Whales are leaving the boat ?

LeFantome

In the last 3 begathons, they had an average of 30K -35K , we are far from their famous 100K.
Are the whales quitting this sinking boat?
If so, how are they going to complete chapter 2-3-4-5 if they don't have money..

I foresee a glorious end.


The amount raised by the time this update was sent out at 10:15 PM CDT on Friday August 3rd was an amazing: 35K 
https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/?p=97343#56Livestream

Quizzical

Because whales are known for living in boats?  If trapped in a boat, I'd think that a whale would want the boat to sink at least so that it can be in the water.  Yes, they need to surface periodically to get oxygen, but whales can't just dry out like they would if on a boat.

Basically, your metaphor doesn't work.

mgilbrtsn

Leaving a sinking ship isn't really a metaphor anymore is it? It's entered the realm of a 'saying' right?  Not not picking, I'm actually curious if when you enter one realm, you leave the other, or do they both apply.  Total derailment I know.

Kyleran

Personally I see no point in dancing over graves.

Albatroes

Kyleran said:

Personally I see no point in dancing over graves.

I'd gladly dance on this game's grave since "Lord British" thought he was so good to sell his blood and trying to profit off of his dead mother.

Nilden

The boats of Fantasy

and reality...

Oh and it's not dead yet Jim!

Even tho half the staff got laid off, don't start dancing yet @Kyleran !
They can probably keep this thing afloat for a while.

I mean there are probably millions of people who just don't know about this new Richard Garriott game.

nuk nuk nuk

blorpykins

Whales beach themselves, rats leave sinking ships.

Pemmin

Kyleran said:

Personally I see no point in dancing over graves.

probably smart move dead whales explode

Ungood

Always Sad to see another MMO hit grave yard.. but it is what it is.. the Zapper is always ready for more.

Aethaeryn

Ungood said:

Always Sad to see another MMO hit grave yard.. but it is what it is.. the Zapper is always ready for more.

I am not sure it got off the ground enough to have hit the grave.

Renoaku

Yep whales eventually jump ship when a game company goes in the wrong direction in development.

Or they are no longer feeling like it's going to be a good game because of upcoming games.

TheScavenger

I think if he sold jpeg images for 1000 dollars each, they'd get more money. They can be jpeg images of richard garriot himself. 

jusomdude

TheScavenger said:

I think if he sold jpeg images for 1000 dollars each, they'd get more money. They can be jpeg images of richard garriot himself. 

A game where we can dress him up in various medieval armors like those old flash games would probably perform better than SotA. Then we can send him on quests in our imagination and stuff.

Renoaku

He should totally bring back "Tabula Rasa" the best game I liked  );...

So if Shround of the Avatar fails, then it will make 2 games closed down?

Ungood

Aethaeryn said:

Ungood said:

Always Sad to see another MMO hit grave yard.. but it is what it is.. the Zapper is always ready for more.

I am not sure it got off the ground enough to have hit the grave.

Fair Point.. but it does say it's playable right now on the Official Site. In what state, I am not sure. So.. yah.. gonna pass on that discussion.

jusomdude

I liked Tabula Rasa too, but only played a little in beta. Wonder if he'll throw in the towel if SotA does fail.

craftseeker

Quizzical said:

Because whales are known for living in boats?  If trapped in a boat, I'd think that a whale would want the boat to sink at least so that it can be in the water.  Yes, they need to surface periodically to get oxygen, but whales can't just dry out like they would if on a boat.

Basically, your metaphor doesn't work.

Well there is the NisshinMaru, a Japanese factory ship for whaling. That's a whale disappearing up the ramp!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Japan_Factory_Ship_Nisshin_Maru_Whaling_Mother_and_Calf.jpg

F2Plague

craftseeker said:

Quizzical said:

Because whales are known for living in boats?  If trapped in a boat, I'd think that a whale would want the boat to sink at least so that it can be in the water.  Yes, they need to surface periodically to get oxygen, but whales can't just dry out like they would if on a boat.

Basically, your metaphor doesn't work.

Well there is the NisshinMaru, a Japanese factory ship for whaling. That's a whale disappearing up the ramp!
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Japan_Factory_Ship_Nisshin_Maru_Whaling_Mother_and_Calf.jpg

Thought for sure it was a Giraffe. Thank you for clarifying.

blorpykins

Renoaku said:

He should totally bring back "Tabula Rasa" the best game I liked  );...

So if Shround of the Avatar fails, then it will make 2 games closed down?

Shroud of the Avatar will be four failed games in a row.

Tabula Rasa, fail
Port Casino Poker, fail
Ultimate Collector, fail
Shroud of the Avatar, failing

For your viewing pleasure:

MightyUnclean

blorpykins said:

Renoaku said:

He should totally bring back "Tabula Rasa" the best game I liked  );...

So if Shround of the Avatar fails, then it will make 2 games closed down?

Shroud of the Avatar will be four failed games in a row.

Tabula Rasa, fail
Port Casino Poker, fail
Ultimate Collector, fail
Shroud of the Avatar, failing

For your viewing pleasure:

RG has the money to collect shrunken heads and vampire hunting kits to decorate his mansion, but won't finance his own games.  Smart, but not very virtuous.  How the hell did I ever get suckered into backing SotA?  I sincerely hope people don't fall for his schemes in the future.  The man I thought created the Ultima series is gone, if he ever was.

DracSchnider

Whales are not leaving. they have broken up the telethons 4 per month.   All the whales I know are still there kicking strong, I know at least 3 that are no holidays this month so I expect things to slow down.  Not to mention subscriptions now which automatically get you all the telethon items so less people are probably spending every month just because there is no pull to have to use the store.  Is it sinking... nope.  just about to see a huge surge next patch

MightyUnclean

DracSchnider said:

Whales are not leaving. they have broken up the telethons 4 per month.   All the whales I know are still there kicking strong, I know at least 3 that are no holidays this month so I expect things to slow down.  Not to mention subscriptions now which automatically get you all the telethon items so less people are probably spending every month just because there is no pull to have to use the store.  Is it sinking... nope.  just about to see a huge surge next patch

Maybe, if by "huge surge" you mean seven people.

Octagon7711

I would actually look into this game if he added Dragon Mounts and shape shifting.

postlarval

Starr Long, July 25:

"I've jumped in a couple of threads lately to express my thoughts. The threads were VERY different. One was highly critical, the other was highly loyal. What I want to point out to everyone is that both have their place here, both are welcome. Please do not try to chase away either one. Our only path forward is one in which we can unite our community, not one in which we divide ourselves into white knights and black knights. Remember that the people taking the time to critique the game are doing it because they want the game to be better and they care. Those of you defending the game please try to remember that in your debates with them. On the other hand those of you critiquing the game please try to remember that those defending the game love the game as much as you do!"

https://www.shroudoftheavatar.com/forum/index.php?threads/shrouds-status-criticism-healthy-debate-the-future.135916/

WTF?!? They spent years alienating anyone who dared criticize the game and this is the best that sniveling little troll can manage? 

Hey Starr, put your money where your mouth is, little boy. Unban all those players that cow FireLotus and that snowflake Berek obliterated just because they said something negative about the game.

Anything else is just more of your worthless bullshit.

The game must be tanking hard for him to even bother saying that. Game over. Shove it in the garbage bin.

Vorthanion

A polished turd is still a turd.  I don't want games like this to succeed for the health and well being of future MMORPG's.  Games designed around virtual sales are no better than the "in your face" free to play games with their lovely immersion killing roadblocks and monthly cash shop sales.  I want the good old days when developers tried to make good games to earn their money.  Now it's just an exercise in greed with psychologically twisted game mechanics and cash shops as content.

JamesGoblin

Octagon7711 said:

I would actually look into this game if he added Dragon Mounts and shape shifting.

A little technical problem is that there's no game, to which he would then attach mounts and stuff.

Actually, he is already washing his hands of SotA - not mentioning it at all in his recent interviews and public appearances, pretending that it never existed; Which is, in a sad way, true.