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Why no triple A subscription based MMO coming out? Read now. You won't believe what I find out!

TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
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I know there are indie MMOs coming out. But all of them are either buy to play or free to play with cash shops or...they are indie titles.

Are there any actual MMOs in development that are triple A titles that include a forced subscription?

The problem I have with cash shops is I have a bad habit of seeing a shiny and wanting to buy it. This is true for GW2 and BDO.

Sure that benefits the company, but is bad for a gambling addict like I am.

The last big subscription title is FFXIV. Every other ones are optional subs but heavily cash shopped.

Currently I play WoW...but surely there has to be other big companies still wanting to make sub based MMOs and don't want to take advantage of gambling addicts?

Or is WoW/FFXIV the last big subscription based MMOs?

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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078
    "Read now. You won't believe what I find out!"
    Uhmm so what did you find out? I only clicked to find out what you found out.
    VestigeGamerIselinEl-HefeZorlofe[Deleted User]EponyxDamormikeb0817bartoni33craftseekerPhryand 7 others.
  • UngoodUngood Member LegendaryPosts: 7,534
    It's kinda hard to get people to spend a sub for the "joy of accessing the game" when they can get other games for free.
    Theocrituslaxie
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Asheram said:
    "Read now. You won't believe what I find out!"
    Uhmm so what did you find out? I only clicked to find out what you found out.
    Well I was future proofing the thread title in case someone knows of a subscription based MMO coming out by a Triple A company that I wasn't aware of. Or if there is indeed none being made.
    mikeb0817madazz

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,952
    edited September 2018

    Read now. You won't believe what I find out!

    wtf

    Also "forced subscription"?

    really?
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Ungood said:
    It's kinda hard to get people to spend a sub for the "joy of accessing the game" when they can get other games for free.
    Well, that is why trials and stuff. Plus most people that complain about subscriptions go on to pay 100s or 1000s of dollars on cash shops every month.

    its like someone who will drive 20 extra miles to pay for cheaper gas, but actually its more expensive because you just paid more to get to that gas station.

    And people still pay for subs...FFXIV is doing really well, and WoW is still top #1 MMO.

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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078
    TheScavenger said:
    Asheram said:
    "Read now. You won't believe what I find out!"
    Uhmm so what did you find out? I only clicked to find out what you found out.
    Well I was future proofing the thread title in case someone knows of a subscription based MMO coming out by a Triple A company that I wasn't aware of. Or if there is indeed none being made.
    Well let me know when you find it out.
    Sovrath
  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657



    *rolls over, covers eyes and goes back to sleep.
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Wonder why Asheram got banned? I didn't see any posts of his/hers that looked ban worthy. Unless the post got deleted.
    Asheram

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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078
    heh I didnt I trying be funny I should change avatar was just getting bored with rosspool.
  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Asheram said:
    heh I didnt I trying be funny I should change avatar was just getting bored with rosspool.
    Oh rofl. It looked like a legit got banned thing. You got me good :P
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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    What I think you just found out - and you're pretty late to that party - is that click-bait titles generate clicks. 
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  • AsheramAsheram Member EpicPosts: 5,078


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  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,021
    FFXIV was free when I played it (which wasnt long)...I wouldnt pay $1 a month for that game.
  • some-clueless-guysome-clueless-guy Member UncommonPosts: 227
    The internet would be so much better without these fucking clickbaits and shitposts everywhere.
    ZorlofeAsheramYashaX
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    some-clueless-guy said:
    The internet would be so much better without these fucking clickbaits and shitposts everywhere.
    Its a shame internet browsers automatically open clickbait posts and force people to read them. 

    Oh wait...they don't.

    B)
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    TheScavenger said:
    The problem I have with cash shops is I have a bad habit of seeing a shiny and wanting to buy it. This is true for GW2 and BDO.
    That right there is the answer to your question.
    KyleranPhryMrMelGibson
  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    Quizzical said:
    TheScavenger said:
    The problem I have with cash shops is I have a bad habit of seeing a shiny and wanting to buy it. This is true for GW2 and BDO.
    That right there is the answer to your question.
    Guess so. And people think they are free. Its like going farther to get cheap gas, but you pay more for that gas you just used to drive to a cheaper gas station than one close by.

    There are people that will drive far farther than they should, just to get cheaper gas. But they are actually paying more for it.

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  • IselinIselin Member LegendaryPosts: 18,719
    Kyleran said:
    some-clueless-guy said:
    The internet would be so much better without these fucking clickbaits and shitposts everywhere.
    Its a shame internet browsers automatically open clickbait posts and force people to read them. 

    Oh wait...they don't.

    B)
    I click on all TheScavanger threads because he once admitted that he uses a discussion topic generator he found on Reddit to create threads.

    I click for science because I want to see how his generator is evolving.
    KyleranAsheramEponyxDamorRich84PhryTuor7MrMelGibsonplanariaYashaXCryomatrix
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  • btdtbtdt Member RarePosts: 523
    Okay, the OP and delete5230 must be the same person... these endless clickbait posts prove it!
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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332
    edited September 2018
    Devs got to witness cheaply made games making the same or better profits than the robust more riskier games,so why aim for the risk when you can make 10 flops and still only need one to succeed.

    A AAA title could be anywhere from 100-300 mil,a cheap flop might cost a mil tops.

    Even someone like Rockstar who has a lot of money would just copy/utilize what they already have going for an engine,so the game would just be a basic GTA type game but have a login screen to utilize a long term cash shop.

    Also we have seen some devs tel us straight up that their publisher and investors want loot boxes/cash shops because they want to maximize their profits.

    So what the chances we run into a NON greedy developer with the know how to build an amazing robust AAA mmorpg....not very likely.IMO Square Enix is the last of it's kind but i see the changes coming,they have released a lot of garbage of late and have been releasing some half assed ,less effort content in their present day games.Blizzard the other giant is to me lol,they could't build a really good mmorpg if they wanted to.
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  • some-clueless-guysome-clueless-guy Member UncommonPosts: 227
    Kyleran said:
    some-clueless-guy said:
    The internet would be so much better without these fucking clickbaits and shitposts everywhere.
    Its a shame internet browsers automatically open clickbait posts and force people to read them. 

    Oh wait...they don't.

    B)
    So you have some sort of advanced technology browser that tells you beforehand that there is nothing related to the title in the body of the post?

    Oh wait...you were being sarcastic.

    :neutral:
  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,507
    Kyleran said:
    some-clueless-guy said:
    The internet would be so much better without these fucking clickbaits and shitposts everywhere.
    Its a shame internet browsers automatically open clickbait posts and force people to read them. 

    Oh wait...they don't.

    B)
    Not yet, but they're working on it.
  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,069
    some-clueless-guy said:
    Kyleran said:
    some-clueless-guy said:
    The internet would be so much better without these fucking clickbaits and shitposts everywhere.
    Its a shame internet browsers automatically open clickbait posts and force people to read them. 

    Oh wait...they don't.

    B)
    So you have some sort of advanced technology browser that tells you beforehand that there is nothing related to the title in the body of the post?

    Oh wait...you were being sarcastic.

    :neutral:
    Cmon, with a title like this thread surely you knew before opening it was clickbait,  right?

    If not..."Have I Got an Offer for You!!"
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  • some-clueless-guysome-clueless-guy Member UncommonPosts: 227
    Kyleran said:
    some-clueless-guy said:
    Kyleran said:
    some-clueless-guy said:
    The internet would be so much better without these fucking clickbaits and shitposts everywhere.
    Its a shame internet browsers automatically open clickbait posts and force people to read them. 

    Oh wait...they don't.

    B)
    So you have some sort of advanced technology browser that tells you beforehand that there is nothing related to the title in the body of the post?

    Oh wait...you were being sarcastic.

    :neutral:
    Cmon, with a title like this thread surely you knew before opening it was clickbait,  right?

    If not..."Have I Got an Offer for You!!"
    I guess I'm too gullible. Ah well, maybe when I will have 10k (tenthousand) more posts under my belt I'll be better at spotting them.
    Cryomatrix
  • RaxeonRaxeon Member UncommonPosts: 2,288
    Theocritus said:
    FFXIV was free when I played it (which wasnt long)...I wouldnt pay $1 a month for that game.
    its a diffreant game now ...
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