I give the developer for what seems a limited budget,two thumbs up for effort but i have higher standards,the game is just not good enough.At least it is a way better attempt than 99% of the crap i see coming through the turn styles,i would say if you really love sword and chivalry,nothing wrong with supporting this game.
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Good review write up, comments, and arguments in the thread. I'm a huge fan of a third person option in a game, but I do play FPS shooters.
I play a lot of different games and save method and convenience does matter to me. This is not a save method I appreciate. I like it when I can put it down and pick it up right from where I left off. Not a lot of games pull that off well.
Overall, not a game I'm very interested in at this point. Maybe sometime in the future. It's most interesting to me how polarizing this game is. I think that's a good thing. Not every game needs to be divisive but there's room for some more of this right now.
There's a mod that will allow you to essentially quick save.
All in all, I'm loving it. It's kept my interest in a manner most unlike any other RPG before it. It focuses much more on creating a game world where unique and odd things matter (loosely related to the culture of the time period), such as clothing and cleanliness (or blood on your clothing making you appear more threatening). It's a breathe of fresh air.
Not without faults. But, if I'm being honest... The bugs/glitches I've encountered are nothing worse than a Bethesda release.
- you can't manually save without some dumb item, wtf
- 1070Ti/8700K and can't keep 60 fps with all maxed@1080p
- areas like indoors looking at a damn simple door can drop you to 40 fps, and outside looking at a city 60 fps no issues, yes, more wtf
- frametimes all over the place
- animations are VERY slow and clunky
- combat system is slow and boring
- there are loading times after some cutscenes (!!!!!!!!! wtf?!?)
- the story might be of interest for somebody fascinated with the utter dumpster history period that was Medieval Europe. People were unwashed, ill, violence won over everything else, the church would burn people they didn't like, war was as common as football games today. No, there seems to be no saving grace to it, it's just medieval crap. You don't even seem to be able to be a wizard/mage, so for me already that put the game on "I'll probably uninstall soon" list
Pretty much installed this because it was "advertised" by the Nvidia driver. Glad I didn't buy it. I'm uninstalling it now.
If you like the game, more power to you, I respect that. But what I said above is still truth and people that might be interested in paying for this should know.
You speak as if your system is top of the line, and like 60-40 is really bad fps for an open world game as pretty as this. I still chuckle at people that say they can see a difference between TRUE 30fps and anything higher. It may be that the framerate display is over averaging and doesnt show the dips below 30 but true 30fps is pretty flawless. Movies in theaters are shown at 30fps, except for a few gimicky ones that go for 60.
As far as slow, boring combat, maybe for some, but I'd bet you're they type that likes flashy spammy asian anime style combat. Bleh.
For the saving system again I say big deal...
Look, I hear what you're saying here, but a 1070Ti should slaughter 1080p @ 144 Hz. It should handle 1080p @ 60 Hz with ease. Even a 1060 should, let alone a 1070Ti. His system should be good enough for 1440p @ 60 Hz even in the MOST demanding games, yet the author had to lower his settings to high just to maintain 60 FPS at 1440p. I game at 4K on a 1080 Ti with a rig very similar to the author's. My experience will be a slideshow at anything more than medium settings. The game is poorly optimized, period. As great as it might be in atmosphere and immersion, I just won't get there with a laggy, pop-in, low res texture experience that comes with low settings. I'll wait on a performance patch or I'll simply pass on this one.
- you can't manually save without some dumb item, wtf
- 1070Ti/8700K and can't keep 60 fps with all maxed@1080p
- areas like indoors looking at a damn simple door can drop you to 40 fps, and outside looking at a city 60 fps no issues, yes, more wtf
- frametimes all over the place
- animations are VERY slow and clunky
- combat system is slow and boring
- there are loading times after some cutscenes (!!!!!!!!! wtf?!?)
- the story might be of interest for somebody fascinated with the utter dumpster history period that was Medieval Europe. People were unwashed, ill, violence won over everything else, the church would burn people they didn't like, war was as common as football games today. No, there seems to be no saving grace to it, it's just medieval crap. You don't even seem to be able to be a wizard/mage, so for me already that put the game on "I'll probably uninstall soon" list
Pretty much installed this because it was "advertised" by the Nvidia driver. Glad I didn't buy it. I'm uninstalling it now.
If you like the game, more power to you, I respect that. But what I said above is still truth and people that might be interested in paying for this should know.
You speak as if your system is top of the line, and like 60-40 is really bad fps for an open world game as pretty as this. I still chuckle at people that say they can see a difference between TRUE 30fps and anything higher. It may be that the framerate display is over averaging and doesnt show the dips below 30 but true 30fps is pretty flawless. Movies in theaters are shown at 30fps, except for a few gimicky ones that go for 60.
As far as slow, boring combat, maybe for some, but I'd bet you're they type that likes flashy spammy asian anime style combat. Bleh.
For the saving system again I say big deal...
Look, I hear what you're saying here, but a 1070Ti should slaughter 1080p @ 144 Hz. It should handle 1080p @ 60 Hz with ease. Even a 1060 should, let alone a 1070Ti. His system should be good enough for 1440p @ 60 Hz even in the MOST demanding games, yet the author had to lower his settings to high just to maintain 60 FPS at 1440p. I game at 4K on a 1080 Ti with a rig very similar to the author's. My experience will be a slideshow at anything more than medium settings. The game is poorly optimized, period. As great as it might be in atmosphere and immersion, I just won't get there with a laggy, pop-in, low res texture experience that comes with low settings. I'll wait on a performance patch or I'll simply pass on this one.
- you can't manually save without some dumb item, wtf
- 1070Ti/8700K and can't keep 60 fps with all maxed@1080p
- areas like indoors looking at a damn simple door can drop you to 40 fps, and outside looking at a city 60 fps no issues, yes, more wtf
- frametimes all over the place
- animations are VERY slow and clunky
- combat system is slow and boring
- there are loading times after some cutscenes (!!!!!!!!! wtf?!?)
- the story might be of interest for somebody fascinated with the utter dumpster history period that was Medieval Europe. People were unwashed, ill, violence won over everything else, the church would burn people they didn't like, war was as common as football games today. No, there seems to be no saving grace to it, it's just medieval crap. You don't even seem to be able to be a wizard/mage, so for me already that put the game on "I'll probably uninstall soon" list
Pretty much installed this because it was "advertised" by the Nvidia driver. Glad I didn't buy it. I'm uninstalling it now.
If you like the game, more power to you, I respect that. But what I said above is still truth and people that might be interested in paying for this should know.
You speak as if your system is top of the line, and like 60-40 is really bad fps for an open world game as pretty as this. I still chuckle at people that say they can see a difference between TRUE 30fps and anything higher. It may be that the framerate display is over averaging and doesnt show the dips below 30 but true 30fps is pretty flawless. Movies in theaters are shown at 30fps, except for a few gimicky ones that go for 60.
As far as slow, boring combat, maybe for some, but I'd bet you're they type that likes flashy spammy asian anime style combat. Bleh.
For the saving system again I say big deal...
Look, I hear what you're saying here, but a 1070Ti should slaughter 1080p @ 144 Hz. It should handle 1080p @ 60 Hz with ease. Even a 1060 should, let alone a 1070Ti. His system should be good enough for 1440p @ 60 Hz even in the MOST demanding games, yet the author had to lower his settings to high just to maintain 60 FPS at 1440p. I game at 4K on a 1080 Ti with a rig very similar to the author's. My experience will be a slideshow at anything more than medium settings. The game is poorly optimized, period. As great as it might be in atmosphere and immersion, I just won't get there with a laggy, pop-in, low res texture experience that comes with low settings. I'll wait on a performance patch or I'll simply pass on this one.
I play om medium and it still looks pretty good.
I'm currently running it on a 970 OC'd on high with all draw distances either max or just a bit under, and am having no framerate issues (save for a slight stutter in dark areas with complex lighting, such as candles and fires, etc.). /shrug 1080p and all.
- you can't manually save without some dumb item, wtf
- 1070Ti/8700K and can't keep 60 fps with all maxed@1080p
- areas like indoors looking at a damn simple door can drop you to 40 fps, and outside looking at a city 60 fps no issues, yes, more wtf
- frametimes all over the place
- animations are VERY slow and clunky
- combat system is slow and boring
- there are loading times after some cutscenes (!!!!!!!!! wtf?!?)
- the story might be of interest for somebody fascinated with the utter dumpster history period that was Medieval Europe. People were unwashed, ill, violence won over everything else, the church would burn people they didn't like, war was as common as football games today. No, there seems to be no saving grace to it, it's just medieval crap. You don't even seem to be able to be a wizard/mage, so for me already that put the game on "I'll probably uninstall soon" list
Pretty much installed this because it was "advertised" by the Nvidia driver. Glad I didn't buy it. I'm uninstalling it now.
If you like the game, more power to you, I respect that. But what I said above is still truth and people that might be interested in paying for this should know.
You speak as if your system is top of the line, and like 60-40 is really bad fps for an open world game as pretty as this. I still chuckle at people that say they can see a difference between TRUE 30fps and anything higher. It may be that the framerate display is over averaging and doesnt show the dips below 30 but true 30fps is pretty flawless. Movies in theaters are shown at 30fps, except for a few gimicky ones that go for 60.
As far as slow, boring combat, maybe for some, but I'd bet you're they type that likes flashy spammy asian anime style combat. Bleh.
For the saving system again I say big deal...
Look, I hear what you're saying here, but a 1070Ti should slaughter 1080p @ 144 Hz. It should handle 1080p @ 60 Hz with ease. Even a 1060 should, let alone a 1070Ti. His system should be good enough for 1440p @ 60 Hz even in the MOST demanding games, yet the author had to lower his settings to high just to maintain 60 FPS at 1440p. I game at 4K on a 1080 Ti with a rig very similar to the author's. My experience will be a slideshow at anything more than medium settings. The game is poorly optimized, period. As great as it might be in atmosphere and immersion, I just won't get there with a laggy, pop-in, low res texture experience that comes with low settings. I'll wait on a performance patch or I'll simply pass on this one.
I play om medium and it still looks pretty good.
I'm currently running it on a 970 OC'd on high with all draw distances either max or just a bit under, and am having no framerate issues (save for a slight stutter in dark areas with complex lighting, such as candles and fires, etc.). /shrug 1080p and all.
Good to know, I might try bumping mine up to high (I have a 980ti, i7-6700k, etc). Plays perfectly on medium though.
It's funny because I've got 30 hours in so far, and haven't encountered any bugs, crashes or invisible walls. And my computer isn't super great either. Guess I'm just lucky, heh...
This sounds very much like something I would enjoy. I'll wait until there's a decent sale. The amount of bugs makes it seem like the game was rushed to release. That's probably a marketing decision. Waiting on a Steam sale should give them time to clean up some of the bugs.
I've always wanted to play a game built around Good King Wenceslas and the Feast of Stephen. (I really hope that wasn't an unintentional spoiler/ If so, blame the carol and John Mason Neale, not me).
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
This sounds very much like something I would enjoy. I'll wait until there's a decent sale. The amount of bugs makes it seem like the game was rushed to release. That's probably a marketing decision. Waiting on a Steam sale should give them time to clean up some of the bugs.
I've always wanted to play a game built around Good King Wenceslas and the Feast of Stephen. (I really hope that wasn't an unintentional spoiler/ If so, blame the carol and John Mason Neale, not me).
Absolutely was a marketing decision I think. And I wish more devs would start doing historical settings. It's a rather novel idea that, quite frankly, I enjoyed a lot more than I expected.
It's not nearly as boring as I thought it would he compared to dragons and magic. It's actually refreshingly awesome to "go back in time" and role-play a citizen of a time long past.
This sounds very much like something I would enjoy. I'll wait until there's a decent sale. The amount of bugs makes it seem like the game was rushed to release. That's probably a marketing decision. Waiting on a Steam sale should give them time to clean up some of the bugs.
I've always wanted to play a game built around Good King Wenceslas and the Feast of Stephen. (I really hope that wasn't an unintentional spoiler/ If so, blame the carol and John Mason Neale, not me).
Absolutely was a marketing decision I think. And I wish more devs would start doing historical settings. It's a rather novel idea that, quite frankly, I enjoyed a lot more than I expected.
It's not nearly as boring as I thought it would he compared to dragons and magic. It's actually refreshingly awesome to "go back in time" and role-play a citizen of a time long past.
When you play a very low magic game with more realistic combat it shows how much typical combat is all magic like an archer shooting a rain of arrows that pin down an aoe of targets. That's magic. Shooting a bow works nothing like that.
Good point!
I'd love to see Warhorse do a series of historically set RPGs, including Greek or Roman, Chinese or Japanese, etc..
I guess some people don't want to be immersed in the world....
I appreciate choice too, but I respect that 1st person is more immersive by design. I think it works really well in this game.
Ironically 1st person feels less immersive to me because it's constantly reminding me of the limited awareness of my surroundings that it provides. 1st person in VR, once VR matures to that point, will be great but in the meantime 3rd person to me feels like a better simulation of what I would be aware of in real life thanks to my peripheral vision and other sensory cues.
3rd person does in fact go too far the other way and makes you preternaturally aware so it's not perfect either. But all in all I find it more realistically immersive.
First person view makes me feel as if I'm a dog after surgery who has to wear one of those cones around their heads to keep them from biting at the stitches.
Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
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First person view makes me feel as if I'm a dog after surgery who has to wear one of those cones around their heads to keep them from biting at the stitches.
What does this even mean? You don't like history, you don't like European games? What a weird comment.
On the actual game, it sounds amazing and absolutely not for me. More power to those that enjoy it.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Euro jank refers to smaller european studios making ambitious games that would be great if it weren't for the lack of polish.
Sort of like CDPR and the first Witcher?
Small and rough beginnings can sometimes lead to pretty awesome things somewhere down the line.
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What does this even mean? You don't like history, you don't like European games? What a weird comment.
On the actual game, it sounds amazing and absolutely not for me. More power to those that enjoy it.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
Euro jank refers to smaller european studios making ambitious games that would be great if it weren't for the lack of polish.
Ahh ok, didn't know that, thanks. And funny, those, too me, are probably the most exciting games out there. Gothic, Sacred, Divinity Series, Elex, Witcher, all euro jank. AAA and ambitious have parted ways long ago, for me its a positive to be called euro jank then.
/Cheers, Lahnmir
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Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
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Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
All in all, I'm loving it. It's kept my interest in a manner most unlike any other RPG before it. It focuses much more on creating a game world where unique and odd things matter (loosely related to the culture of the time period), such as clothing and cleanliness (or blood on your clothing making you appear more threatening). It's a breathe of fresh air.
Not without faults. But, if I'm being honest... The bugs/glitches I've encountered are nothing worse than a Bethesda release.
Look, I hear what you're saying here, but a 1070Ti should slaughter 1080p @ 144 Hz. It should handle 1080p @ 60 Hz with ease. Even a 1060 should, let alone a 1070Ti. His system should be good enough for 1440p @ 60 Hz even in the MOST demanding games, yet the author had to lower his settings to high just to maintain 60 FPS at 1440p. I game at 4K on a 1080 Ti with a rig very similar to the author's. My experience will be a slideshow at anything more than medium settings. The game is poorly optimized, period. As great as it might be in atmosphere and immersion, I just won't get there with a laggy, pop-in, low res texture experience that comes with low settings. I'll wait on a performance patch or I'll simply pass on this one.
I've always wanted to play a game built around Good King Wenceslas and the Feast of Stephen. (I really hope that wasn't an unintentional spoiler/ If so, blame the carol and John Mason Neale, not me).
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
It's not nearly as boring as I thought it would he compared to dragons and magic. It's actually refreshingly awesome to "go back in time" and role-play a citizen of a time long past.
I'd love to see Warhorse do a series of historically set RPGs, including Greek or Roman, Chinese or Japanese, etc..
On the actual game, it sounds amazing and absolutely not for me. More power to those that enjoy it.
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer
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Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm
Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV
Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™
"This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon
Small and rough beginnings can sometimes lead to pretty awesome things somewhere down the line.
“Microtransactions? In a single player role-playing game? Are you nuts?”
― CD PROJEKT RED
/Cheers,
Lahnmir
Kyleran on yours sincerely
'But there are many. You can play them entirely solo, and even offline. Also, you are wrong by default.'
Ikcin in response to yours sincerely debating whether or not single-player offline MMOs exist...
'This does not apply just to ED but SC or any other game. What they will get is Rebirth/X4, likely prettier but equally underwhelming and pointless.
It is incredibly difficult to design some meaningfull leg content that would fit a space ship game - simply because it is not a leg game.
It is just huge resource waste....'
Gdemami absolutely not being an armchair developer