Pre-Alpha Gameplay and Impressions - TheHiveLeader - Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Videos - MMORPG.co

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Pre-Alpha Gameplay and Impressions - TheHiveLeader - Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen Videos - MMORPG.com

Last week, TheHiveLeader was invited to play Pantheon: Rise of the Fallen with the developers, Visionary Realms. Their goal was to defeat one of the mini-bosses in Black Rose Keep, one of the dungeons in the game. What did TheHiveLeader think of his time in this upcoming indie MMORPG? Let's find out!

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Sovrath

"Don't run from my love!!!"

Classic.

I enjoyed the stream as well as this video and "yes" this game is for me as well. Now "I" have something in my eye ...

aslan132

Looks good. Watched your livestream, and it was fun... and funny to watch how many times you wiped :P. Been watching this game, going to keep watching it, but I think this is one I wont know if I like without actually playing it myself. No matter what "critics and reviewers" have to say, you wont get a feel for it if you dont have hands on, its just not something you can judge from others videos. At least not yet. Maybe as it gets closer, who knows.

DiscipledOne

I am kind of undecided on if this game will scratch my MMO itch, but I really appreciate the time and effort you put into these videos. Also hope that the game ends up being successful.

TheHiveLeader

aslan132 said:

 No matter what "critics and reviewers" have to say, you wont get a feel for it if you dont have hands on, its just not something you can judge from others videos. At least not yet. Maybe as it gets closer, who knows.

I say this often. It's why I refuse to do videos on games that I haven't gotten actual hands on time with. People will ask me to cover the newest Kickstarter MMO or talk about my thoughts on whatever new MMO is on the horizon, and I simply refuse to.

But that's just me. I have to actually play it before I form my opinions.

TEKK3N

I have to say they got the art style right.
This isn't BDO, but I don't need that level of graphic to enjoy a game as long the art style is spot on, which in this case is.

For what I see, it's basically Everquest, which is a good thing.
Combat is boring to watch, but it's fun to play.
I just hope they don't launch like Vanguard though.

blbeta

I enjoyed EQ2 for a bit. EQ1 I couldn't get into. The sitting for mana/rest just doesn't do it for me. I played Asheron's Call at that time which was more my speed.

Over the years since AC and then WoW, I have enjoyed the games with less but more meaningful skills on your bar at once. ESO and GW2 I like. I am not sure I can go back to tab targeting.

Not too sure about the encounters here either. BDO was way too easy with regular mobs. Quite boring to me. This game looks to go the other way too far as well. Somewhere in between is what I enjoy. Asheron's Call did it well IMO. You could take on a lot of mobs but if you weren't careful you could die quickly. You could also find yourself just getting worn down with no escape.

But like others mentioned above I really don't know until I play a game for myself. Wait and see I guess.

EDIT: BTW I do however love corpse runs. I have some great memories from AC corpse runs. I like the risk feeling of should I or shouldn't I try this? More recently it was one of the things I enjoyed in Ark: Survival Evolved.

Halibrand

You sold me on giving it a try, Hivey, if they have a server without corpse runs (no way, never ever again, nope nope nope).

+1 internets for member-berries, though.

Elderknight

Hell ya, Love the Video and the Game, so Awesome brings me back.

Ltldogg

This game is looking great!

Heatsink00

Corpse runs? Sitting and doing nothing to med again? Yeah, poor game design like that might induce a little nostalgia, but how many people will it turn off for the sheer stupidity of it? Regarding corpse runs in particular, the devs ignore important things like the internet isn't always reliable and sometimes games crash. Punishing the players with a corpse run for things out of their control is asinine.

epoq

This is a rare opportunity for a game to come out that more or less has "nothing new" to offer but brings back a nostalgic time in a new setting with some visual tweaks and a few new minor systems. Loved EQ1 through PoP, then it went to shit. Vanguard never really had a chance to succeed, by the time it was "fixed" and playable, it was too late. So this to me is what Vanguard should have been - definitely the most excitement I've felt about a game in the genre in many years - as I, and I'm sure many other older MMO players, were about to give up on MMO's entirely, this will bring me back and once again entirely ruin every other part of my life - but I say BRING IT ON.

Sovrath

Heatsink00 said:

Corpse runs? Sitting and doing nothing to med again? Yeah, poor game design like that might induce a little nostalgia, but how many people will it turn off for the sheer stupidity of it? Regarding corpse runs in particular, the devs ignore important things like the internet isn't always reliable and sometimes games crash. Punishing the players with a corpse run for things out of their control is asinine.

I'm ok with it. Maybe I'll be in the minority of players but if they keep it then I wouldn't complain. And, since I plan to go dps, probably mage, I'll be doing some sitting most likely.

TEKK3N

Halibrand said:

You sold me on giving it a try, Hivey, if they have a server without corpse runs (no way, never ever again, nope nope nope).

+1 internets for member-berries, though.

Just shout in OOC and people will recover the corpse for you.
I've done it many times, it doesn't bother me at all.

Also I don't mind people spamming chat asking for a rez.
I remember many times I would temporary leave my group to rez a poor soul begging for it.

That's a MMORPG at its best, social interaction, isn't that what we want from a MMO?

Jixen9

22 Ranger lfg BRK LC (left Cabinet), Can pull.

sososooo hyped for Panthon:Rise of the fallen. MMOs lately just are not giving me that same connection the old EQ style did. So tired of going through content alone and not needing a group or even a friend.
Every Pantheon gameplay video i watch just gets me more and more excited, it looks like things are being done the right way. There is still a lot of info im curious about but its alpha and ill wait, the main one being Endgame content. So thanks for the awesome videos TheHiveLeader and Pantheon Devs.

Sinsai

Can't wait

Areteo

The decision not to have bards ended my interest in this game.

shassell

Looking forward to this immensely. Don't mind corpse runs... makes dying a pain, so it weeds out the people playing like a dikwad. Anyway, in EQ many years ago, a monk gave my necro five plat to summon his corpse, an unimaginable amount of money for me as a relative noob. I was jumping around the room in celebration. Happy days.

TEKK3N

Areteo said:

The decision not to have bards ended my interest in this game.

I believe Bards will be added with an expansion as it is a very popular choice.
They didn't want to end up with 50% Bards at launch.

Sovrath

TEKK3N said:

Halibrand said:

You sold me on giving it a try, Hivey, if they have a server without corpse runs (no way, never ever again, nope nope nope).

+1 internets for member-berries, though.

Just shout in OOC and people will recover the corpse for you.
I've done it many times, it doesn't bother me at all.

Also I don't mind people spamming chat asking for a rez.
I remember many times I would temporary leave my group to rez a poor soul begging for it.

That's a MMORPG at its best, social interaction, isn't that what we want from a MMO?

In lineage 2 my clan mates and I were constantly running all over the world to pick up each other's dropped equipment.

So yes, that's large component of what these games are about!

jpedrote52

Areteo said:

The decision not to have bards ended my interest in this game.

actually in a recent interview, they pretty much confirmed bards will be in by launch, unless something goes terribly wrong with the game development they'll be a playable class when the game launches.

Thupli

I rarely watch any luvestreams, but yours are always well done, to the point, not to long, and pack a lot of info, Hibe. Thanks for this one, it was great! Looking forward to Pantheon!

Psykogunner

jpedrote52 said:

Areteo said:

The decision not to have bards ended my interest in this game.

actually in a recent interview, they pretty much confirmed bards will be in by launch, unless something goes terribly wrong with the game development they'll be a playable class when the game launches.

I don't remember what they said exactly but I don't think they confirmed that. Iirc it was more like "bards are in a good place now for testing and that makes a launch release a good bet"

TEKK3N

Sovrath said:

TEKK3N said:

Halibrand said:

You sold me on giving it a try, Hivey, if they have a server without corpse runs (no way, never ever again, nope nope nope).

+1 internets for member-berries, though.

Just shout in OOC and people will recover the corpse for you.
I've done it many times, it doesn't bother me at all.

Also I don't mind people spamming chat asking for a rez.
I remember many times I would temporary leave my group to rez a poor soul begging for it.

That's a MMORPG at its best, social interaction, isn't that what we want from a MMO?

In lineage 2 my clan mates and I were constantly running all over the world to pick up each other's dropped equipment.

So yes, that's large component of what these games are about!

That's what I call Social mechanics which people seems not to understand or appreciate.
It is the inconvenience that creates and expand the social aspect of a game.
Need your corpse recovered? Shout in OOC
Need a rezz? Again shout in OOC.
Need a teleport? Ask a mage or druid.
Need a buff? Bug the appropriate class in any city or hub before adventuring.


In modern MMOs players can do all the above by themselves, so how can people expect MMORPGs to be Social?
In EQ players were selling Buffs and Teleports in cities.
I was playing WoW Classic recently (is it a taboo talking about this here?) and the market for Summoned Food and Teleports were flourishing.
MMORPGs need more of this emerging game-play and less instant gratification features.

Wizardry

The one oddity was a group fighting mobs that are lower level?

Also why is the focus on dungeons?Why are group fights not happening in the open world?I hope this doesn't mean instances and lack of places to group fight so they stick everyone in an instance. Pretty much as usual a video that really shows and tell us very little.

Sovrath

Wizardry said:

The one oddity was a group fighting mobs that are lower level?

Also why is the focus on dungeons?Why are group fights not happening in the open world?I hope this doesn't mean instances and lack of places to group fight so they stick everyone in an instance. Pretty much as usual a video that really shows and tell us very little.

They already said there were no instances. That's the whole point of this mmorpg.

And one of their first streams was all outside.

This is old footage from 2 years ago but "outside stuff".