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MMOFTW - Devilian is Dead - Devilian Videos - MMORPG.com

SystemSystem Member UncommonPosts: 12,599
edited January 2018 in Videos Discussion

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This week's MMOFTW covers the five biggest stories in the MMO world for the week of January 20th. Devilian is sunsetting, Camelot Unchained has monies, WoW scales its levels, Bless commits to Steam Early Access soon, and Rift gets a subscription only server.

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  • ElvocElvoc Member RarePosts: 549
    Another great episode Bill, no surprise with Devilian , it was just another D3 clone that didn't quite live up to what it was suppose to be..
  • Toxicity28Toxicity28 Member UncommonPosts: 6

    Elvoc said:

    Another great episode Bill, no surprise with Devilian , it was just another D3 clone that didn't quite live up to what it was suppose to be..



    It was fun during Beta, but after launch the game tanked hard
  • Tom272Tom272 Member UncommonPosts: 30
    I still miss your old cringy intro. :D
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  • KnightFalzKnightFalz Member EpicPosts: 4,588
    edited January 2018

    Elvoc said:

    Another great episode Bill, no surprise with Devilian , it was just another D3 clone that didn't quite live up to what it was suppose to be..



    Yeah... Devilian was a themepark MMORPG, unlike Diablo III which is an action game that can be played cooperatively. That it isn't a surprise is due to a prolonged lack of new story content in a genre that generally requires it reasonably often to maintain player interest.

    The recent offering of MU Legend, which is more directly comparable to Devilian in terms of nature and scope, probably didn't do it any favours either.
  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,030
    edited January 2018
    Wow's scaling might actually make it a real mmorpg once again. It's intriguing. My previous leveling to 90 after Legion dropped was about the most boring mmo experience of my life. It even included the event where zones were raided by Legion forces and most just leveled off that ... the same, repetitive stuff, over and over and over and, blah. If ever friends drew me in again I'd have to see if I can learn to stomach phased zones. That is the other big issue I have with the game.

    Ok to be clear, there are a lot of issues I still have with the game.

    CU's new cash influx should finally allow them to soon make some new promo videos I hope. Yeesh! That old crap has to go.
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    You stay sassy!

  • ScotScot Member LegendaryPosts: 24,459
    edited January 2018
    The idea that a MMO shuts down and you get something you can use in another MMO by the same company is a good direction to go in, helm of to Trion there.

    Camelot Unchained, well that is great news, people investing in indie MMOs is good sign.

    Scaling in WoW is another solid MMO idea, introduced years ago to the MMO world, I am astonished it is not a MMO standard.

    Subscription only servers are interesting, always good to try something new. There are issues of concern, but no loot boxes and a minimised cash shop can only be a great set up.
    RhygarthRobsolf
  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited January 2018
    Devilian offline is not even remotely a story,i doubt anyone cares.All it does is prove Trion simply added it the same way they did Archeage because they wanted cash flow and that was very obvious watching other business ideas hit the news.

    That AtlasReactor game survives because of a league,the Trove is lego blocks and AA and Rift i am not so sure are doing too good over here.

    I figure they are making enough money but not enough to ever attempt another AAA game,so all i expect from Trion is maybe a mobile game or another AR.

    Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.

  • ManestreamManestream Member UncommonPosts: 941
    edited January 2018
    Played devilian - stayed with it for quite a while, but alas it just got boring and very stagnant that i stopped playing then after 6 mths i just un-installed the game (around October(ish) 2017). Not surprised its going either.

    P.S - a pack for one of the other games, hmm would have been ok but i play rift and defiance as well. didnt like archage (too much in the wallet with the must use cash shop and subscribe as well) 1 or the other but both is a no, no and no.
    beebop500
  • zaberfangxzaberfangx Member UncommonPosts: 1,796
    Don't care much about PUBG, but I did learn something new about being the same developers. I can see now why it's shutting down even more.

  • jazz.bejazz.be Member UncommonPosts: 962
    Man I really hope some of the new releases will be successful so that it can open more investments for future MMO's.
  • ScorchienScorchien Member LegendaryPosts: 8,914
             Devilian was ironically DOA , a shit game that the smart kids new would die quickly..

           Altho i hope CU can pull it off , im skeptical on some of there promises ..ex 21 classes and 30 races , We have been down this road with MJ before . he failed

             Scaling sucks in all games imo

             Good news for Rift possibly , if launch right and Trion does not get greedy .. But yea , AA needs this treatment more so and would be a great move .. But would also prove there past approach to AA wrong as it would crush there current servers..

             Bless had better deliver a game without the performance issues to STeam or it will be torn apart
    nycplayboy78
  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531
    Man...was just about to write you forgot the quote...and then in the end it came lol :D GG WP

    mmorpg junkie since 1999



  • TamanousTamanous Member RarePosts: 3,030
    edited January 2018
    Scorchien said:
             

           Altho i hope CU can pull it off , im skeptical on some of there promises ..ex 21 classes and 30 races , We have been down this road with MJ before . he failed

             
    The good news about the number of classes CU will have is that they are highly specialized and less complex at their core than multiple talent tree class structures. They had planned originally to have something similar to a class with 3 dramatically different build options but scrapped it for easier to design classes with their variation coming more from the more global character mechanic of boons and banes and the crafted skill system.

    They also come in a trio of different, yet shared themed concepts shared across the 3 factions. Basically so instead of there being 3-4 classes per faction with 3 variations each in build (which is 9 or more variations total anyway) they are making more uniquely themed classes. Sort of the same but cosmetically more demanding perhaps. It also allows them to slap in classes quickly after release and we all know how long some games take to create new complex, tri build classes so CU will benefit more from a wider selection of lore heavy themed variety in classes in a game not restricted to a holy trinity format with risk of redundancy.

    Class identity should be a big thing too like, "that's a Wow druid" but what kind of druid because it's a big difference between specs and more like, "that's a Dark Fool ... we know what it does, kill it because it's annoying" or something like that.

    New classes in CU only have to fit a basic role within a much larger siege style combat system so balance isn't too important other than extreme cases.
    YashaX

    You stay sassy!

  • AlpiusAlpius Member UncommonPosts: 247
    Really excited about the Rift sub only server. As long as the cash shop is only cosmetic then I will be jumping on that as soon as I can. Still think I would rather have an AA server like this, but Rift will always have a special place in my gaming repertoire for what it once was. Can't wait!
  • itsoveritsover Member UncommonPosts: 353
    what sound track at 00:32

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  • NoxiousBassNoxiousBass Member UncommonPosts: 259
    Hope that a prime server for Rift works out well, that means Trion would consider making a sub based only server for Archeage as well. I just have my doubts that it would work at this point of time...
    Shame that Archeage is arguably the finest mmo ever made, mishandled by questionable monetization.
  • CanibalolerCanibaloler Member UncommonPosts: 136
    Dis Trion dunno da WAE ...
  • neschrianeschria Member UncommonPosts: 1,406
    Oh, yeah... I tried Devilian once. And then I promptly forgot that it existed until just now. XD There are other games in the same vein that just seem... I dunno... *better*.

    I am actually a little bit interested in the sub-only Rift server, as I kind of like Rift but don't especially like Trion's take on f2p. I hope it succeeds. I hope it succeeds well enough to create a subscription renaissance.

    So... Bless is coming for real this time? Heh.

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  • TalemireTalemire Member UncommonPosts: 843
    Is this the beginning of a new leaf being turned over by Trion? Is it too little too late? Will the company regain the respect it once had? This is a step in the right direction. They're finally conceding that P2W isn't a desirable payment model.
    Krumko
    Love the sinner, hate the sin.
  • AlpiusAlpius Member UncommonPosts: 247

    Talemire said:

    Is this the beginning of a new leaf being turned over by Trion? Is it too little too late? Will the company regain the respect it once had? This is a step in the right direction. They're finally conceding that P2W isn't a desirable payment model.



    To be fair, a lot of the stuff from the whole AA debacle was XLGames, Trion didn't have much control over it. Then they saw it got them money and followed with all the Rift cashshop crap. If you look at all the games they actually made themselves, they're all still really good.
    BillMurphy
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    I wouldn't get my hopes up too high for Rift Prime, unless people truly forgot about the 100$ mount loot box for one 5-10$ mount reskin. At the end of the day, Trion is still the ones who sets the outrageous 50-100-150$ 'founder' pack prices, doing so every fresh start server they've made for AA while also releasing the same priced 'founder' packs for the legacy servers. So don't be surprised when you see Rift Prime 150$ 'founder' packs. This is just another easy cash grab they always do, just like trying to sell whatever the turn-based moba thing as b2p before going f2p shortly after and trying to sell Rift's expansion before going free too (while also not even delivering on half the stuff they advertised in the expansion).

    As for Bless, they honestly only have 1 more shot and I really do not know if they can do it or not. Competition is going to kick up this year with WoW taking a lot of the population due to their expansion towards the end of the year and FFXIV getting some spikes due to their FF character inspired raid bosses (Savage Kefka man....with an additional phase PLUS the final raid tier will probably be at the end of the year so it better be something from FF8). Lets not forget A:IR is still slated to release this year or at least go into beta which is pretty much similar to Bless and has no previous shut downs in their belt like Bless does.
  • AlpiusAlpius Member UncommonPosts: 247
    Actually read the newsletter about the Rift prime sub server. Forget everything I said, this is going to be a waste of time. This server will progress through the expansions and then eventually 'end' (their words). I have no idea where they got the idea that MMO players like the idea of their server going away at some point.

    "The PRIME server will progress at a faster pace than the original launch and will eventually come to an end in spectacular fashion."

    Yep, don't think I'm going to touch this.
  • RobsolfRobsolf Member RarePosts: 4,607
    Wow... Defiance is still around?

    Anyhoo... not sure why someone who already has an account with their other games that got an account For Devilian shouldn't get those game packs like anyone else. For one, they're absolutely free to Trion; it's not like it would cost them anything to give them to everyone on the server(unless it's gonna be an xpac? I doubt it). And 2nd, they invested their time on the game they're closing like anyone else did.
  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536
    Good stuff Bill.
    Robsolf
  • perrin82perrin82 Member UncommonPosts: 285
    Great video again.
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