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AMD announces second generation Ryzen, available next week.
https://techreport.com/review/33507/amd-second-generation-ryzen-cpus-revealed
They're available for pre-order now, with reviews coming on the 19th. As usual with hardware pre-orders, I'd recommend that you not.
Still, we kind of know the performance, as AMD has said that there aren't architectural improvements. Basically, if you take a first generation Ryzen and overclock it by about 10%, that's a second generation Ryzen. The top bin Ryzen 7 2700X has turbo up to 4.3 GHz.
The situation of the new Ryzen as compared to Coffee Lake is somewhat similar to the situation of the original Ryzen as compared to Kaby Lake. Intel wins on single-threaded performance, while AMD wins if you can push all the threads. That said, Coffee Lake has six cores to Kaby Lake's four, so while AMD eroded Intel's single-threaded lead only slightly, AMD's highly threaded advantage is greatly diminished.
How does AMD compensate for what seems like a less competitive part? On price, of course. While the Ryzen 7 1800X debuted at $500, the Ryzen 7 2700X starts at $330. Rather than charging a lot more than Intel for the top end mainstream consumer part, AMD is now charging substantially less than Intel.
And that's just for the CPU. AMD motherboards commonly cost less than comparable Intel motherboards because AMD charges less for the chipset and motherboard vendors pass along chipset costs to the consumer. Ryzen also has more connectivity coming off of the die than Intel's Coffee Lake, though if you were hoping to run CrossFire/SLI or several M.2 PCI-E SSDs on your gaming rig, you'd be better off looking at the HEDT platforms. AMD also ships a better cooler with the CPU, which might save you $30 if you were just hoping for a decent but hardly high-end heatsink on your CPU.
The upshot will be that for gamers looking to build mid-range to high-end gaming rigs, both AMD and Intel will be reasonable options. AMD pretty much owns the low end of gaming desktops because of Raven Ridge, and this will do nothing to change that. The cheapest second generation Ryzen starts at $200, and that without a viable integrated GPU rules it out of a low end budget.
Now if only the memory to go with the CPU didn't cost a fortune.
They're available for pre-order now, with reviews coming on the 19th. As usual with hardware pre-orders, I'd recommend that you not.
Still, we kind of know the performance, as AMD has said that there aren't architectural improvements. Basically, if you take a first generation Ryzen and overclock it by about 10%, that's a second generation Ryzen. The top bin Ryzen 7 2700X has turbo up to 4.3 GHz.
The situation of the new Ryzen as compared to Coffee Lake is somewhat similar to the situation of the original Ryzen as compared to Kaby Lake. Intel wins on single-threaded performance, while AMD wins if you can push all the threads. That said, Coffee Lake has six cores to Kaby Lake's four, so while AMD eroded Intel's single-threaded lead only slightly, AMD's highly threaded advantage is greatly diminished.
How does AMD compensate for what seems like a less competitive part? On price, of course. While the Ryzen 7 1800X debuted at $500, the Ryzen 7 2700X starts at $330. Rather than charging a lot more than Intel for the top end mainstream consumer part, AMD is now charging substantially less than Intel.
And that's just for the CPU. AMD motherboards commonly cost less than comparable Intel motherboards because AMD charges less for the chipset and motherboard vendors pass along chipset costs to the consumer. Ryzen also has more connectivity coming off of the die than Intel's Coffee Lake, though if you were hoping to run CrossFire/SLI or several M.2 PCI-E SSDs on your gaming rig, you'd be better off looking at the HEDT platforms. AMD also ships a better cooler with the CPU, which might save you $30 if you were just hoping for a decent but hardly high-end heatsink on your CPU.
The upshot will be that for gamers looking to build mid-range to high-end gaming rigs, both AMD and Intel will be reasonable options. AMD pretty much owns the low end of gaming desktops because of Raven Ridge, and this will do nothing to change that. The cheapest second generation Ryzen starts at $200, and that without a viable integrated GPU rules it out of a low end budget.
Now if only the memory to go with the CPU didn't cost a fortune.
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https://www.pcgamer.com/amds-second-gen-ryzen-cpus-are-topping-58ghz-when-overclocked/
https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-ryzen-7-2700x-and-ryzen-5-2600x-overclocked-above-58ghz
https://valid.x86.fr/hjn6l9
https://hothardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-ryzen-7-2700x-zen-58ghz-overclock-ln2
I mean I am a fan of ryzen and anything that can cause competition but I have a hard time believing these claims.
I would be really happy if they can OC to 4.5 on air cooling and think that would be really competitive with intel cpu
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
past stock. It appears a good deal of that comes from a much more dynamic and aggressive boost algorithm.
I actually think that’s a good thing - consistent and guaranteed performance for the price, as opposed to needing to play the silicon lottery.
Even Zen 1.0 was pretty consistent - you could get a little and often get a non-X to hit X-level boost clocks, but I don’t know of anyone who got a lot out of an overclock.