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Squadron 42: Around the Verse - Scanners Aglow, Torpedoes in Tow - Star Citizen Videos - MMORPG.com

Squadron 42 is the subject of this week's Star Citizen: Around the Verse. The episode is hosted by Squadron 42's Narrative Director Dave Haddock and Studio Director LA Eric Kieron Davis. The pair spend time discussing the latest updates for Squadron 42 including ship scanning, radar systems and provide a look at the Aegis Eclipse.

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Voidfarer

Ziiiip

April-Rain

Exciting......

Octagon7711

Looking forward to playing S42.

Seelinnikoi

Octagon7711 said:

Looking forward to playing S42.

You mean your Great Grandchildren?

Wizardry

No matter what the game turns out to be,this greedy team already ruined EVERY chance it has at being a legit game because of the cash shop.This is without saying how far the cash shop will eventually go,no question it is already a joke but will get even worse.
EVERY last item/ship in the cash shop SHOULD have been ONLY in the game world,designed/developed/earned by gamer's inside the game world and via the economy,they do NOT ever belong in a for sale shop that is not even in the game world.
So to me,they can do whatever they want,add this ,create a new stretch goal to delay game even more,promises of grandeur,all it is to me is a cash shop in space.

Vrika

Octagon7711 said:

Looking forward to playing S42.

How many of those ships will even be in Squadron 42?

MaxBacon

Scanning seems more like my thing, not much for the now going to release mining, but for salvaging, space junkyard \o/

Vrika said:

Octagon7711 said:

Looking forward to playing S42.

How many of those ships will even be in Squadron 42?

That list is the PU ships, so it doesn't include SQ42 ones, like especially the Vanduul capitals.

It's not really much of a thing because as SQ42 is an SP campaign you surely will fly several ships but wouldn't be free-roam where you fly anything you want, instead more like ships appearing as part of scenes, fights and such.

Durzax

Wizardry said:

No matter what the game turns out to be,this greedy team already ruined EVERY chance it has at being a legit game because of the cash shop.This is without saying how far the cash shop will eventually go,no question it is already a joke but will get even worse.

EVERY last item/ship in the cash shop SHOULD have been ONLY in the game world,designed/developed/earned by gamer's inside the game world and via the economy,they do NOT ever belong in a for sale shop that is not even in the game world.

So to me,they can do whatever they want,add this ,create a new stretch goal to delay game even more,promises of grandeur,all it is to me is a cash shop in space.

So, is Ashes of Creation, Duel Universe, Crowfall, Camelot Unchained, Chronicles of Elyria, and EVERY other crowdfunded game listed now or that will be listed in the future just as culpable or is it solely reserved for CIG and Star Citizen. How about the games that came before these.
How I wish peoples drivers licenses where required to be visible under peoples avatars at all times.
The amount of snark and arrogance would drop 1000 fold.

Vrika

MaxBacon said:

Vrika said:

Octagon7711 said:

Looking forward to playing S42.

How many of those ships will even be in Squadron 42?

That list is the PU ships, so it doesn't include SQ42 ones, like especially the Vanduul capitals.

It's not really much of a thing because as SQ42 is an SP campaign you surely will fly several ships but wouldn't be free-roam where you fly anything you want, instead more like ships appearing as part of scenes, fights and such.

Yes.

Actually I think I should clarify my question: I was trying to ask why is @Octagon7711 looking forward to playing SQ42 based on a picture of ships that won't be in the game.

JoeBlober

Wizardry said:

No matter what the game turns out to be,this greedy team already ruined EVERY chance it has at being a legit game because of the cash shop.This is without saying how far the cash shop will eventually go,no question it is already a joke but will get even worse.

EVERY last item/ship in the cash shop SHOULD have been ONLY in the game world,designed/developed/earned by gamer's inside the game world and via the economy,they do NOT ever belong in a for sale shop that is not even in the game world.

So to me,they can do whatever they want,add this ,create a new stretch goal to delay game even more,promises of grandeur,all it is to me is a cash shop in space.

How to sat that... Frotnite made 300M$ in one single month salleing skins. Which is an average of 100$ per conccurent players... one month.

SQ42 and SC got 187M$ in 6 years to create something never done by anyone. It is coming, 3.1.4 right in PU. New major in 30 days. By the way There are no new strech goal for 3 years and half. Finance model of SC is from start Kickstarter model, hence selling things that are not availlable by definition. When released, pledges ships will disapear and will be replaced by micro-transactions and they will make even more cash

Clearly Crowdfunding model is not for you. Do not worry, +700.000 Backers and growing every day ensure the project come to fruition as expected.

Aethaeryn

JoeBlober said:

Wizardry said:

So to me,they can do whatever they want,add this ,create a new stretch goal to delay game even more,promises of grandeur,all it is to me is a cash shop in space.

Clearly Crowdfunding model is not for you. Do not worry, +700.000 Backers and growing every day ensure the project come to fruition as expected.

I'll comment on this bit.  It has to grow to even continue development.  They need to keep the pace up to how fast they spend money.   "growing" doesn't mean keeping up with costs.  I am sure it is but there is no way to know if it will launch "as expected".  I agree that they are likely close enough to launch something.  I just want SQ42.

Vrika

JoeBlober said:

How to sat that... Frotnite made 300M$ in one single month salleing skins. Which is an average of 100$ per conccurent players... one month.

To put it in perspective, that's 14 cents per hour played.

Octagon7711

Vrika said:

MaxBacon said:

Vrika said:

Octagon7711 said:

Looking forward to playing S42.

How many of those ships will even be in Squadron 42?

That list is the PU ships, so it doesn't include SQ42 ones, like especially the Vanduul capitals.

It's not really much of a thing because as SQ42 is an SP campaign you surely will fly several ships but wouldn't be free-roam where you fly anything you want, instead more like ships appearing as part of scenes, fights and such.

Yes.

Actually I think I should clarify my question: I was trying to ask why is @Octagon7711 looking forward to playing SQ42 based on a picture of ships that won't be in the game.

I'm looking forward to flying some ships in S42 but because the games not nearly finished I don't know for sure which ships will actually be in the game so I included them all

Octagon7711

JoeBlober said:

Wizardry said:

No matter what the game turns out to be,this greedy team already ruined EVERY chance it has at being a legit game because of the cash shop.This is without saying how far the cash shop will eventually go,no question it is already a joke but will get even worse.

EVERY last item/ship in the cash shop SHOULD have been ONLY in the game world,designed/developed/earned by gamer's inside the game world and via the economy,they do NOT ever belong in a for sale shop that is not even in the game world.

So to me,they can do whatever they want,add this ,create a new stretch goal to delay game even more,promises of grandeur,all it is to me is a cash shop in space.

How to sat that... Frotnite made 300M$ in one single month salleing skins. Which is an average of 100$ per conccurent players... one month.

SQ42 and SC got 187M$ in 6 years to create something never done by anyone. It is coming, 3.1.4 right in PU. New major in 30 days. By the way There are no new strech goal for 3 years and half. Finance model of SC is from start Kickstarter model, hence selling things that are not availlable by definition. When released, pledges ships will disapear and will be replaced by micro-transactions and they will make even more cash

Clearly Crowdfunding model is not for you. Do not worry, +700.000 Backers and growing every day ensure the project come to fruition as expected.

One thing a streamer said that was true is that independent developers mostly pitch the creative side of there plans and very rarely talk about their past experience in money and business management.  Yet the ability to efficiently manage the money aspect of a project is key as to how successful it will be.

JoeBlober

Vrika said:

JoeBlober said:

How to sat that... Frotnite made 300M$ in one single month salleing skins. Which is an average of 100$ per conccurent players... one month.

To put it in perspective, that's 14 cents per hour played.

so 100$ / 744 hours got it.

Now pick those 270$ per members of a SC Org, this is not for a month but for a life project. They don't pay 270$ per month. So the 270$ could be divided by 744 hours x (insert any value) years. That would give 0.03 cts per hour for a year.
We can play with number to show what we want to show at the end of the day, except for few whales, backers are going to enjoy a unique game with a pledge amount between 45 to 100$ per head. While a WOW player do spend +200$ per year.

CIG is not the evil some love to depict...

Vrika

JoeBlober said:

Vrika said:

JoeBlober said:

How to sat that... Frotnite made 300M$ in one single month salleing skins. Which is an average of 100$ per conccurent players... one month.

To put it in perspective, that's 14 cents per hour played.

so 100$ / 744 hours got it.

Now pick those 270$ per members of a SC Org, this is not for a month but for a life project. They don't pay 270$ per month. So the 270$ could be divided by 744 hours x (insert any value) years. That would give 0.03 cts per hour for a year.

To get 0.03 cents per hour your $270 backer would have to play 900 000 hours. Average human lifespan is less than 700 000 hours.

Cotic

JoeBlober said:

Vrika said:

JoeBlober said:

How to sat that... Frotnite made 300M$ in one single month salleing skins. Which is an average of 100$ per conccurent players... one month.

To put it in perspective, that's 14 cents per hour played.

so 100$ / 744 hours got it.



Now pick those 270$ per members of a SC Org, this is not for a month but for a life project. They don't pay 270$ per month. So the 270$ could be divided by 744 hours x (insert any value) years. That would give 0.03 cts per hour for a year.

We can play with number to show what we want to show at the end of the day, except for few whales, backers are going to enjoy a unique game with a pledge amount between 45 to 100$ per head. While a WOW player do spend +200$ per year.



CIG is not the evil some love to depict...

And the person that spends $27,000 just on themself? Or the person that spends $15,000? or the person that spends $5000? How many hours will they need to play?

The comparisons with Fortnite or World of Warcraft strikes me as mental gymnastics to legitimize something that has no comparison at all. Are there any organisations in Star Citizen that have confirmed they are pooling their money on a $27,000 pixel pack or is it just some non-existent outlier being used to make it sound like an acceptable, legitimate purchase?

hfztt

JoeBlober said:

We can play with number to show what we want to show at the end of the day, except for few whales, backers are going to enjoy a unique game with a pledge amount between 45 to 100$ per head. While a WOW player do spend +200$ per year.

CIG is not the evil some love to depict...

You seriously think that SC will not end up having a monthly sub? Really? How do you imagine they will pay for servers, support staff and the electrical bill when all the money has gone into development?

Remember they cannot sell ships after release, as that is the one thing they HAVE promised not to do.

There will be a price to play on the "mmo" servers. Trust me on this one. Either a sub or something similar. No way they can keep this running as B2P.

Octagon7711

hfztt said:

JoeBlober said:

We can play with number to show what we want to show at the end of the day, except for few whales, backers are going to enjoy a unique game with a pledge amount between 45 to 100$ per head. While a WOW player do spend +200$ per year.

CIG is not the evil some love to depict...

You seriously think that SC will not end up having a monthly sub? Really? How do you imagine they will pay for servers, support staff and the electrical bill when all the money has gone into development?

Remember they cannot sell ships after release, as that is the one thing they HAVE promised not to do.

There will be a price to play on the "mmo" servers. Trust me on this one. Either a sub or something similar. No way they can keep this running as B2P.

Actually they can sell ships after release and some people are expecting them to.  Yes it means doing something other than what they said they would do but it won't be the first time.  

One thing for sure, new players will need to buy at least ship starter packages.  So those will be for sale.