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Eaglance Inc. Announces Launch of Kickstarter for 'Hardcore Medieval MMO' - The Flower of Knighthoo

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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    lahnmir said:
    Ohh man, awesome!! Where could this possibly go wrong?

    /Cheers,
    Lahnmir
    RIght how many games can we pass on before they even make their first dollar in kickstarter!
  • WraithoneWraithone Member RarePosts: 3,806
    "Realistic" combat system?? From that time period? You do know that even minor injuries killed vast numbers of people, because of infection and such? Disease and infection killed more people in the various armies than the enemy did.

    "Realistic" crafting?? In a video game format? Do you have any idea how mind numbingly tedious that would be?

    Where do people come up with this ill conceived nonsense? I give up...
    craftseeker
    "If you can't kill it, don't make it mad."
  • craftseekercraftseeker Member RarePosts: 1,740
    Wraithone said:
    "Realistic" combat system?? From that time period? You do know that even minor injuries killed vast numbers of people, because of infection and such? Disease and infection killed more people in the various armies than the enemy did.

    "Realistic" crafting?? In a video game format? Do you have any idea how mind numbingly tedious that would be?

    Where do people come up with this ill conceived nonsense? I give up...
    The thing about realistic crafting is that engaging in a craft would pretty much exclude all other game activities. So if you want to play a medieval blacksmith a stand alone single player blacksmith game would be better. What no takers?? What a surprise.
    WraithoneMendel
  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    Isn't crowd funding MMOs dead yet?  Considering the hot pile of garbage this method has churned out so far, most of which is stuck in perpetual early access, are people still hopeful for this model?  I mean, when one of the few examples of a "successful" game that's made it to release is Shroud of the Avatar...
    Kyleran
  • EaglanceEaglance Member CommonPosts: 4


    Way too little information available about this project to instill any confidence in its success.



    Almost nothing about the team, except the creator's name "Ivan Usenko" and a general statement about the team having "vast" experience in game development (one of which has 21+ years experience).



    Hello Wellspring,
    We don't have famous developers. I can say, for example, that our Lead Artist worked on Warcraft, but it was many years ago. Some projects we can't write about because of NDA, some projects on which we worked are not well-known. But as I mentioned on the Kickstarter page all artists, programmers and game designers are professionals in game development.
    About our historical consultant Dr. Mileson you can read on the site of Oxford Univercity.
    Tell me please, what additional information about our project you want to read?
    WellspringSovrath
  • TEKK3NTEKK3N Member RarePosts: 1,115
    Didn't read the article, but let me guess.
    By hardcore they mean FFA PvP.
  • EaglanceEaglance Member CommonPosts: 4

    Kyleran said:

    So a slightly different take on Life is Feudal with realistic crafting like is being planned for COE.



    All they need now is a BR arena and they'll be complete on borrowing the latest popular features.






    Hello Kyleran,

    As a lot of other games we have battle system, craft system and trading. But the difference is in details. For example, we don't have HP and use armor penetration system. In many games you can craft items. How? Learn a skill, open menu and press buttom. In The Flower of Knighthood, for example, to forge the blade you will have to take out a piece of hot metal, put it on the anvil and make several hits with a hammer in different parts of the billet.
  • EaglanceEaglance Member CommonPosts: 4

    Vrika said:

    Yet another Kickstarter that tries to do a 10 million game with 600 000 funding, and advertise an experienced team without revealing their any of their names, games they've worked on, or prior positions.



    Hello Vrika,

    On our Kickstarter page you can find "stretch goals" where you can see that for release version of The Flower of Knighthood we need $3,5 million. $600,000 is an early access version and making it is one of the ways of development.
  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    Eaglance said:

    Vrika said:

    Yet another Kickstarter that tries to do a 10 million game with 600 000 funding, and advertise an experienced team without revealing their any of their names, games they've worked on, or prior positions.



    Hello Vrika,

    On our Kickstarter page you can find "stretch goals" where you can see that for release version of The Flower of Knighthood we need $3,5 million. $600,000 is an early access version and making it is one of the ways of development.
    I think you misunderstood what stretch goal means?
    Or maybe that's why you put it into quotation marks to make sure people understand it's sarcasm.

    "A stretch goal is an additional goal you set for your campaign in case you exceed your initial fundinggoal, and is generally used to finance another specific aspect of your project"

    The release of an unfinished game really doesn't count as stretch goal.
    VrikaKyleran
    Harbinger of Fools
  • EaglanceEaglance Member CommonPosts: 4

    Wraithone said:

    "Realistic" combat system?? From that time period? You do know that even minor injuries killed vast numbers of people, because of infection and such? Disease and infection killed more people in the various armies than the enemy did.



    "Realistic" crafting?? In a video game format? Do you have any idea how mind numbingly tedious that would be?



    Where do people come up with this ill conceived nonsense? I give up...



    Hello Wraithone,
    Realistic combat system means that if someone will hit you with a knife in a full plate armor, you will not take any damage, and if you will strike opponent on his head without helmet using two-handed sword, he will lose not a half of hit points but half of himself.
    If realistic craft is tedious for you, then you can buy everything you need. If you are a great warrior your guild will provide you everything you need. But there are a lot of people who enjoy complicated crafting.
  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member RarePosts: 562
    edited May 2018
    hmmm well I have @Dakeru on ignore but decided to read his input... 
    Have to say i agree with him 100% there, I would hit agree but it won'
     let me unless I unblock you which ismy happening sorry...

    Imo this Ks is similar to Coe but worse...

    Eaglance said:

    Kyleran said:

    So a slightly different take on Life is Feudal with realistic crafting like is being planned for COE.



    All they need now is a BR arena and they'll be complete on borrowing the latest popular features.






    Hello Kyleran,

    As a lot of other games we have battle system, craft system and trading. But the difference is in details. For example, we don't have HP and use armor penetration system. In many games you can craft items. How? Learn a skill, open menu and press buttom. In The Flower of Knighthood, for example, to forge the blade you will have to take out a piece of hot metal, put it on the anvil and make several hits with a hammer in different parts of the billet.
    @Eaglance Maybe you should read up on CoE, their crafting system is exactly this but they actually have more money then your asking for in your ks.
    Also alot of people on this site are critical at SBS being able to complete the game so why would yours be any different from a nearly exact game.
    At least they told you who their "nobodys" are...
  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Eaglance said:

    Kyleran said:

    So a slightly different take on Life is Feudal with realistic crafting like is being planned for COE.



    All they need now is a BR arena and they'll be complete on borrowing the latest popular features.






    Hello Kyleran,

    As a lot of other games we have battle system, craft system and trading. But the difference is in details. For example, we don't have HP and use armor penetration system. In many games you can craft items. How? Learn a skill, open menu and press buttom. In The Flower of Knighthood, for example, to forge the blade you will have to take out a piece of hot metal, put it on the anvil and make several hits with a hammer in different parts of the billet.
    I'm waiting to see how they emulate a hammer swing with a mouse and keyboard.  I wonder if they watched the same episodes of Forged in Fire for inspiration?  And what happens when they move into tailoring -- will we have to thread needles with the mouse and keyboard?
    AnOldFart

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Mendel said:
    Eaglance said:

    Kyleran said:

    So a slightly different take on Life is Feudal with realistic crafting like is being planned for COE.



    All they need now is a BR arena and they'll be complete on borrowing the latest popular features.






    Hello Kyleran,

    As a lot of other games we have battle system, craft system and trading. But the difference is in details. For example, we don't have HP and use armor penetration system. In many games you can craft items. How? Learn a skill, open menu and press buttom. In The Flower of Knighthood, for example, to forge the blade you will have to take out a piece of hot metal, put it on the anvil and make several hits with a hammer in different parts of the billet.
    I'm waiting to see how they emulate a hammer swing with a mouse and keyboard.  I wonder if they watched the same episodes of Forged in Fire for inspiration?  And what happens when they move into tailoring -- will we have to thread needles with the mouse and keyboard?
    Probably alot like this..

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/blog/24679/Design-Journal-Crafting-Redux

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,059
    Eaglance said:

    Wraithone said:

    "Realistic" combat system?? From that time period? You do know that even minor injuries killed vast numbers of people, because of infection and such? Disease and infection killed more people in the various armies than the enemy did.



    "Realistic" crafting?? In a video game format? Do you have any idea how mind numbingly tedious that would be?



    Where do people come up with this ill conceived nonsense? I give up...



    Hello Wraithone,
    Realistic combat system means that if someone will hit you with a knife in a full plate armor, you will not take any damage, and if you will strike opponent on his head without helmet using two-handed sword, he will lose not a half of hit points but half of himself.
    If realistic craft is tedious for you, then you can buy everything you need. If you are a great warrior your guild will provide you everything you need. But there are a lot of people who enjoy complicated crafting.
    So what you are saying is everyone will run around in plate armor, no one will bother attacking with knives and no, complicated crafting is a small, very niche audience normally favored by people who are terribly averse to FFA PVP games.


    "True friends stab you in the front." | Oscar Wilde 

    "I need to finish" - Christian Wolff: The Accountant

    Just trying to live long enough to play a new, released MMORPG, playing New Worlds atm

    Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Pvbs 18:2, NIV

    Don't just play games, inhabit virtual worlds™

    "This is the most intelligent, well qualified and articulate response to a post I have ever seen on these forums. It's a shame most people here won't have the attention span to read past the second line." - Anon






  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Eaglance said:

    Kyleran said:

    So a slightly different take on Life is Feudal with realistic crafting like is being planned for COE.



    All they need now is a BR arena and they'll be complete on borrowing the latest popular features.






    Hello Kyleran,

    As a lot of other games we have battle system, craft system and trading. But the difference is in details. For example, we don't have HP and use armor penetration system. In many games you can craft items. How? Learn a skill, open menu and press buttom. In The Flower of Knighthood, for example, to forge the blade you will have to take out a piece of hot metal, put it on the anvil and make several hits with a hammer in different parts of the billet.
    I'm waiting to see how they emulate a hammer swing with a mouse and keyboard.  I wonder if they watched the same episodes of Forged in Fire for inspiration?  And what happens when they move into tailoring -- will we have to thread needles with the mouse and keyboard?
    Probably alot like this..

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/blog/24679/Design-Journal-Crafting-Redux
    That really doesn't say anything about how they make a hammer swing with a mouse.  Is it going to be a mouse click, or mouse tracking to emulate the hammer's path.  How will they adjust the power of the hammer strike, speed of movement or a button press?  There's probably a dozen ways to simulate this very analog operation, none of them all that good in a digital world.

    If this is the future of crafting in games, my cheap-o replacement mouse is going to need an immediate upgrade to something with greatly increased resolution.  On the bright side, a new personal record!  A mouse lasting only 3 days before retirement!




    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • MadFrenchieMadFrenchie Member LegendaryPosts: 8,505
    edited May 2018
    Mendel said:
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Eaglance said:

    Kyleran said:

    So a slightly different take on Life is Feudal with realistic crafting like is being planned for COE.



    All they need now is a BR arena and they'll be complete on borrowing the latest popular features.






    Hello Kyleran,

    As a lot of other games we have battle system, craft system and trading. But the difference is in details. For example, we don't have HP and use armor penetration system. In many games you can craft items. How? Learn a skill, open menu and press buttom. In The Flower of Knighthood, for example, to forge the blade you will have to take out a piece of hot metal, put it on the anvil and make several hits with a hammer in different parts of the billet.
    I'm waiting to see how they emulate a hammer swing with a mouse and keyboard.  I wonder if they watched the same episodes of Forged in Fire for inspiration?  And what happens when they move into tailoring -- will we have to thread needles with the mouse and keyboard?
    Probably alot like this..

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/blog/24679/Design-Journal-Crafting-Redux
    That really doesn't say anything about how they make a hammer swing with a mouse.  Is it going to be a mouse click, or mouse tracking to emulate the hammer's path.  How will they adjust the power of the hammer strike, speed of movement or a button press?  There's probably a dozen ways to simulate this very analog operation, none of them all that good in a digital world.

    If this is the future of crafting in games, my cheap-o replacement mouse is going to need an immediate upgrade to something with greatly increased resolution.  On the bright side, a new personal record!  A mouse lasting only 3 days before retirement!




    It isn't the direction crafting is headed.  It's merely a misguided attempt to have crafting stand out.

    I'm not knocking them for the attempt at all.  Minutiae isn't what we play games for, though.

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  • AnOldFartAnOldFart Member RarePosts: 562
    Mendel said:
    Kyleran said:
    Mendel said:
    Eaglance said:

    Kyleran said:

    So a slightly different take on Life is Feudal with realistic crafting like is being planned for COE.



    All they need now is a BR arena and they'll be complete on borrowing the latest popular features.






    Hello Kyleran,

    As a lot of other games we have battle system, craft system and trading. But the difference is in details. For example, we don't have HP and use armor penetration system. In many games you can craft items. How? Learn a skill, open menu and press buttom. In The Flower of Knighthood, for example, to forge the blade you will have to take out a piece of hot metal, put it on the anvil and make several hits with a hammer in different parts of the billet.
    I'm waiting to see how they emulate a hammer swing with a mouse and keyboard.  I wonder if they watched the same episodes of Forged in Fire for inspiration?  And what happens when they move into tailoring -- will we have to thread needles with the mouse and keyboard?
    Probably alot like this..

    https://chroniclesofelyria.com/blog/24679/Design-Journal-Crafting-Redux
    That really doesn't say anything about how they make a hammer swing with a mouse.  Is it going to be a mouse click, or mouse tracking to emulate the hammer's path.  How will they adjust the power of the hammer strike, speed of movement or a button press?  There's probably a dozen ways to simulate this very analog operation, none of them all that good in a digital world.

    If this is the future of crafting in games, my cheap-o replacement mouse is going to need an immediate upgrade to something with greatly increased resolution.  On the bright side, a new personal record!  A mouse lasting only 3 days before retirement!




    It isn't the direction crafting is headed.  It's merely a misguided attempt to have crafting stand out.

    I'm not knocking them for the attempt at all.  Minutiae isn't what we play games for, though.
    Some people like all the attention to detail....
    Not saying me but some people do...
    Kyleran
  • Kain_DaleKain_Dale Member UncommonPosts: 378
    Strikes from 11 different directions and 5 block types make each battle exciting.

    Rock paper n sisscor game?

    Kain_Dale

  • Native.ityNative.ity Member UncommonPosts: 5
    lmao the site goes to ordering flowers online they scammed the shit out of crowd funders
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