and guess what SC wins! Just look at this forum alone and how the fans spout off crap that all this negative posting is just free advertising but then when something negative comes along it's vile and evil and clickbait because you don't like it.
COE and others didn't get as many votes because the user base who knows about it isn't as large as Star Citizen. You want to be angry, be angry that the fans hype it up and scream that any publicity is good publicity.
Again, the same argument goes, it's all about public perception of the exposure the game gets due to its success, otherwise, nobody would care.
I don't think most who voted even know SC's business model properly, all they know is "you have to buy ships and now you also have to buy land". That alone already rules the vote.
Your last argument is my argument, its success and exposure determine SC on the frontline of this sort of things, while nobody cares to talk about the others. The fair/merit factor doesn't play much of a role there.
You're assuming that people who voted for SC are ignorant of the business model in an attempt to somehow diminish a public poll that really has no impact on the game itself.
Our arguments might be the same except im not whining because a video game got the most negative votes because of the massive amount of exposure the fans and CIG spews out.
TOR obviously wins any worst MMO business model. As it really did in this poll.
Can you elaborate on this ?
I am a subscriber since release and to this day 6 years later haven't spend a dime of real money on the game. In fact as i write this is have almost 17K cartel points and nothing to spend them on.
As a freeloader you get to play 8 class stories which translates in more than 300 hours of content.
I'm tired of saying this to people: you like the game you subscribe. You don't like the game you sod off and go find something you like. You like the game and can't afford the monthly sub ? Then you have bigger problems and you should attend to them. Or you pay 5 bucks to become preferred which gives you some QoL amenities. And you shut your mouth because beggars can't be choosers.
Their only source of income is ? With over 330 employees, that money won't last long. My guess is they have already been close to going broke, so they keep selling ships that don't yet exist to keep their pockets lined.
You're assuming that people who voted for SC are ignorant of the business model in an attempt to somehow diminish a public poll that really has no impact on the game itself.
Our arguments might be the same except im not whining because a video game got the most negative votes because of the massive amount of exposure the fans and CIG spews out.
I'm assuming ofc, a pretty safe assumption in my opinion, I had discussions with people even on this forum and the general rule is that they only perceive "buy expensive ships" and that's usually how far it goes. People usually do not have informed opinions about things the internet, this forum shows it tbh I remember when Black Desert Online was the devil of P2W then I played and got kinda wtf at how much of that was quite the hyperbole; nothing surprising ofc it's just how things work these days.
Funny that by its own definition since the start of the project Star Citizen is NOT an MMO. Making that MMORPG vote somewhat futile.
Have fun
I am surprised, you claim to know so much about this games development and are always copying things from the official site within hours of them going up that you would not know about stuff like this:
But lets play your game and pretend none of this ever happened...
ArsTechnica quote .... you are passing off the words of the author of the article as official marketing quotes from CIG.
They are not.
The author of the article calls it an MMO. Not Chris Roberts. Not CIG.
RobertsSpaceIndustries quote .... they quite literally call it something else than an MMO. A First Person Universe.
Keep in mind ... i would LOVE to be able to call SC a massive multiplayer game. I hope the technology they are working on will enable us to have that. But at the moment we are not there yet.
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TOR obviously wins any worst MMO business model. As it really did in this poll.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
Unless you can point me out to a game using that as their business model, I think my comment was justified.
One has to be blind to not realize the reason it is there lies in its success and exposure, who cares about SOTA or CoE or Crowfall or any other that falls upon the same argumentation when SC can take up the backlash instead.
Orinori's argument that you've removed from the quote pyramid sucked.
"More than a space combat sim, more than a first person shooter and more than an MMO: Star Citizen is the First Person Universe that will allow for unlimited gameplay."
Source: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/about-the-game/spaceflight
And lets not forget that this game has been marketed as an MMO from day one.
Officially announced today at GDC Online, the MMO has already been in production for a year.Source: https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/10/wing-commanders-chris-roberts-returns-to-gaming-with-ambitious-mmo/
But lets play your game and pretend none of this ever happened...
COE and others didn't get as many votes because the user base who knows about it isn't as large as Star Citizen. You want to be angry, be angry that the fans hype it up and scream that any publicity is good publicity.
Bartoni's Law definition: As an Internet discussion grows volatile, the probability of a comparison involving Donald Trump approaches 1.
You even read the comments by the staff? bunch of know nothings using envy and arguments that are only valid for all crowdfunding. Not a surprise though, most of the hate comes from failed devs or wannabe devs.
If I didn't know better I would say your comment was personal or something!
Also, gota love the replies regarding SWTOR. A number of them claim : "you can't play SWTOR for free in an easy way". Holy cow.. the game lets you play through 8 story lines, which is hundreds of hours, without spending a dime and people complain ? Pathetic, self-entitled freeloaders. If i where Bioware or EA i would only allow them to play through chapter 1. Afterwards, you like the game ? Pay the subscription. You don't like it ? Fuck off and go play something else. No preferred status no nothing.
I don't think most who voted even know SC's business model properly, all they know is "you have to buy ships and now you also have to buy land". That alone already rules the vote.
Your last argument is my argument, its success and exposure determine SC on the frontline of this sort of things, while nobody cares to talk about the others. The fair/merit factor doesn't play much of a role there.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/just for your info, just because evil people become obsessed with this stuff by channeling all their hate towards Star Citizen does not change the fact it is still free advertising
Our arguments might be the same except im
not whining because a video game got the most negative votes because of the massive amount of exposure the fans and CIG spews out.
I am a subscriber since release and to this day 6 years later haven't spend a dime of real money on the game. In fact as i write this is have almost 17K cartel points and nothing to spend them on.
As a freeloader you get to play 8 class stories which translates in more than 300 hours of content.
I'm tired of saying this to people: you like the game you subscribe. You don't like the game you sod off and go find something you like. You like the game and can't afford the monthly sub ? Then you have bigger problems and you should attend to them. Or you pay 5 bucks to become preferred which gives you some QoL amenities. And you shut your mouth because beggars can't be choosers.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/You may need your eyes tested.
Have fun
PS:
The words "Spitting Image" come to my mind ;-)
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/ArsTechnica quote .... you are passing off the words of the author of the article as official marketing quotes from CIG.
They are not.
The author of the article calls it an MMO. Not Chris Roberts. Not CIG.
RobertsSpaceIndustries quote .... they quite literally call it something else than an MMO. A First Person Universe.
Keep in mind ... i would LOVE to be able to call SC a massive multiplayer game. I hope the technology they are working on will enable us to have that. But at the moment we are not there yet.
Have fun