Why isn't there much talk about Worlds Adrift?

Vexus_X

As a player of the game, I'm not certain why there's not much talk about the game here. Maybe it's too sandbox? Maybe they don't have a sidebar image with tig-ole-bitties to get you interested? Maybe most gamers here enjoy the WoW experience more than open world sandbox PvP?

I'd love to know what the deal is. It's the best MMO available in my opinion, kind of like Sky-Rust on a single large server. It has those meaningful combat elements on an MMO scale. But it doesn't have NPCs to tell you where to go and what to do.

Anyway; what is keeping you from checking it out?

Kyleran

Easy answer, FFA Full Loot PVP with few controls on bad behavior.

Pretty much no interest in gank box games here. 

couponfork

I'm currently waiting for some additional features. I got to play during the free alpha testing and it was a bit lackluster. I don't even think there is a combat system yet right? Like one weapon...no monsters...etc

Vexus_X

I look at your signature and see EVE, talk about playing hard MMORPG's and not just playing but inhabiting virtual worlds. What changed that you need controls on behavior now?

I liken the game more to a third-person EVE than anything else, especially when they get territory control in. I wouldn't consider it a gank box but perhaps that is the one thing everyone thinks about it to keep them away. Where's the Rust forums?

redcap036

@ Kyleran, skadad & anyone else who's interested...

When i first started playing WA I would have fully agreed with you, but nearly two weeks in and i know very differently,  First off name a MMORPG that doesn't have "griefing elitist trash community" and i'll say that's your favorite game and that it also has a griefing elitist trash community as well,  no different than any other mmo game, as for controls and bad behavior, well the first time a new player comes into the game and spends time gathering resources and building there first ship to go exploring the different zones only to have some higher tier ship show up and start shooting there hard earned new ship into the abyss, of course they scream blue murder into the wind after them and call them griefers and a few other choice words, it's at this time they turn in to the rage quitter or they learn that the game is not about owning one ship for as long as you can but about learning how to make better ships to last long enough that you can keep exploring to earn more knowledge points to unlock skills that let's you make an even better ship that will sooner than later let you take on the higher tier ships, for a full description of what and how to play this game properly look up the guide on steam written by the player Shade the Wanderer.

But in short excluding games that you think of as having a griefing elitist trash community, will pretty much exclude you playing any mmorpg that has any form of pvp in it and that has come out in the last 10 years.

Those that have a bad behavior in this game are usually the newbies who don't know how to play properly yet, this game does have a really good and friendly helpful community, but you do have to learn to be a part of it, in some regards it is a real roleplaying community and if you don't get how to play the part, well you either get bored and leave or rage quit and leave.

On a last note, personally i think this is the game everyone wished Sea of thieves was.

redcap036 aka JagerWulf66

Kyleran

Vexus_X said:

I look at your signature and see EVE, talk about playing hard MMORPG's and not just playing but inhabiting virtual worlds. What changed that you need controls on behavior now?

I liken the game more to a third-person EVE than anything else, especially when they get territory control in. I wouldn't consider it a gank box but perhaps that is the one thing everyone thinks about it to keep them away. Where's the Rust forums?

I definitely steer clear of games like Rust as I am the "sheep" and games such as this have no appeal.

EVE is actually a great example of PVP implemented right.  

I am well able to control my level of risk which has varied from my early days with a lot of high sec living, ranging later to wormholes to my later days which was all in null sec.

Scot

redcap036 said:

@ Kyleran, skadad & anyone else who's interested...

When i first started playing WA I would have fully agreed with you, but nearly two weeks in and i know very differently,  First off name a MMORPG that doesn't have "griefing elitist trash community" and i'll say that's your favorite game and that it also has a griefing elitist trash community as well,  no different than any other mmo game, as for controls and bad behavior, well the first time a new player comes into the game and spends time gathering resources and building there first ship to go exploring the different zones only to have some higher tier ship show up and start shooting there hard earned new ship into the abyss, of course they scream blue murder into the wind after them and call them griefers and a few other choice words, it's at this time they turn in to the rage quitter or they learn that the game is not about owning one ship for as long as you can but about learning how to make better ships to last long enough that you can keep exploring to earn more knowledge points to unlock skills that let's you make an even better ship that will sooner than later let you take on the higher tier ships, for a full description of what and how to play this game properly look up the guide on steam written by the player Shade the Wanderer.

But in short excluding games that you think of as having a griefing elitist trash community, will pretty much exclude you playing any mmorpg that has any form of pvp in it and that has come out in the last 10 years.

Those that have a bad behavior in this game are usually the newbies who don't know how to play properly yet, this game does have a really good and friendly helpful community, but you do have to learn to be a part of it, in some regards it is a real roleplaying community and if you don't get how to play the part, well you either get bored and leave or rage quit and leave.

On a last note, personally i think this is the game everyone wished Sea of thieves was.

redcap036 aka JagerWulf66

You have totally lost me here, you keep saying how this is no different from any other MMO game. You are wrong, every MMO does not have a "griefing elitist trash community"; you are wrong in thinking that every MMO with "any form of PvP" in the last ten years has a community like that.

I don't know how much more wrong you could be, in MMOs where only certain zones are PvP, or you have to be PvP tagged, in every RvR I have known that is not the case. Yes you get some, but they don't form the community of griefing lovers you are talking about because there is not enough of them. Those games are not designed sufficiently to their liking, they go elsewhere like Worlds Adrift.

I would like to hear from our more vocal posters in this thread about the joys of such game play. Presumably there is enough "FEAR" here for you, if this does it for you, by all means tell us. But I would then have to say you do have a MMO home, and seem to come across as if there is no MMO around for you.

anemo

It targets a very small group of players.  Pretty much people who would want to play a game that feels like a combination of Rust and Space Engineers, that is also a full grow MMO.

Literally the two games with the highest grief potential, when everything goes wrong.   Seal clubbing is at 20% according to the devs, with the comment that it's only a little higher than they like.

With that you need to really really like the upsides of its exploration and building to stick around.  Even if you are a true blue blood PvP this still holds true, you'd be surprised how used to banking/auction mechanics to lighten blows, and you're probably very used to safe areas concentrating player bases in predictable ways.

Dibdabs

I don't like the idea of needing a crew or being part of a crew.  Too much like a job.

Kyleran

Dibdabs said:

I don't like the idea of needing a crew or being part of a crew.  Too much like a job.

I would actually enjoy being part of a crew who had my back, probably the only way I'd play a game like this.

Cryomatrix

+1 for the use of "Tig-ol-Bitties" for Vexus_X. Also, I do love EVE's ability to control your risk and think it should be implemented in most FFA loot games. But perhaps, I'll try World's adrift even though I know myself that I don't like FFA loot games precisely because I can't control the risk. 

But I may try it if it is free that is. I'm still hopelessly addicted to Path of Exile. I'm playing a flashback league in HC solo-self-found and got lucky and found good gear and am kicking ass but playing smart, it is fulfilling and there is a fear challenge. I was worried about the act 7 boss it was wicked easy based on my game play. Felt good. 

But because of Vexus_X's post, I'll try world's adrift at some point, thanks for bringing it to my attention. I've heard about it before, but your usage of "Tig-ole-bitties" has convinced me. 

A friend of mine from the virgin islands used to use it describe our mutual classmate (clearly she was a female). . . I thought it was just him using it but apparently not. 

Cryomatrix

Tiller

Kyleran said:

Easy answer, FFA Full Loot PVP with few controls on bad behavior.

Pretty much no interest in gank box games here. 

Those games never do well these days since there are plenty others out that don't have those mechanics, yet they continue to be made.

alkarionlog

full loot like everything or just bag items? I serious don't have time, wish, or will to spend time playing and then lose everything with a gank with someone fast higher lvl then me, these times is something I never really miss back in the day these was common

plus I don't even know what game that is but if is full drop on death maybe I saw and then forget becasue I wouldn't spend my time on it

anemo

alkarionlog said:

full loot like everything or just bag items? I serious don't have time, wish, or will to spend time playing and then lose everything with a gank with someone fast higher lvl then me, these times is something I never really miss back in the day these was common

plus I don't even know what game that is but if is full drop on death maybe I saw and then forget becasue I wouldn't spend my time on it

The closest thing to a bank in the game is a logged out alt, since ships log 3 mins after you do (ships are you storage/base/attack platform).

So a little bit less full loot than Haven and Hearth/Wurmonline (since ships can store much more than a character alt in those games).  Far more full loot than games that have an annoying rep like EVE/Albion/darkfall.

laxie

I've heard it's too easy to grief people, so I've never even tried it.

I generally prefer PvP games where people are encouraged to fight players of the same progression level, and penalised for taking on people significantly lower.

Sovrath

redcap036 said:

@ Kyleran, skadad & anyone else who's interested...

When i first started playing WA I would have fully agreed with you, but nearly two weeks in and i know very differently,  First off name a MMORPG that doesn't have "griefing elitist trash community" and i'll say that's your favorite game and that it also has a griefing elitist trash community as well,  no different than any other mmo game, as for controls and bad behavior, well the first time a new player comes into the game and spends time gathering resources and building there first ship to go exploring the different zones only to have some higher tier ship show up and start shooting there hard earned new ship into the abyss, of course they scream blue murder into the wind after them and call them griefers and a few other choice words, it's at this time they turn in to the rage quitter or they learn that the game is not about owning one ship for as long as you can but about learning how to make better ships to last long enough that you can keep exploring to earn more knowledge points to unlock skills that let's you make an even better ship that will sooner than later let you take on the higher tier ships, for a full description of what and how to play this game properly look up the guide on steam written by the player Shade the Wanderer.

But in short excluding games that you think of as having a griefing elitist trash community, will pretty much exclude you playing any mmorpg that has any form of pvp in it and that has come out in the last 10 years.

Those that have a bad behavior in this game are usually the newbies who don't know how to play properly yet, this game does have a really good and friendly helpful community, but you do have to learn to be a part of it, in some regards it is a real roleplaying community and if you don't get how to play the part, well you either get bored and leave or rage quit and leave.

On a last note, personally i think this is the game everyone wished Sea of thieves was.

redcap036 aka JagerWulf66

"nah"

Sure there are "elitisttrashcommunitypeople" in every game. But how much exposure one gets to them varies.

So no, that's not an answer at all.

I've encountered them in Lord of the Rings Online but every now and then (along with some really selfish and stupid people) but I probably can count on less than two hands how many times I've had to deal with them. I can only remember 4 times though perhaps there were more. Probably not note worthy at the time.

But in games like Black Desert or Lineage 2 (which I loved) I had to deal with them a lot. It was ridiculous. So I bet one will have to deal with them a lot more in Worlds Adrift over, say, The Secret World.

I should add that the older I get the less patience I have for these people and the more I start looking toward limited communities. I don't have to deal with a lot "less than people" in my daily life, not sure why I should pay for the privilege in a game that's supposed to be entertainment. And believe me, I love pvp. But these communities are really going downhill.

Sephiroso

redcap036 said:

@ Kyleran, skadad & anyone else who's interested...

When i first started playing WA I would have fully agreed with you, but nearly two weeks in and i know very differently,  First off name a MMORPG that doesn't have "griefing elitist trash community"

WoW. ESO. SWTOR. GW2. MS2. FFXIV. Oh, and just for the lulz World of Tanks.

Mikeha

Because people say they want something different but really just want more of the same. 

Quizzical

If you think it's a cool game, then make your case for why you think people ought to play it.  Don't just ask why no one else has bothered to do so.

Sovrath

Mikeha said:

Because people say they want something different but really just want more of the same. 

Yeah but is Worlds Adrift the something different they want?

couponfork

Quizzical said:

If you think it's a cool game, then make your case for why you think people ought to play it.  Don't just ask why no one else has bothered to do so.

He's starting a conversation about the game, what difference does it fucking make?

Mikeha

Sovrath said:

Mikeha said:

Because people say they want something different but really just want more of the same. 

Yeah but is Worlds Adrift the something different they want?

You would have to ask they. 

I just know its yet another game that has tried to be something different from the wow clone.

Add it to the list with games like Darkfall, Mortal Online, Albion Online, Shroud Of The Avatar, Life Is Feudal, Project Gorgon and Pathfinder. 

NoxiousBass

I would be quite interested in trying it out, but I would prefer a free trial before investing time and money in it.

anemo

Sovrath said:

Mikeha said:

Because people say they want something different but really just want more of the same. 

Yeah but is Worlds Adrift the something different they want?

It fits well with what full loot PvP whine for.

Even has no "character stats (even armor)".  A newbie can even completely bypass the leveling system by trade, handouts, or grouping up.

Though they'll be annoyed that those safety systems aren't there when they want to be.  No banks or auction house for easy recovery.   No safe zones to concentrate the prey population.

Azaron_Nightblade

Seems like an interesting enough title. Not really my cup of tea though.

Sorry, OP.

Sephiroso

Maybe because this game has shit advertising? I've never heard of it before till i saw this post. Still sounds like a terrible game though so i still wouldn't play/be interested in it.

But i'm willing to bet most don't talk about it because they don't even know it exists, which comes down to poor advertising.