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Game Balance Adjustments Deployed in Latest Update - Bless - MMORPG.com

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Bless News - The Bless Online team has posted the patch notes for v1.0.0.8 that bring a number of game balance adjustments to bear. The updates have been applied to Peninsular War, monster abilities, class skills and to quest rewards. In addition, some translation errors have been corrected and an update to the Special Shop has been applied.

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  • RhomsRhoms Member UncommonPosts: 174
    edited June 2018
    This is good info. I like the continued momentum in a positive direction, and if things keep moving forward, I would love to give the game a try. Have they fixed the duping?
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    Thank you Neowiz. 
    MrMelGibson
  • summerstringssummerstrings Member UncommonPosts: 76
    I'm glad I decided to hold fire on buying this game because the launch does seem to be a bit of a disaster but its good to see they are moving forward and improving things for players . It will be hard to turn things around though given the amount of negativity now surrounding the game . I doubt I would buy it even if they sort it out unless their is a drastic reduction in price .
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  • KelarleeKelarlee Member UncommonPosts: 25
    I was waiting this game, but saw all this negative reviews and decided to not buy this game until they fix most of the problems that game has. Meanwhile i returned to GW2 and enjoyed it even more much than it was before (last time i played in 2014). And it was a realy funny moment, when in starting location i saw in chat message like this "Bless refugees guild is recruiting, helping new players bla bla bla" that makes me laugh.
  • NaitakalNaitakal Member UncommonPosts: 74
    The game is actually good fun, I enjoy it alot. Communication from Neowiz is great too so far and the updates are frequent. Only thing I dislike are the long waiting times in the login queue for my server. ^^
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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006
    Give players the choice of whether or not to use the action camera on all classes please. I'm not buying it until that happens. :)

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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    edited June 2018
    Give players the choice of whether or not to use the action camera on all classes please. I'm not buying it until that happens. :)

    Still coming but Paladin will not be getting it. :*

    https://steamcommunity.com/games/681660/announcements/detail/1653264683502764921

    Action Targeting Mode
    Lastly, I present to you our plans for the action targeting mode. During the development process, we found that we cannot guarantee optimal control of the action targeting mode for all classes, except for the Berserker. We plan to make it possible for other classes to use action targeting as soon as we solve these gameplay problems (except for the Paladin class which will only have tab-targeting). However, this adjustment is currently pushed back as we are focusing on stabilization and balance. We will provide you with more information once we have determined a time frame for the action targeting mode update.
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  • SignexSignex Member UncommonPosts: 319
    edited June 2018
    Have they fixed the dmg side of the Ranger? Maybe it's cause i'm still lvl6 but i can barely kill a normal NPC not to mention run out of energy in like a few seconds. It's like they nerfed the dmg output by 3x.
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    edited June 2018
    Signex said:
    Have they fixed the dmg side of the Ranger? Maybe it's cause i'm still lvl6 but i can barely kill a normal NPC not to mention run out of energy in like a few seconds. It's like they nerfed the dmg output by 3x.
    The combat was just going around 2 shoting everything before they changed it which resulted in people not learning how to correctly play. 




    Use your stance switches to regain stamina and remember that you are trying to maximize damage by using chains / combos. 




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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    DMKano said:

    Mikeha said:

    Thank you Neowiz. 



    You play a ranger - and you realize Ranger is still busted?

    Never understood thanking the devs who completely broke your class, and did little to actually get it back where Rangers are supposed to be.

    Maybe save your thanks for when they are actually deserving of it - I know crazy concept.


    My class is busted? Where did you see me ever complain about Ranger? 

    I love the hell out of my class. 
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  • RemyVorenderRemyVorender Member RarePosts: 4,006

    Mikeha said:



    Give players the choice of whether or not to use the action camera on all classes please. I'm not buying it until that happens. :)


    Still coming but Paladin will not be getting it. :*

    https://steamcommunity.com/games/681660/announcements/detail/1653264683502764921

    Action Targeting Mode
    Lastly, I present to you our plans for the action targeting mode. During the development process, we found that we cannot guarantee optimal control of the action targeting mode for all classes, except for the Berserker. We plan to make it possible for other classes to use action targeting as soon as we solve these gameplay problems (except for the Paladin class which will only have tab-targeting). However, this adjustment is currently pushed back as we are focusing on stabilization and balance. We will provide you with more information once we have determined a time frame for the action targeting mode update.



    Doh. I wanted to play Paladin. Lamesauce.

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  • IceDarkIceDark Member UncommonPosts: 207

    DMKano said:



    Mikeha said:


    Thank you Neowiz. 






    You play a ranger - and you realize Ranger is still busted?



    Never understood thanking the devs who completely broke your class, and did little to actually get it back where Rangers are supposed to be.



    Maybe save your thanks for when they are actually deserving of it - I know crazy concept.






    Seriously ? Wow man ..

    QQ more , pl0x !
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  • MikehaMikeha Member EpicPosts: 9,196
    DMKano said:
    Mikeha said:
    DMKano said:

    Mikeha said:

    Thank you Neowiz. 



    You play a ranger - and you realize Ranger is still busted?

    Never understood thanking the devs who completely broke your class, and did little to actually get it back where Rangers are supposed to be.

    Maybe save your thanks for when they are actually deserving of it - I know crazy concept.


    My class is busted? Where did you see me ever complain about Ranger? 

    I love the hell out of my class. 

    Doesn't change the fact that they broke ranger entirely.

    Even after todays fixes - it still remains broken - oh btw:

    The ranger 5s fix is not correct for all chain steps

    time between 3rd and 4th chain still is 2 seconds, not 5 - so they didn't even get that right 



    Thats YOUR opinion.  Sorry but I don't share it. 

    I am talking about My Ranger and mine is not broken. I still feel that its too easy to kill stuff. ;)
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  • AriesTigerAriesTiger Member UncommonPosts: 444


    I'm glad I decided to hold fire on buying this game because the launch does seem to be a bit of a disaster but its good to see they are moving forward and improving things for players . It will be hard to turn things around though given the amount of negativity now surrounding the game . I doubt I would buy it even if they sort it out unless their is a drastic reduction in price .



    Be honest you never intended to buy it "full price" even if it was a great game.
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  • couponforkcouponfork Member UncommonPosts: 114
    This game is basically a crappy, less pretty version of FFXIV. Just invest in that, at least SE didn't fuck up the second release TOO.
  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,939
    This game is basically a crappy, less pretty version of FFXIV. Just invest in that, at least SE didn't fuck up the second release TOO.
    No matter what one things about Bless, it's nothing like Final Fantasy IV.
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  • MagikarpsGhostMagikarpsGhost Member RarePosts: 689

    Signex said:

    Have they fixed the dmg side of the Ranger? Maybe it's cause i'm still lvl6 but i can barely kill a normal NPC not to mention run out of energy in like a few seconds.
    It's like they nerfed the dmg output by 3x.



    Swap between stances you will kill things quickly. And dirty but at level 6 you have little to no combos. Around 17 is when my ranger started to shine.

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  • MagikarpsGhostMagikarpsGhost Member RarePosts: 689

    Mikeha said:


    DMKano said:


    Mikeha said:


    DMKano said:



    Mikeha said:


    Thank you Neowiz. 






    You play a ranger - and you realize Ranger is still busted?



    Never understood thanking the devs who completely broke your class, and did little to actually get it back where Rangers are supposed to be.



    Maybe save your thanks for when they are actually deserving of it - I know crazy concept.





    My class is busted? Where did you see me ever complain about Ranger? 

    I love the hell out of my class. 



    Doesn't change the fact that they broke ranger entirely.

    Even after todays fixes - it still remains broken - oh btw:

    The ranger 5s fix is not correct for all chain steps

    time between 3rd and 4th chain still is 2 seconds, not 5 - so they didn't even get that right 




    Thats YOUR opinion.  Sorry but I don't share it. 

    I am talking about My Ranger and mine is not broken. I still feel that its too easy to kill stuff. ;)



    Most people who complain about rangerrand mage being broken sure to DMG decrease are those who have it in their minds that one shotting things 10 lvls higher is how they are played. They don't want to bother learning how to actually play their class lol.

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Knee jerk reactions again on the class balance. 7 seconds on biting cold? that's a combo opener... 7 seconds before you can unlock some necessary combos to make ice tactics usable?  

    No nerf to paladins at all?  The one class that can outlast pretty much every other class? They are already quite overpowered in PvP, they have a full crowd control set that puts out a lot of damage.

    Then they increase CD on guardian to a crazy degree, and they weren't overpowered in PvP, they just had a stun that had too short of a CD, but they increased it way too much.


    They went too far again.
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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195
    Torval said:
    Knee jerk reactions again on the class balance. 7 seconds on biting cold? that's a combo opener... 7 seconds before you can unlock some necessary combos to make ice tactics usable?  

    No nerf to paladins at all?  The one class that can outlast pretty much every other class? They are already quite overpowered in PvP, they have a full crowd control set that puts out a lot of damage.

    Then they increase CD on guardian to a crazy degree, and they weren't overpowered in PvP, they just had a stun that had too short of a CD, but they increased it way too much.


    They went too far again.
    Interesting. In my opinion CC is king in a PvP game. You can't kill what you can't touch. That's why I switched over to Pally. They have mega utility and survivability. I love that. I expected that from the mage. I'll still level the mage later though and see if it blossoms at 45.
    I'll hit 45 on my mage some time today, I also rolled a pally, I have one of each class on several servers so I could get a feel for all of them.  Paladins at max level are just very tough to kill.  Not only do they have heals and crowd control, but they also have entire negation effects that don't use mana, and enough range and utility that it doesn't matter what class you fight against you can enact a strategy to beat it.


    You can't do that on a Mage.  You're already pretty flimsy, you have some crowd control, but very little and your best one is hidden in a 3rd combo slot, and there are way too many chances for you to miss, get crowd controlled or run out of mana (if you're using mana shield) to get it off.  Now they increase the CD of biting cold which makes it even less likely to use that combo. 


    Mage has potential, they have a lot of underlying things that could make it a good class, but they seem to mess it up all too frequently.  If it's supposed to be a glass cannon, then up the damage to outpace the Pally and the Guardian, or in the very least give the mage MORE range than the pally,  simply because their ranged attacks that do very good damage will also CC you, and mage has nothing to counter it without blowing a ton of mana really quickly. 


    Balance is probably more key in this game than others because 1 - there are too few of classes and viable builds   and 2 - you're forced to fight other players.


    Because you're forced to fight other players, its frustrating to always be on the losing end when you're fighting a class that can heal, crowd control and put out as much damage as you.

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  • HighMarshalHighMarshal Member UncommonPosts: 415
    I imagine that the no action combat for the paladin is what they will go for with the healing classes. I imagine it is a bit hard in pvp to heal someone who is jumping around like a rabbit on speed while a bunch of other idiots are also doing the same between you and the person you are trying to heal.
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  • SephirosoSephiroso Member RarePosts: 2,020
    I imagine that the no action combat for the paladin is what they will go for with the healing classes. I imagine it is a bit hard in pvp to heal someone who is jumping around like a rabbit on speed while a bunch of other idiots are also doing the same between you and the person you are trying to heal.
    Tera and Wildstar managed just fine with healing chars and action combat.
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  • drsinisterdrsinister Member UncommonPosts: 42
    What sucks for Guardian, its a pain to chain 6 skills is that our swap is on a 10s CD. When I heard other classes are 4-6 secs. Buy the time I get done with my 6 skill chain I have to wait 2-3 secs more before I can swap again. But I guess it is what it is for now.
    Mikeha
  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039
    edited June 2018

    Torval said:



    Knee jerk reactions again on the class balance. 7 seconds on biting cold? that's a combo opener... 7 seconds before you can unlock some necessary combos to make ice tactics usable?  

    No nerf to paladins at all?  The one class that can outlast pretty much every other class? They are already quite overpowered in PvP, they have a full crowd control set that puts out a lot of damage.

    Then they increase CD on guardian to a crazy degree, and they weren't overpowered in PvP, they just had a stun that had too short of a CD, but they increased it way too much.


    They went too far again.


    Interesting. In my opinion CC is king in a PvP game. You can't kill what you can't touch. That's why I switched over to Pally. They have mega utility and survivability. I love that. I expected that from the mage. I'll still level the mage later though and see if it blossoms at 45.



    Awesome, we will destroy the opposition with our pally and zerker duo! You stun, I'll crush their dome piece lol.
  • hyllyhhyllyh Member UncommonPosts: 477

    just lol this game :)
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