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Blizzard Expands on World of Warcraft: Classic Blizzcon Demo Expectations - MMORPG.com

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  • AvanahAvanah Member RarePosts: 1,627
    Don't start them at level 15. That's when Chat is allowed. Unless you are testing Barrens Chat. lol
    Also...give them the full 1-10 leveling experience that took 2.5 to 4 hours back in the days. ;)

    On a more serious side note:
    How will Server overflow be dealt with? I don't want to relive those days from Beta into release where every server was overcrowded and people had to camp Quest spawns just to get a quest done that took hours, frustration and all the curse words from the dictionary.

    You better have at least 20+ PvE servers, 10+ PvP servers just to start!
    And NEVER turn them into progression servers...EVER!!

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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Galadourn said:
    Guys, stop bringing up this argument that "people are gonna be disappointed with Classic because they are in fact nostalgic and that's all"; The game's been around for a few years in private servers and, judging by the appeal Nostalrius had, is still a very good game. 

    you have to take into account how many of the Nostalrius players are willing to subscribe to Classic WoW. Many of them wanted to play for free, just like people who played on the other hundreds of vanilla-like WoW private servers that exist.

    Don't assume every one in Nostalrius wanted official classic WoW and not free WoW.
    I wonder how many are like me.

    Wanting to play Vanilla, but waiting and wanting to play it legit.
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  • laseritlaserit Member LegendaryPosts: 7,591
    Avanah said:
    Don't start them at level 15. That's when Chat is allowed. Unless you are testing Barrens Chat. lol
    Also...give them the full 1-10 leveling experience that took 2.5 to 4 hours back in the days. ;)

    On a more serious side note:
    How will Server overflow be dealt with? I don't want to relive those days from Beta into release where every server was overcrowded and people had to camp Quest spawns just to get a quest done that took hours, frustration and all the curse words from the dictionary.

    You better have at least 20+ PvE servers, 10+ PvP servers just to start!
    And NEVER turn them into progression servers...EVER!!

    1.12 Forever!!
    Progression could be as easy as transferring/traveling to different servers.
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  • AlbatroesAlbatroes Member LegendaryPosts: 7,671
    edited October 2018
    Only time will tell. Everyone needs to remember that at the end of the day, J. Allen Brack is at the helm of this ship. You think you want WoW Classic as close to the original as possible, but Brack thinks you dont.
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  • TheScavengerTheScavenger Member EpicPosts: 3,321
    The biggest complaint players will have from classic is pressing more than 3 buttons and needing multiple hotbars. Anything that isn't 1, 2 and then 3 is too confusing for most players.

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  • bayareamjbayareamj Member UncommonPosts: 31
    I dont care about Classic at all.  I already did that.  
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  • Jamar870Jamar870 Member UncommonPosts: 573
    Remember IT'S A DEMO NOT A FINISHED PRODUCT.
    SBFord
  • DrunkWolfDrunkWolf Member RarePosts: 1,701
    edited October 2018
    I cant wait to see the rage when 1 thousand people are trying to kill the 10 scorpions for a scorpion tail. or when all the undead are trying to do that collect bush quest. the rose colored glasses are going to come off real quick.

    oh and btw, why do they need to " demo " vanilla? the game already did vanilla what is so hard about rolling back a server and releasing it? they are making you people wait and wait so they can charge you what ever they want and milk it for the year or so it last. i have done vanilla private servers, they dont last. they are fun at first then quickly become raid locked and population plumits. except for the chinese of course.
  • CazrielCazriel Member RarePosts: 419
    There are a lot, a lot, of people who play WoW now who never played Vanilla.  They'll get a chance to see it.  May be they'll like it, maybe they won't.

    But all these negative nellies with their "you think you want it but you don't" pronouncements are just tired old farts.  Yeah, nobody thought bicycles would become a thing again, either. 
    Galadourn
  • NanbinoNanbino Member UncommonPosts: 168
    They cater to classic fans... Can we get a f2p version with just cosmetics in cash shop and use villages as marketing tools like inns could offer hearthstone card purchases to your account etc
  • BluelinerBlueliner Member UncommonPosts: 185
    My god there is a lot of nay sayers here. the fact is classic will work, just as the eq progression servers worked, very well I might add. and once again EverQuest did it FIRST. believe that!

  • MrMelGibsonMrMelGibson Member EpicPosts: 3,039
    My biggest question is will they allow us a choice between the "classic" graphics/models and the current updated character models. I know some rather play it like it's 2004. Personally, I'd rather relive it with the new character models. So I hope both camps get their preference.
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  • MensurMensur Member EpicPosts: 1,531

    DrunkWolf said:

    I cant wait to see the rage when 1 thousand people are trying to kill the 10 scorpions for a scorpion tail. or when all the undead are trying to do that collect bush quest. the rose colored glasses are going to come off real quick.



    oh and btw, why do they need to " demo " vanilla? the game already did vanilla what is so hard about rolling back a server and releasing it? they are making you people wait and wait so they can charge you what ever they want and milk it for the year or so it last.

    i have done vanilla private servers, they dont last. they are fun at first then quickly become raid locked and population plumits. except for the chinese of course.



    Have you ever heard of dynamic spawn rate? I guess not.

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  • WizbuizWizbuiz Member UncommonPosts: 215
    They wont release this anytime soon, they know they'll put the nails to the coffin "that is World of Warcraft BoA"
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    I am looking forward to it but I remember it for what it was. People on the whole who never played it though are in for a major shock. 10-20 days played to 60, dungeon runs that would take 3 hours depending on the run (Strat I am looking at you) before they were broken up. Professions that required some effort to get to max like armorsmith. No LFG or LFR. Want to raid....make 40 friends who all have 3-4 hours in a night to clear part of a raid. And lets not forget the mount is at 40 instead of 20 and 100 gold sucked to come by and epic was 1000. Warlocks and Pallys have fun with the epic mount quest that no one will want to help with.

    Me personally am ok with every single one of these things but people who play wow now and never touched BC and before will be in for a culture shock and will run away screaming if we are being realistic with expectations.

    You are predicting failure because of what people have been used to in the past 10 years?  Seems to me, this is exactly what people have been rejecting in this genre. There was a reason WoW was successful. It was a great game. And the old "been there, done that" reasoning doesn't apply as much as it did 5 to 10 years ago since it's been since 2006 since we have seen anything like early WOW.

    If Blizzard does it right, it will be a success. My biggest concern for this project is that Blizzard doesn't know what they are doing with WoW anymore.
  • GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813
    Galadourn said:
    Guys, stop bringing up this argument that "people are gonna be disappointed with Classic because they are in fact nostalgic and that's all"; The game's been around for a few years in private servers and, judging by the appeal Nostalrius had, is still a very good game. 

    you have to take into account how many of the Nostalrius players are willing to subscribe to Classic WoW. Many of them wanted to play for free, just like people who played on the other hundreds of vanilla-like WoW private servers that exist.

    Don't assume every one in Nostalrius wanted official classic WoW and not free WoW.
    Well, at least 280,118 people didn't care for the "free" part and wanted the official game back, even if that meant paying a sub.
    GeezerGamerblamo2000
  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    Galadourn said:
    Galadourn said:
    Guys, stop bringing up this argument that "people are gonna be disappointed with Classic because they are in fact nostalgic and that's all"; The game's been around for a few years in private servers and, judging by the appeal Nostalrius had, is still a very good game. 

    you have to take into account how many of the Nostalrius players are willing to subscribe to Classic WoW. Many of them wanted to play for free, just like people who played on the other hundreds of vanilla-like WoW private servers that exist.

    Don't assume every one in Nostalrius wanted official classic WoW and not free WoW.
    Well, at least 280,118 people didn't care for the "free" part and wanted the official game back, even if that meant paying a sub.
    If they bring back Classic and it truly captures the spirit of the original game, I'll be right there in line with my $15 bucks.
    laseritGaladournblamo2000
  • DrunkWolfDrunkWolf Member RarePosts: 1,701
    Mensur said:

    DrunkWolf said:

    I cant wait to see the rage when 1 thousand people are trying to kill the 10 scorpions for a scorpion tail. or when all the undead are trying to do that collect bush quest. the rose colored glasses are going to come off real quick.



    oh and btw, why do they need to " demo " vanilla? the game already did vanilla what is so hard about rolling back a server and releasing it? they are making you people wait and wait so they can charge you what ever they want and milk it for the year or so it last.

    i have done vanilla private servers, they dont last. they are fun at first then quickly become raid locked and population plumits. except for the chinese of course.



    Have you ever heard of dynamic spawn rate? I guess not.
    So we are adding things that were not in vanilla wow now? but i thought vanilla wow was the best game ever
  • tawesstawess Member EpicPosts: 4,227
    My SO who was a massive WoW fan back in the days (picked up a lot of those "no life" achievements in both classic and BC) is fairly tickled over the classic for a simple nostalgic kick. Me... I did not really play it until WotLK.. Did a short bit in classic and was going to be a back-up tank in a friends play group in BC.. but group fell apart and i went back to SWG and CoH.

    I have no real relationship with WoW classic outside feeling it was less of a game than both CoH and SWG.. then again... I have always been a big fan of character customization and pre transmog that was ALWAYS one of WoWs weakest points.

    This have been a good conversation

  • achesomaachesoma Member RarePosts: 1,768
    I believe classic will become more popular than current version. The original talent trees alone make it worth playing and were far better than the spec locking crap they got now. I miss playing a class not a spec.
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  • GeezerGamerGeezerGamer Member EpicPosts: 8,857
    I am looking forward to it but I remember it for what it was. People on the whole who never played it though are in for a major shock. 10-20 days played to 60, dungeon runs that would take 3 hours depending on the run (Strat I am looking at you) before they were broken up. Professions that required some effort to get to max like armorsmith. No LFG or LFR. Want to raid....make 40 friends who all have 3-4 hours in a night to clear part of a raid. And lets not forget the mount is at 40 instead of 20 and 100 gold sucked to come by and epic was 1000. Warlocks and Pallys have fun with the epic mount quest that no one will want to help with.

    Me personally am ok with every single one of these things but people who play wow now and never touched BC and before will be in for a culture shock and will run away screaming if we are being realistic with expectations.

    You are predicting failure because of what people have been used to in the past 10 years?  Seems to me, this is exactly what people have been rejecting in this genre. There was a reason WoW was successful. It was a great game. And the old "been there, done that" reasoning doesn't apply as much as it did 5 to 10 years ago since it's been since 2006 since we have seen anything like early WOW.

    If Blizzard does it right, it will be a success. My biggest concern for this project is that Blizzard doesn't know what they are doing with WoW anymore.
    Not predicting failure.  Simply that alot of the folks will go away once many of the QoL stuff they have grown used to are not there.  There is definitely an audience for it and it will be populated.  That being said there is the issue with the fact this is not (at this time) a progression server so the content is finite.  I am somewhat certain that if the content never grew then people would not be playing.  I am going to go against what I would normally say and I believe a pvp server will be healthier for a longer period than a pve server in classic.  

    The problem with WOW is it was what people wanted and there is a subset of folks out there who still want that.  Pantheon is another example that there are those who crave the old days.  I am merely stating that many will go back to the live servers due to what they are perfectly happily playing and not doom as it may appear.
    Pantheon is another one. It CAN be good. But the question is if it'a not, why? Would it be because there's no mainstream market for the old grind where you actually had to go somewhere to do something? Or is it that the(se) studio(s) just have no clue what they are doing and released a steamy pile and called it "good"?
    MrMelGibson
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