Yes im a little worried, one of the things that kept me 12 years in EvE was ccp, but, if they are a wholly independent subsidury then thy will still be in charge of the game. Of course the cash-shop is a worry, but i cannot see how with the current gameplay how a p2w will be added. Given we already have skill injectors / plex / skins i cannot see how things can change, if your real life rich you can buy a fully maxed out toon for just £25,000 or so, so that doesn't change, the fact you can theen log in and get owned as you suck, so how does that change? There is no enhancement in EvE like bdo for gear, i played BDO for the first 12 months until it got to point that gear score was just about the cash you put in... So will be interesting to see how the venture will go.
Im sure lots of people will jump on the p2w of PA, but lets give this time, i would expect to see some impact by maybe next summer/autumn on how PA are involved, only then will we know if its the death or even 'rebirth' of EvE.
Obviously i hope its the latter, as im also sure that 99% of people on this forum do, the one thing EvE has which most pople agree with is the fact they showed that a small team and a niche game can survive over time lets hope that PA don't destroy what 1000s off people have built up over 15 years
Hopefully this makes Spreadsheets-In-Space more playable for the masses instead of the diehard zealots that currently play it. I stopped playing EVE years ago because I decided that I cared about all the work I decided to put into the game and a large portion of the game's population decided that the mentality of an 8 year old playground bully is more fun.
On the other hand, it could also make BDO that much worse, but then again I haven't played BDO in a year or so either, though I was considering trying it out again with all the changes incoming.
Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.
Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.
So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever
XD What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done.
Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP.
Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
I mean this doesn't mean THAT much... Yet. I'm sure they will want their investment back, but doesn't Eve already have the option to buy things for money and sell them for ISK? I don't know what else they could really add that would change that drastically. Maybe directly buying skill upgrades for money?
Ugh, I'm currently playing Eve and have been on and off for 13 years. I can tell you the sentiment and overall reaction to this by the community is not good. I've played BDO and don't want that type of game development or management in anything I play.
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Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.
Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.
So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever
XD What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done.
Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP.
Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
Everquest 1 - 989 Studios - ushered a whole new genre of 3D MMORPGs - there wouldn't be BDO without these guys most likely
Asheron's Call 1 - turbine
Anarchy Online - Funcom
basically any gen1 MMORPG
how about that, hmm?
As far as non-MMO games with original IPs that made it huge
League of Legends - RIOT
or
Diablo - Blizzard
Starcraft - Blizzard
etc...
Please stop making a big deal out of something that has been done for 15+ years before Pearl Abyss even existed.
Heck even take a small company like Trion - their first game was Rift - unknown IP, unknown company - they made $100million in the first 6 months of Rift launch.
Does that count?
Please provide links to any of the companies you named who had no prior gaming history and made a MMO as successful as BDO and are now as successful a company as Pearl because of that game.
Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.
Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.
So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever
XD What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done.
Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP.
Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
Everquest 1 - 989 Studios - ushered a whole new genre of 3D MMORPGs - there wouldn't be BDO without these guys most likely
Asheron's Call 1 - turbine
Anarchy Online - Funcom
basically any gen1 MMORPG
how about that, hmm?
As far as non-MMO games with original IPs that made it huge
League of Legends - RIOT
or
Diablo - Blizzard
Starcraft - Blizzard
etc...
Please stop making a big deal out of something that has been done for 15+ years before Pearl Abyss even existed.
Heck even take a small company like Trion - their first game was Rift - unknown IP, unknown company - they made $100million in the first 6 months of Rift launch.
Does that count?
Everquest was developed by Sony Online Entertainment.
No, it was not.
It was PUBLISHED by SOE, it was developed by 989 studios and Verant interactive.
It is a funny world we live in. We had Empires run by Emperors, we had Kingdoms run by Kings, now we have Countries...
Started out with 7 people. Made 1 game which was their 1st game and look at them now. Take notes, this is how its done.
Every successful company has small roots - I am yet to hear of a company that starts of as s billion dollar 50,000 employee company on day 1 from scratch.
So "this is how its done" - literally every successful business ever
XD What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done.
Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP.
Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
Hmm, besides CCP? Not sure.
Well to be honest they did create a board game first to help fund the MMO.
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Started out with 7 people. Put all they had into 1 game and now look at them. Take notes, this is how its done.
Of course the cash-shop is a worry, but i cannot see how with the current gameplay how a p2w will be added.
Given we already have skill injectors / plex / skins i cannot see how things can change, if your real life rich you can buy a fully maxed out toon for just £25,000 or so, so that doesn't change, the fact you can theen log in and get owned as you suck, so how does that change?
There is no enhancement in EvE like bdo for gear, i played BDO for the first 12 months until it got to point that gear score was just about the cash you put in... So will be interesting to see how the venture will go.
Im sure lots of people will jump on the p2w of PA, but lets give this time, i would expect to see some impact by maybe next summer/autumn on how PA are involved, only then will we know if its the death or even 'rebirth' of EvE.
Obviously i hope its the latter, as im also sure that 99% of people on this forum do, the one thing EvE has which most pople agree with is the fact they showed that a small team and a niche game can survive over time lets hope that PA don't destroy what 1000s off people have built up over 15 years
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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On the other hand, it could also make BDO that much worse, but then again I haven't played BDO in a year or so either, though I was considering trying it out again with all the changes incoming.
There's always the tiny, miniscule chance this could NOT turn into a giant train wreck dumpster fire... but I'm not willing to bet on that.
buy +1 skills for plex, so instead of +5 being max you can buy upto +3 levels for cash *sarcasm*
This post is all my opinion, but I welcome debate on anything i have put, however, personal slander / name calling belongs in game
where of course you're welcome to call me names im often found lounging about in EvE online.
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XD
What company made their 1st game which was a mmo that went on to be as successful as BDO and has done what Pearl has done.
Pearl was an unknown company and made Black Desert which was a brand new unknown IP.
Not talking about roots. What other company did what Pearl has done.?
They named the latest expansion "Into the Abyss", then sold their company to Pearl Abyss !
Priceless !
I'll give you $1.
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Maybe BDO will get spaceships.
It was PUBLISHED by SOE, it was developed by 989 studios and Verant interactive.
We had Empires run by Emperors, we had Kingdoms run by Kings, now we have Countries...
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Well to be honest they did create a board game first to help fund the MMO.
Found another, Turbine with Asherons Call.
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