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  • DakeruDakeru Member EpicPosts: 3,803
    Kyleran said:
    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.
    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.
    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)
    I had this problem for years and I would never move away from the countryside even for the best connection in the world.

    This is a real issue and not offering the client ahead of time is plain bad - period.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    Dakeru said:
    Kyleran said:
    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.
    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.
    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)
    I had this problem for years and I would never move away from the countryside even for the best connection in the world.

    This is a real issue and not offering the client ahead of time is plain bad - period.
    Its not a "real issue" they can just play the game a few days later than other folks.

    If you really cared you would move,  I certainly wouldn't live anywhere with bad internet, heck I avoid going on vacation anywhere with this issue. 

    I don't even care if I play games at launch even.

    ;)

    BTW as mentioned above, this is  Steam EA limitation, so all complaints should be directed to Valve.


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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    Kyleran said:
    Dakeru said:
    Kyleran said:
    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.
    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.
    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)
    I had this problem for years and I would never move away from the countryside even for the best connection in the world.

    This is a real issue and not offering the client ahead of time is plain bad - period.
    Its not a "real issue" they can just play the game a few days later than other folks.

    If you really cared you would move,  I certainly wouldn't live anywhere with bad internet, heck I avoid going on vacation anywhere with this issue. 

    I don't even care if I play games at launch even.

    ;)

    BTW as mentioned above, this is  Steam EA limitation, so all complaints should be directed to Valve.


    I think that's going a little far. "Bad internet" is ..somewhat subjective,  but in the next 3 years or so with 5G rising, mobile data speeds will easily rival more expensive connection speeds, if only the various infrastructures will be able to handle the load, we could easily see 100MBPS 5G plans (and those would be throttled at 100MBPS) for people with limited access to other plans.

    I'd rather live where I want rather than be tied to where I can get a good internet connection.  I mean, right now my house has 1GBPS fiber...  but I do plan on selling the house soon, and might have to make due with much less. 

    But that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, it's going to be highly unlikely people will be getting exceptional download speeds once everyone tries to hop in the game at once.  I fear they are going to have long queue times too. 
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  • XingbairongXingbairong Member RarePosts: 927



    Kyleran said:


    Dakeru said:


    Kyleran said:



    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.

    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.


    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)


    I had this problem for years and I would never move away from the countryside even for the best connection in the world.

    This is a real issue and not offering the client ahead of time is plain bad - period.


    Its not a "real issue" they can just play the game a few days later than other folks.

    If you really cared you would move,  I certainly wouldn't live anywhere with bad internet, heck I avoid going on vacation anywhere with this issue. 

    I don't even care if I play games at launch even.

    ;)

    BTW as mentioned above, this is  Steam EA limitation, so all complaints should be directed to Valve.




    I think that's going a little far. "Bad internet" is ..somewhat subjective,  but in the next 3 years or so with 5G rising, mobile data speeds will easily rival more expensive connection speeds, if only the various infrastructures will be able to handle the load, we could easily see 100MBPS 5G plans (and those would be throttled at 100MBPS) for people with limited access to other plans.

    I'd rather live where I want rather than be tied to where I can get a good internet connection.  I mean, right now my house has 1GBPS fiber...  but I do plan on selling the house soon, and might have to make due with much less. 

    But that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, it's going to be highly unlikely people will be getting exceptional download speeds once everyone tries to hop in the game at once.  I fear they are going to have long queue times too. 



    I moved just few months ago from 1Gbps at my old place to 100Mbps at my new place, but I guess I can't really complain because 100Mbps is still plenty fast.

    Still a lot of countries or part of countries just have bad internet and it's not like everyone can just up and move because the internet is slow, unless it's important for your work of course.

    I personally moved from the polluted capital to a smaller town 20 minutes away and I couldn't be happier. Wouldn't go back even if I could access 10Gbps internet for free :P

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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Leiloni said:
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    Yea that part I found confusing. Yesterday in Discord the EU CM Penta the Panther posted in the announcements section the official answer about having 3 and 2 channels which lead most people to assume he meant megaserver. However today's Facebook posts seems to indicate it's just regular servers and not a megaserver.

    I'm inclined to think its not a megaserver because the game is designed for regular servers - you are faction locked to one faction per server, and they also lock faction creation temporarily on each server when it gets too big to balance it out. Both of those things present problems when you have a megaserver, not to mention the OwPvP focused nature of endgame makes megaservers a bit weird.

    I've also heard from other players that the backend does not support a megaserver structure. 

    It's possible any of the above has changed, however it's not likely. So I'd like to get a more clear answer on this. I think what they're probably saying is we're getting a regular server structure with 3 channels for NA and 2 for EU, but that if additional capacity was needed, they'd add more servers and not more channels. That's what most Korean MMO's do here in the West, is have a very small number of channels and limit it to that, but have standard server setups. However clarity is needed.
    Do you think it's language barrier that is causing all the confusion? 

    • Virgina (3 named servers)
    • Frankfurt (2 named servers)

    Seems wiser than

    • Virgina Named Server (3 Channels)
    • Frankfurt Named Server (2 Channels)

    Why would they allow people to jump channels in an RVR OWPVP game? In the event they underestimate the amount of people who'd actually play on launch why would they want everybody fire hosed into the same server and then possibly locked off from their mates?
    Leiloni
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    edited May 2018
    Leiloni said:
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    Yea that part I found confusing. Yesterday in Discord the EU CM Penta the Panther posted in the announcements section the official answer about having 3 and 2 channels which lead most people to assume he meant megaserver. However today's Facebook posts seems to indicate it's just regular servers and not a megaserver.

    I'm inclined to think its not a megaserver because the game is designed for regular servers - you are faction locked to one faction per server, and they also lock faction creation temporarily on each server when it gets too big to balance it out. Both of those things present problems when you have a megaserver, not to mention the OwPvP focused nature of endgame makes megaservers a bit weird.

    I've also heard from other players that the backend does not support a megaserver structure. 

    It's possible any of the above has changed, however it's not likely. So I'd like to get a more clear answer on this. I think what they're probably saying is we're getting a regular server structure with 3 channels for NA and 2 for EU, but that if additional capacity was needed, they'd add more servers and not more channels. That's what most Korean MMO's do here in the West, is have a very small number of channels and limit it to that, but have standard server setups. However clarity is needed.
    Do you think it's language barrier that is causing all the confusion? 

    • Virgina (3 named servers)
    • Frankfurt (2 named servers)

    Seems wiser than

    • Virgina Named Server (3 Channels)
    • Frankfurt Named Server (2 Channels)

    Why would they allow people to jump channels in an RVR OWPVP game? In the event they underestimate the amount of people who'd actually play on launch why would they want everybody fire hosed into the same server and then possibly locked off from their mates?
    I've played several PVP games over the years that permitted channel hopping, which I took advantage of to great effect to avoid gankers.

    Pretty common these days I think.
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  • FlyByKnightFlyByKnight Member EpicPosts: 3,967
    Kyleran said:
    Leiloni said:
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    Yea that part I found confusing. Yesterday in Discord the EU CM Penta the Panther posted in the announcements section the official answer about having 3 and 2 channels which lead most people to assume he meant megaserver. However today's Facebook posts seems to indicate it's just regular servers and not a megaserver.

    I'm inclined to think its not a megaserver because the game is designed for regular servers - you are faction locked to one faction per server, and they also lock faction creation temporarily on each server when it gets too big to balance it out. Both of those things present problems when you have a megaserver, not to mention the OwPvP focused nature of endgame makes megaservers a bit weird.

    I've also heard from other players that the backend does not support a megaserver structure. 

    It's possible any of the above has changed, however it's not likely. So I'd like to get a more clear answer on this. I think what they're probably saying is we're getting a regular server structure with 3 channels for NA and 2 for EU, but that if additional capacity was needed, they'd add more servers and not more channels. That's what most Korean MMO's do here in the West, is have a very small number of channels and limit it to that, but have standard server setups. However clarity is needed.
    Do you think it's language barrier that is causing all the confusion? 

    • Virgina (3 named servers)
    • Frankfurt (2 named servers)

    Seems wiser than

    • Virgina Named Server (3 Channels)
    • Frankfurt Named Server (2 Channels)

    Why would they allow people to jump channels in an RVR OWPVP game? In the event they underestimate the amount of people who'd actually play on launch why would they want everybody fire hosed into the same server and then possibly locked off from their mates?
    I've played several PVP games over the years that permitted channel hopping, which I took advantage of to great effect to avoid gankers.

    Pretty common these days I think.
    Cool.

    I was talking about folks who play OWPVP games to OWPVP. It kind of defeats the purpose of that and the silly 10 min Care-beers.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    Torval said:
    Kyleran said:
    Leiloni said:
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    Yea that part I found confusing. Yesterday in Discord the EU CM Penta the Panther posted in the announcements section the official answer about having 3 and 2 channels which lead most people to assume he meant megaserver. However today's Facebook posts seems to indicate it's just regular servers and not a megaserver.

    I'm inclined to think its not a megaserver because the game is designed for regular servers - you are faction locked to one faction per server, and they also lock faction creation temporarily on each server when it gets too big to balance it out. Both of those things present problems when you have a megaserver, not to mention the OwPvP focused nature of endgame makes megaservers a bit weird.

    I've also heard from other players that the backend does not support a megaserver structure. 

    It's possible any of the above has changed, however it's not likely. So I'd like to get a more clear answer on this. I think what they're probably saying is we're getting a regular server structure with 3 channels for NA and 2 for EU, but that if additional capacity was needed, they'd add more servers and not more channels. That's what most Korean MMO's do here in the West, is have a very small number of channels and limit it to that, but have standard server setups. However clarity is needed.
    Do you think it's language barrier that is causing all the confusion? 

    • Virgina (3 named servers)
    • Frankfurt (2 named servers)

    Seems wiser than

    • Virgina Named Server (3 Channels)
    • Frankfurt Named Server (2 Channels)

    Why would they allow people to jump channels in an RVR OWPVP game? In the event they underestimate the amount of people who'd actually play on launch why would they want everybody fire hosed into the same server and then possibly locked off from their mates?
    I've played several PVP games over the years that permitted channel hopping, which I took advantage of to great effect to avoid gankers.

    Pretty common these days I think.
    As far back as Aion this has been a thing.
    That was the first title I could recall, though AOC had some sort of zoning mechanic I exploited to great effect.

    I could jump back and forth endlessly between zones under Tortage and never get killed.
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  • LeiloniLeiloni Member RarePosts: 1,266
    Torval said:
    Kyleran said:
    Leiloni said:
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    Yea that part I found confusing. Yesterday in Discord the EU CM Penta the Panther posted in the announcements section the official answer about having 3 and 2 channels which lead most people to assume he meant megaserver. However today's Facebook posts seems to indicate it's just regular servers and not a megaserver.

    I'm inclined to think its not a megaserver because the game is designed for regular servers - you are faction locked to one faction per server, and they also lock faction creation temporarily on each server when it gets too big to balance it out. Both of those things present problems when you have a megaserver, not to mention the OwPvP focused nature of endgame makes megaservers a bit weird.

    I've also heard from other players that the backend does not support a megaserver structure. 

    It's possible any of the above has changed, however it's not likely. So I'd like to get a more clear answer on this. I think what they're probably saying is we're getting a regular server structure with 3 channels for NA and 2 for EU, but that if additional capacity was needed, they'd add more servers and not more channels. That's what most Korean MMO's do here in the West, is have a very small number of channels and limit it to that, but have standard server setups. However clarity is needed.
    Do you think it's language barrier that is causing all the confusion? 

    • Virgina (3 named servers)
    • Frankfurt (2 named servers)

    Seems wiser than

    • Virgina Named Server (3 Channels)
    • Frankfurt Named Server (2 Channels)

    Why would they allow people to jump channels in an RVR OWPVP game? In the event they underestimate the amount of people who'd actually play on launch why would they want everybody fire hosed into the same server and then possibly locked off from their mates?
    I've played several PVP games over the years that permitted channel hopping, which I took advantage of to great effect to avoid gankers.

    Pretty common these days I think.
    As far back as Aion this has been a thing.
    Except Aion, and TERA as well, limited endgame zones to just 1 channel. Only lower level zones had more.
    Kyleran
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    edited May 2018
    Leiloni said:
    Torval said:
    Kyleran said:
    Leiloni said:
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    Yea that part I found confusing. Yesterday in Discord the EU CM Penta the Panther posted in the announcements section the official answer about having 3 and 2 channels which lead most people to assume he meant megaserver. However today's Facebook posts seems to indicate it's just regular servers and not a megaserver.

    I'm inclined to think its not a megaserver because the game is designed for regular servers - you are faction locked to one faction per server, and they also lock faction creation temporarily on each server when it gets too big to balance it out. Both of those things present problems when you have a megaserver, not to mention the OwPvP focused nature of endgame makes megaservers a bit weird.

    I've also heard from other players that the backend does not support a megaserver structure. 

    It's possible any of the above has changed, however it's not likely. So I'd like to get a more clear answer on this. I think what they're probably saying is we're getting a regular server structure with 3 channels for NA and 2 for EU, but that if additional capacity was needed, they'd add more servers and not more channels. That's what most Korean MMO's do here in the West, is have a very small number of channels and limit it to that, but have standard server setups. However clarity is needed.
    Do you think it's language barrier that is causing all the confusion? 

    • Virgina (3 named servers)
    • Frankfurt (2 named servers)

    Seems wiser than

    • Virgina Named Server (3 Channels)
    • Frankfurt Named Server (2 Channels)

    Why would they allow people to jump channels in an RVR OWPVP game? In the event they underestimate the amount of people who'd actually play on launch why would they want everybody fire hosed into the same server and then possibly locked off from their mates?
    I've played several PVP games over the years that permitted channel hopping, which I took advantage of to great effect to avoid gankers.

    Pretty common these days I think.
    As far back as Aion this has been a thing.
    Except Aion, and TERA as well, limited endgame zones to just 1 channel. Only lower level zones had more.
    I burned out around level 44 as I recall when the quest content ran out.

    Pretty much a group or die situation (being a healer) which my son (DPS) went ahead and did so he made it to 50.

    Its also the game which made me realize my days of PUG healing were largely over. 

    I just moved on.

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  • kinkyJalepenokinkyJalepeno Member UncommonPosts: 1,044

    Sovrath said:


    Kyleran said:



    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.

    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.


    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)


    Funny that!

    I live 20 feet from Cambridge MA (remember, this is the Boston area so everything is small and close together). However, I cannot get Fios because my town hasn't been able to work with Verizon.

    The only thing I could do is get Cable but I'm reticent to get cable as I don't really want anything to do with Cable other than internet access.

    If I could move over 20 feet I could SO get better Internet Access.



    Shit state of affairs.. I know people that live in some fairly rough places in Israel, and they routinely get 1GB/s connections to their homes. And us westerners are supposed to be technology leaders.. PFFFFT!
    Kyleran
  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    With all this monetization, I'm starting to wonder why this is in EA again. I mean yeah the game is unfinished but technically every mmorpg is "unfinished" that's kind of the point....From a business perspective I get it though since you're pretty much buying into something knowing its "flawed." Would charge backs not be possible down the line in case monetization changes occurred down the line like they did in BDO? Or did people forget about all the charge backs that occurred when BDO implemented their whole "p2w" system that people originally cried about.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    edited May 2018

    Sovrath said:


    Kyleran said:



    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.

    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.


    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)


    Funny that!

    I live 20 feet from Cambridge MA (remember, this is the Boston area so everything is small and close together). However, I cannot get Fios because my town hasn't been able to work with Verizon.

    The only thing I could do is get Cable but I'm reticent to get cable as I don't really want anything to do with Cable other than internet access.

    If I could move over 20 feet I could SO get better Internet Access.



    Shit state of affairs.. I know people that live in some fairly rough places in Israel, and they routinely get 1GB/s connections to their homes. And us westerners are supposed to be technology leaders.. PFFFFT!
    I think where I live (Florida) is the 3rd world of the internet where to my knowledge no one can get internet speeds faster than 150 M and many have far less.

    Its so bad that Florida lost the movie industry to Georgia (check the credits sometimes how many films are produced there) and one big reason given is Atlanta has a internet backbone much more able to handle the large digital transfers needed by the film industry.


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  • DrDreamDrDream Member UncommonPosts: 237
    I swear people only wanna see MMO's burn anymore screw giving them a chance to do anything. Im hyped for the game sorry for those who wanna worry about a cash shop if your really so worried wait for release or wait for a week after release.
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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,088
    DrDream said:
    I swear people only wanna see MMO's burn anymore screw giving them a chance to do anything. Im hyped for the game sorry for those who wanna worry about a cash shop if your really so worried wait for release or wait for a week after release.
    Great thought, there's a thread for that, but not what is being discussed here (no pre-release download for EA)


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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,981

    Why would they allow people to jump channels in an RVR OWPVP game?
    This isn't the first game to allow this. Heck, you could do this in Aion.
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    Try the "Special Edition." 'Cause it's "Special." https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/64878/?tab=description

    Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo 
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    What is going to add to the fun is, apparently for whatever launch is called there will be only 1 server per region (Virginia & Frankfurt) with 3 channels per server. This is according to all the info collected from Emissary streams.
    Not true, apparently:

    Q: Will Bless have 3 NA and 2 EU servers or channels? Is it 3 servers or 1 server with 3 channels for NA?

    A:  There will be two regions at the beginning of EA: NA and EU. The number of servers in each region is subject to change.


    Read more at https://www.mmorpg.com/bless/news/no-pre-loading-ahead-of-head-start-on-may-28th-1000048571#567dVxohwG60hQ7u.99
    This is the problem with word of mouth.  It's usually bullshit.
  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    edited May 2018
    Torval said:
    I'd be outraged, simply outraged at this if I didn't have gigabit fiber to the house. Our entire county in Oregon is considered rural. The largest town is just over 20k and our county is just a little over 105k. It's one of the few infrastructure priorities we got right. :lol: 

    Hopefully their CDN is fast.
    Hell, rural areas are getting 1gig connections faster than any other part of the country.  Federal grant money + way cheaper than building out say LA metro with the same capability.

    I've got 500mb and that's considered fast in my area even though it's a "big" town as compared to some of the places putting 1g service in like Paragould AR......lol
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  • NildenNilden Member EpicPosts: 3,916
    Of course the game is in early access...

    toy story 3 whatever GIF

    I bet they have a full blown cash shop that works just fine tho.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    DMKano said:
    Kyleran said:
    Dakeru said:
    Kyleran said:
    Well I guess I'll just wait and see what's in the cash shop first before I buy.
    I feel bad for people who bought "headstart", but have slow internet and will probably take them 1-2 days to download the game... so much for the headstart lol.
    People with slow internet should seriously consider moving.

    ;)
    I had this problem for years and I would never move away from the countryside even for the best connection in the world.

    This is a real issue and not offering the client ahead of time is plain bad - period.
    Its not a "real issue" they can just play the game a few days later than other folks.

    If you really cared you would move,  I certainly wouldn't live anywhere with bad internet, heck I avoid going on vacation anywhere with this issue. 

    I don't even care if I play games at launch even.

    ;)

    BTW as mentioned above, this is  Steam EA limitation, so all complaints should be directed to Valve.


    I think that's going a little far. "Bad internet" is ..somewhat subjective,  but in the next 3 years or so with 5G rising, mobile data speeds will easily rival more expensive connection speeds, if only the various infrastructures will be able to handle the load, we could easily see 100MBPS 5G plans (and those would be throttled at 100MBPS) for people with limited access to other plans.

    I'd rather live where I want rather than be tied to where I can get a good internet connection.  I mean, right now my house has 1GBPS fiber...  but I do plan on selling the house soon, and might have to make due with much less. 

    But that doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, it's going to be highly unlikely people will be getting exceptional download speeds once everyone tries to hop in the game at once.  I fear they are going to have long queue times too. 

    The issue with mobile networks is latency not bandwidth.

    Most MMOs use very little bandwidth - its usually less than 200Kbs per client 

    If 5G can really perform at very low latency as claimed - then yes.

    If latency remains high as with current cell tech - its gonna suck for online games.


    Agreed. I've played games by tethering my phone to my laptop, granted speeds now aren't particularly great, but latency was a killer in those situations, sometimes literally. 

    But hopefully what they benchmark in "test conditions" for 5G translates to what we see out in the wild, which is unlikely in the first year or two I'd imagine, in most areas...  but they are saying 1ms or less depending on the hz band. 

    Even if what they promise isn't hit for the masses immediately, it's fairly encouraging. 



  • KajidourdenKajidourden Member EpicPosts: 3,030
    Torval said:
    Torval said:
    I'd be outraged, simply outraged at this if I didn't have gigabit fiber to the house. Our entire county in Oregon is considered rural. The largest town is just over 20k and our county is just a little over 105k. It's one of the few infrastructure priorities we got right. :lol: 

    Hopefully their CDN is fast.
    Hell, rural areas are getting 1gig connections faster than any other part of the country.  Federal grant money + way cheaper than building out say LA metro with the same capability.

    I've got 500mb and that's considered fast in my area even though it's a "big" town as compared to some of the places putting 1g service in like Paragould AR......lol
    We didn't get special Federal grant money. Our county electrical cooperative saw the future and started laying fiber about 10 years ago. Maybe they got grant money for infrastructure improvements, but not as much as "real telecoms" who've been milking their users. It's taken a long time to get all the way to us because they've slowly been expanding that grid over the last decade.

    Big towns and urban municipalities could do it. They need to make it work. We made it work.
    Those are exactly the type of places that are getting grant money.  The example I gave of Paragould, AR is being done by a co-op called PLWC.  Telecoms aren't interested even with the incentive.  The amount is usually only a few million which isn't enough for them to get a worthwhile long-term ROI.
  • berlightberlight Member UncommonPosts: 345
    I have 100mb/s in my 4g+ o.O
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  • hail2dathiefhail2dathief Member UncommonPosts: 232
    When can we actually purchase one of the founders pack so we can play on monday, i don't see them for sale anywhere.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,197
    When can we actually purchase one of the founders pack so we can play on monday, i don't see them for sale anywhere.
    Well, unfortunately it seems you won't be able to purchase it until Monday.  Really weird.. but.. that's when it goes into EA



  • redvettredvett Member CommonPosts: 3
    So what time is the down load and in what time zone????
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