In that Jimpressions vid when he said 'no your video has not frozen up' I was thinking déjà vu even before that message appeared. My god the number of times Fallout 3 and even more New Vegas has frozen up is painful. If not for the modders the fallout games are a freeze screen after freeze screen in my own painful experience.
In that Jimpressions vid when he said 'no your video has not frozen up' I was thinking déjà vu even before that message appeared. My god the number of times Fallout 3 and even more New Vegas has frozen up is painful. If not for the modders the fallout games are a freeze screen after freeze screen in my own painful experience.
Hmm, cant recall FO3, too many years since I played, but I've never experienced freezing issues in FNV (different company made that one) or FO4, which I have like 1200 hours in now.
Never have loaded a mod for any game since WOW back in 2006, I play all titles straight as the vendor delivered them.
I'll likely load FO76 this weekend so I'll soon be able to see if screen freezing is an issue or not for me.
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Really Ky on Windows 10 it crashes like all the time. Go read the steam forums on New Vegas. Every other post is about the damn crashes.
I actually had more stability with Fallout 3 after I modded it. I was using Windows 7 then though. Could be windows 10 creator's update. I know it fucked up a lot of the mods including the bug fixes. I refuse to play these Fallout games without at least the 4GB tool and the Unofficial bug patches.
I think Bethesda cannot give a decent Fallout game without help from the modding community. The way my game improved after I modded it especially Fallout 3 was like night and day as far as I was concerned.
In that Jimpressions vid when he said 'no your video has not frozen up' I was thinking déjà vu even before that message appeared. My god the number of times Fallout 3 and even more New Vegas has frozen up is painful. If not for the modders the fallout games are a freeze screen after freeze screen in my own painful experience.
Hmm, cant recall FO3, too many years since I played, but I've never experienced freezing issues in FNV (different company made that one) or FO4, which I have like 1200 hours in now.
Never have loaded a mod for any game since WOW back in 2006, I play all titles straight as the vendor delivered them.
I'll likely load FO76 this weekend so I'll soon be able to see if screen freezing is an issue or not for me.
If I recall correctly you played New Vegas a few years after release. At the time of release it was well known to be quite bug ridden. It was developed by Obsidian so Bethesda gets a break.
Really Ky on Windows 10 it crashes like all the time. Go read the steam forums on New Vegas. Every other post is about the damn crashes.
I actually had more stability with Fallout 3 after I modded it. I was using Windows 7 then though. Could be windows 10 creator's update. I know it fucked up a lot of the mods including the bug fixes. I refuse to play these Fallout games without at least the 4GB tool and the Unofficial bug patches.
I think Bethesda cannot give a decent Fallout game without help from the modding community. The way my game improved after I modded it especially Fallout 3 was like night and day as far as I was concerned.
It was the same with Skyrim, the game really only 'got good' when you used mods, one of the main advantages of getting the steam version was that the steam workshop had a metric tonne of mods you could use, far better than the ones you got later in the remastered version. Fallout 76 is so bad though that i don't even know that the modders are going to be interested in 'fixing' the game, what is more likely is that people will continue to drop Fallout 4 mods into Fallout 76, they work, they can probably be considered to be hacks but at this point it might be the only way to actually make the game fun to play.
Really Ky on Windows 10 it crashes like all the time. Go read the steam forums on New Vegas. Every other post is about the damn crashes.
I actually had more stability with Fallout 3 after I modded it. I was using Windows 7 then though. Could be windows 10 creator's update. I know it fucked up a lot of the mods including the bug fixes. I refuse to play these Fallout games without at least the 4GB tool and the Unofficial bug patches.
I think Bethesda cannot give a decent Fallout game without help from the modding community. The way my game improved after I modded it especially Fallout 3 was like night and day as far as I was concerned.
I tried upgrading to Win 10 when they were trying to "give" it away for free but I ran into severe sound driver problems and after crashing several times (something my system almost never does) I rolled back to Win 7.
I dread buying my next new gaming laptop as I'll like have no option other than Win 10.
My wife and daughter both have Win 10 and I hate having to support it when it starts acting up on their laptops.
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Really Ky on Windows 10 it crashes like all the time. Go read the steam forums on New Vegas. Every other post is about the damn crashes.
I actually had more stability with Fallout 3 after I modded it. I was using Windows 7 then though. Could be windows 10 creator's update. I know it fucked up a lot of the mods including the bug fixes. I refuse to play these Fallout games without at least the 4GB tool and the Unofficial bug patches.
I think Bethesda cannot give a decent Fallout game without help from the modding community. The way my game improved after I modded it especially Fallout 3 was like night and day as far as I was concerned.
It was the same with Skyrim, the game really only 'got good' when you used mods, one of the main advantages of getting the steam version was that the steam workshop had a metric tonne of mods you could use, far better than the ones you got later in the remastered version. Fallout 76 is so bad though that i don't even know that the modders are going to be interested in 'fixing' the game, what is more likely is that people will continue to drop Fallout 4 mods into Fallout 76, they work, they can probably be considered to be hacks but at this point it might be the only way to actually make the game fun to play.
I never liked Skyrim but I always wondered if it was because I never tried any of the mods.
I recall getting stuck at some point and being unable to get past a Dragon encounter.
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They didn't increase the stash amount.. hell at this point I'd pay 20 bucks for them to triple my stash size.
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There it is. The line-up for future cash shop "convenience items" has started. There's a reason why it's called "inconvenience by design." Aren't games as a service fun?
Well, they mentioned in beta that they will be increasing the stash amount, I though that meant that it would be done by the time the game launched... it didn't happen. They might let people buy things later, like card packs, or size increases...
But... somehow that doesn't make sense to me. Where card packs are concerned, you can't slot a card unless you have enough points in that special attribute.. so... even if I got 10 card packs right now, I wouldn't be able to use most of them unless I liked the card in the pack better than what I've already chosen.
Stash increases may be in the future, but they already said they'd increase them, at least some, without having to pay for it... but if thats only like.. 50 lbs or something... then yeah, that isn't going to do it for me.
I do wonder what their plan is... are they going to have a cash shop eventually? Or is it just going to be DLC or what?
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade and good for you guys that are enjoying yourselves. I've just had a lot of experience over the past 4 years with how Bethesda's sister company, ZOS, goes about creating inconvenience and pressure points deliberately to monetize and it has made me a bit cynical about their approach to MTs.
Not that it's anything new - F2P games have been doing this for eons and some are outrageous with things like 24 hr delays that you can wallet your way around for instant relief. But B2P games doing it is still recent enough that it annoys the shit out of me whenever I see obvious game deficiencies that don't get fixed at the base level but are monetized instead.
Hope for your sake that I'm wrong and you'll get adequate stash size increases at the base game level. But I just couldn't pass up you saying that you're willing to throw $20 at it for an adequate stash size. That's just what they want to hear
I'm the kind of person who's seen this for a long time, and is okay with paying a bit to get exactly what I want.
That they'll increase the stash without requesting people pay for it through an update is a good sign, but how much is really the question. Obviously it can't be unlimited, there has to be some item management, even MMOs don't usually allow for unlimited space.
Part of most fallout games has been inventory management, they've just done it to a much more annoying degree.
So far that's the only major downside I've experienced... not saying I won't find more... but so far, that's it.
They didn't increase the stash amount.. hell at this point I'd pay 20 bucks for them to triple my stash size.
....
There it is. The line-up for future cash shop "convenience items" has started. There's a reason why it's called "inconvenience by design." Aren't games as a service fun?
Well, they mentioned in beta that they will be increasing the stash amount, I though that meant that it would be done by the time the game launched... it didn't happen. They might let people buy things later, like card packs, or size increases...
But... somehow that doesn't make sense to me. Where card packs are concerned, you can't slot a card unless you have enough points in that special attribute.. so... even if I got 10 card packs right now, I wouldn't be able to use most of them unless I liked the card in the pack better than what I've already chosen.
Stash increases may be in the future, but they already said they'd increase them, at least some, without having to pay for it... but if thats only like.. 50 lbs or something... then yeah, that isn't going to do it for me.
I do wonder what their plan is... are they going to have a cash shop eventually? Or is it just going to be DLC or what?
I'm not trying to rain on anyone's parade and good for you guys that are enjoying yourselves. I've just had a lot of experience over the past 4 years with how Bethesda's sister company, ZOS, goes about creating inconvenience and pressure points deliberately to monetize and it has made me a bit cynical about their approach to MTs.
Not that it's anything new - F2P games have been doing this for eons and some are outrageous with things like 24 hr delays that you can wallet your way around for instant relief. But B2P games doing it is still recent enough that it annoys the shit out of me whenever I see obvious game deficiencies that don't get fixed at the base level but are monetized instead.
Hope for your sake that I'm wrong and you'll get adequate stash size increases at the base game level. But I just couldn't pass up you saying that you're willing to throw $20 at it for an adequate stash size. That's just what they want to hear
Part of most fallout games has been inventory management, they've just done it to a much more annoying degree.
So far that's the only major downside I've experienced... not saying I won't find more... but so far, that's it.
The fun thing of this is that its an intended "feature". This comes way back from 2003.
Oblivion was into development and Bethesda "noticed" (they were aware previously) something that would change everyhting.
Menu/Inventory scrolling was a huge part of their games. Morrowind menu wasnt the best but even beeing easy to navigate would take a couple of minutes of every gameplay hour. Players loved to read items, mix, pratice alchemy, do they micromanagement of the character almost a game inside the game.
When they started the console version of Oblivion they had to adjust the menus for the controllers. Its wasnt easy. It was pretty cumbersome. Even reducing the complexity of the items, their usage, numbers, etc. It was pretty time consuming.
They were aware that Oblivion was a short game. You could spend hours traveliing but if you focused in the quests and main towns it would fell short even compared to Morrowind.
Some clever mind then noticed that the console menus could extend gameplay time more than a 15% without hurting to much the gameplay. Instead of having 1/10 of your time in menus you could make it up to 1/6.
They were coding another menu for PC, similar to Morrowind to what later came as a mod, but they decided that having it be a hassle like on console would be much better. They would extend the short main story and console players (lets remember that this was the first heavy investment to make console the main profit source) wouldnt feel like 2nd class players.
Since then Bethesda has made the menus in his games more cumbersome, less usefull, and very time consuming cause it worked!
Fallout 76 menus, inventory, UI are a result of that genius move.
I have played every FO game to date. I have played probably more hours in FO4 then I care to admit. I love the single player RPG elements of those previous FO games and in particular FO4. That does not mean I do not love FO76. I have played through BETA and launch. I have played it with friends and alone. I love FO76 just about as much as I love any of previous FO's before.
Some say that they are disappointed because the removal of NPC's makes the game feel "lonely". Frankly, I cannot think of a FO game that has not had me thinking that it was a "lonely" game wandering the wastes. In fact, I often lamented to myself that it would be nice to have the option to travel with a friend or more to make it less so. And even though you could have a companion in FO4 wander with you, it was not the same. It was still lonely.
As far as other "complaints" about FO76, I haven't experienced many of them myself. Graphics...maybe could be better but don't detract from the game. Have been disconnected from the game twice in my many hours of play. Pvp, the system works. It is not overly annoying if you wish to avoid it and it works if you really want to participate.
Overall, I agree with the article. I also say if you you really don't want to play FO76, don't. If you are interested in finding the truth, play the game and then make up your mind.
In that Jimpressions vid when he said 'no your video has not frozen up' I was thinking déjà vu even before that message appeared. My god the number of times Fallout 3 and even more New Vegas has frozen up is painful. If not for the modders the fallout games are a freeze screen after freeze screen in my own painful experience.
I also liked his point that we know this about Bethesda games and are usually willing to ignore or downplay it because the game in question is excellent, but when it isn't...
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In that Jimpressions vid when he said 'no your video has not frozen up' I was thinking déjà vu even before that message appeared. My god the number of times Fallout 3 and even more New Vegas has frozen up is painful. If not for the modders the fallout games are a freeze screen after freeze screen in my own painful experience.
I also liked his point that we know this about Bethesda games and are usually willing to ignore or downplay it because the game in question is excellent, but when it isn't...
That is it I have tried like up to 14 hours on modding a playthrough and installing and reinstalling so many times I have lost count and I persevere because once the mods work the game is absolutely amazing. His point is indeed well said and I agree wholeheartedly.
Ugh what shrill nonsense.....I'm enjoying Fallout 76, the game has bugs just like every other Bethesda game ever made, and those will be worked out in time... but really my god Bethesda has a more toxic fanbase than Star Wars. I swear I fully expect one of these rabid nutters to go John Hinckley on a developer one day.
I'm glad there are people enjoying it, but the general consensus seems to be that the game is shit.
The general consensus is Justin Bieber is a talented individual....the general census tends to be retarded.
Well, compared to the average person he is a talented individual.
You might not like his stuff or voice (I don't) but he can sing in a pop style and write pop music. The average person couldn't hope to do that.
You have to take things in the context they are presented. Mr. Bieber is not going to be singing art song or an opera any time soon but have you ever heard opera singers/classical singers sing pop music? It's horrid.
But your point is valid in that people should always make their own decisions. If I let others decide what I should play or like I'd never play a thing.
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For all the words I have heard about this one it sounds like a mediocre survival sandbox that's being sold for full price. If it hadn't been for this being bethesda and fallout people wouldn't really care as much as they do, by people I mean both gamers and the press.
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Holy... I was expecting some deblace but the first official review published just gave FO76 a 3/10 and its a page that gave FO4 an exorbitant 9/10.
edit:my bad metacritc just erased the 3/10 review (from the sixthaxis if you are interested) and published a more appealing (but still very luckluster) 7.6/10 instead.
Ugh what shrill nonsense.....I'm enjoying Fallout 76, the game has bugs just like every other Bethesda game ever made, and those will be worked out in time... but really my god Bethesda has a more toxic fanbase than Star Wars. I swear I fully expect one of these rabid nutters to go John Hinckley on a developer one day.
I'm glad there are people enjoying it, but the general consensus seems to be that the game is shit.
The general consensus is Justin Bieber is a talented individual....the general census tends to be retarded.
Well, compared to the average person he is a talented individual.
You might not like his stuff or voice (I don't) but he can sing in a pop style and write pop music. The average person couldn't hope to do that.
You have to take things in the context they are presented. Mr. Bieber is not going to be singing art song or an opera any time soon but have you ever heard opera singers/classical singers sing pop music? It's horrid.
But your point is valid in that people should always make their own decisions. If I let others decide what I should play or like I'd never play a thing.
I agree. Just because almost everyone else thinks the game is shit doesn't mean that I will think the game is shit ... but when I look at the specific criticisms ... it sounds an awful lot like the game is shit. Maybe I'll just take the mob's word on it this time.
Conceptually, when you think of what the game lacks from FO4, and what it puts in to replace it, it seems like it's far from a net gain. And every scrap of gameplay footage I've watched seems to reinforce that assessment.
I'm seeing valid critiques from reasonable people.
If you think Fallout 76 is a solid game that stays true to the Fallout franchise + what it was sold as, fine. Just own the fact you might have low standards and bad taste in Fallout games. I know I do.
I just happen to think that standalone survival games are weak as f#$%. In my opinion survival is a feature of a game not the foundation of one. Bethesda bet the good name of one of their franchises on a feature. Amazon is betting their game studio credibility on a feature.
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Ugh what shrill nonsense.....I'm enjoying Fallout 76, the game has bugs just like every other Bethesda game ever made, and those will be worked out in time... but really my god Bethesda has a more toxic fanbase than Star Wars. I swear I fully expect one of these rabid nutters to go John Hinckley on a developer one day.
I'm glad there are people enjoying it, but the general consensus seems to be that the game is shit.
The general consensus is Justin Bieber is a talented individual....the general census tends to be retarded.
Well, compared to the average person he is a talented individual.
You might not like his stuff or voice (I don't) but he can sing in a pop style and write pop music. The average person couldn't hope to do that.
You have to take things in the context they are presented. Mr. Bieber is not going to be singing art song or an opera any time soon but have you ever heard opera singers/classical singers sing pop music? It's horrid.
But your point is valid in that people should always make their own decisions. If I let others decide what I should play or like I'd never play a thing.
I agree. Just because almost everyone else thinks the game is shit doesn't mean that I will think the game is shit ... but when I look at the specific criticisms ... it sounds an awful lot like the game is shit. Maybe I'll just take the mob's word on it this time.
I think a lot of it comes down to false expectations. People who played prior games really seem to have been looking for that game converted to an MMO. I never played the Fallout games so I had no pre-conceived notion about how it should play or look. Coming in fresh I would give it a positive rating. Certainly, there are some issues, for me mostly around the CAMP system and the stupid Cardboard Disc but overall I am having fun and apparently so is the rest of my group as everyone is logging in nightly. Maybe it also helps that I have a pre-made group to play with.
Then again you know I am always the glass is half full kind of guy...
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Ugh what shrill nonsense.....I'm enjoying Fallout 76, the game has bugs just like every other Bethesda game ever made, and those will be worked out in time... but really my god Bethesda has a more toxic fanbase than Star Wars. I swear I fully expect one of these rabid nutters to go John Hinckley on a developer one day.
I'm glad there are people enjoying it, but the general consensus seems to be that the game is shit.
The general consensus is Justin Bieber is a talented individual....the general census tends to be retarded.
Well, compared to the average person he is a talented individual.
You might not like his stuff or voice (I don't) but he can sing in a pop style and write pop music. The average person couldn't hope to do that.
You have to take things in the context they are presented. Mr. Bieber is not going to be singing art song or an opera any time soon but have you ever heard opera singers/classical singers sing pop music? It's horrid.
But your point is valid in that people should always make their own decisions. If I let others decide what I should play or like I'd never play a thing.
I agree. Just because almost everyone else thinks the game is shit doesn't mean that I will think the game is shit ... but when I look at the specific criticisms ... it sounds an awful lot like the game is shit. Maybe I'll just take the mob's word on it this time.
I think a lot of it comes down to false expectations. People who played prior games really seem to have been looking for that game converted to an MMO. I never played the Fallout games so I had no pre-conceived notion about how it should play or look. Coming in fresh I would give it a positive rating. Certainly, there are some issues, for me mostly around the CAMP system and the stupid Cardboard Disc but overall I am having fun and apparently so is the rest of my group as everyone is logging in nightly. Maybe it also helps that I have a pre-made group to play with.
Then again you know I am always the glass is half full kind of guy...
Not so much an MMO, but I see many fans disappointed because it drops half the story-telling goodness you get from previous franchise entires.
Previous games had flavor lore in holotapes and other readable documents scattered throughout the world. The breadcrumb thing isn't new or unique within the franchise. Overall, in the narrative and story-telling department, they merely removed, wholesale, the most engaging part of the narrative and story-telling; the denizens, friendly or otherwise, of the wasteland that have themselves coalesced into groups based around shared ideals or just the fight for survival.
Ugh what shrill nonsense.....I'm enjoying Fallout 76, the game has bugs just like every other Bethesda game ever made, and those will be worked out in time... but really my god Bethesda has a more toxic fanbase than Star Wars. I swear I fully expect one of these rabid nutters to go John Hinckley on a developer one day.
I'm glad there are people enjoying it, but the general consensus seems to be that the game is shit.
The general consensus is Justin Bieber is a talented individual....the general census tends to be retarded.
Well, compared to the average person he is a talented individual.
You might not like his stuff or voice (I don't) but he can sing in a pop style and write pop music. The average person couldn't hope to do that.
You have to take things in the context they are presented. Mr. Bieber is not going to be singing art song or an opera any time soon but have you ever heard opera singers/classical singers sing pop music? It's horrid.
But your point is valid in that people should always make their own decisions. If I let others decide what I should play or like I'd never play a thing.
I agree. Just because almost everyone else thinks the game is shit doesn't mean that I will think the game is shit ... but when I look at the specific criticisms ... it sounds an awful lot like the game is shit. Maybe I'll just take the mob's word on it this time.
I think a lot of it comes down to false expectations. People who played prior games really seem to have been looking for that game converted to an MMO. I never played the Fallout games so I had no pre-conceived notion about how it should play or look. Coming in fresh I would give it a positive rating. Certainly, there are some issues, for me mostly around the CAMP system and the stupid Cardboard Disc but overall I am having fun and apparently so is the rest of my group as everyone is logging in nightly. Maybe it also helps that I have a pre-made group to play with.
Then again you know I am always the glass is half full kind of guy...
Not so much an MMO, but I see many fans disappointed because it drops half the story-telling goodness you get from previous franchise entires.
Previous games had flavor lore in holotapes and other readable documents scattered throughout the world. The breadcrumb thing isn't new or unique within the franchise. Overall, in the narrative and story-telling department, they merely removed, wholesale, the most engaging part of the narrative and story-telling; the denizens, friendly or otherwise, of the wasteland that have themselves coalesced into groups based around shared ideals or just the fight for survival.
Exactly my sentiment. The Fallout series has always been, IMO:
-A great RPG with excellent storytelling mechanics -A showcase for great lore, presented by brilliant characters(time to go see the Nuka Cola museum, again) -an immersive living, breathing world -an *okay* shooter
Half those things are gone. And in its place are poorly named avatars that bounce around the screen like a nerf football down a staircase. They might help you, they might attack you, they might ignore you, but whatever they choose, that choice will seem random to you because you have no idea what's motivating them.
And that's fine, in a shooter game. But it's a piss poor replacement for content in an RPG.
Ugh what shrill nonsense.....I'm enjoying Fallout 76, the game has bugs just like every other Bethesda game ever made, and those will be worked out in time... but really my god Bethesda has a more toxic fanbase than Star Wars. I swear I fully expect one of these rabid nutters to go John Hinckley on a developer one day.
I'm glad there are people enjoying it, but the general consensus seems to be that the game is shit.
The general consensus is Justin Bieber is a talented individual....the general census tends to be retarded.
Well, compared to the average person he is a talented individual.
You might not like his stuff or voice (I don't) but he can sing in a pop style and write pop music. The average person couldn't hope to do that.
You have to take things in the context they are presented. Mr. Bieber is not going to be singing art song or an opera any time soon but have you ever heard opera singers/classical singers sing pop music? It's horrid.
But your point is valid in that people should always make their own decisions. If I let others decide what I should play or like I'd never play a thing.
I agree. Just because almost everyone else thinks the game is shit doesn't mean that I will think the game is shit ... but when I look at the specific criticisms ... it sounds an awful lot like the game is shit. Maybe I'll just take the mob's word on it this time.
I think a lot of it comes down to false expectations. People who played prior games really seem to have been looking for that game converted to an MMO. I never played the Fallout games so I had no pre-conceived notion about how it should play or look. Coming in fresh I would give it a positive rating. Certainly, there are some issues, for me mostly around the CAMP system and the stupid Cardboard Disc but overall I am having fun and apparently so is the rest of my group as everyone is logging in nightly. Maybe it also helps that I have a pre-made group to play with.
Then again you know I am always the glass is half full kind of guy...
Not so much an MMO, but I see many fans disappointed because it drops half the story-telling goodness you get from previous franchise entires.
Previous games had flavor lore in holotapes and other readable documents scattered throughout the world. The breadcrumb thing isn't new or unique within the franchise. Overall, in the narrative and story-telling department, they merely removed, wholesale, the most engaging part of the narrative and story-telling; the denizens, friendly or otherwise, of the wasteland that have themselves coalesced into groups based around shared ideals or just the fight for survival.
Exactly my sentiment. The Fallout series has always been, IMO:
-A great RPG with excellent storytelling mechanics -A showcase for great lore, presented by brilliant characters(time to go see the Nuka Cola museum, again) -an immersive living, breathing world -an *okay* shooter
Half those things are gone. And in its place are poorly named avatars that bounce around the screen like a nerf football down a staircase. They might help you, they might attack you, they might ignore you, but whatever they choose, that choice will seem random to you because you have no idea what's motivating them.
And that's fine, in a shooter game. But it's a piss poor replacement for content in an RPG.
Well to be fair , thats how many of us felt once the fallout series was changed from a 'turn based isometric' crpg into an action/rpg hybrid.
However, at least that change seemed to have been done with some care- This is just (*it hurts to say this) a cash grab with a beloved IP.
Whats worse is seeing RDR2 released in the same timeframe and how much care and attention to detail went into that IP. It was akin to a love letter to the fans- 76 was an amalgamation of reused assets on an old engine with a stripped down game in a genre where it doesnt even stand out in its mediocrity.
Its a bit sad tbh and doesnt bode well for bethesda in my eyes and the 'Elder scrolls' series. This was a company that always relieved my pre order and one of which I was willing to excuse rampant bugs and issues because the games were so well crafted. This single game has changed my opinion in its entirety.
I played again a bit today and its not a "bad" game- Its a mediocre game that is surpassed by other survival games made by small indies- Which is sad.
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Never have loaded a mod for any game since WOW back in 2006, I play all titles straight as the vendor delivered them.
I'll likely load FO76 this weekend so I'll soon be able to see if screen freezing is an issue or not for me.
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I actually had more stability with Fallout 3 after I modded it. I was using Windows 7 then though. Could be windows 10 creator's update. I know it fucked up a lot of the mods including the bug fixes. I refuse to play these Fallout games without at least the 4GB tool and the Unofficial bug patches.
I think Bethesda cannot give a decent Fallout game without help from the modding community. The way my game improved after I modded it especially Fallout 3 was like night and day as far as I was concerned.
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I dread buying my next new gaming laptop as I'll like have no option other than Win 10.
My wife and daughter both have Win 10 and I hate having to support it when it starts acting up on their laptops.
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Me too. Never really played any of the Fallout series, but really enjoy this game. Nice change from the sword and board.
I recall getting stuck at some point and being unable to get past a Dragon encounter.
Figured it was just my bad build or something....
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That they'll increase the stash without requesting people pay for it through an update is a good sign, but how much is really the question. Obviously it can't be unlimited, there has to be some item management, even MMOs don't usually allow for unlimited space.
Part of most fallout games has been inventory management, they've just done it to a much more annoying degree.
So far that's the only major downside I've experienced... not saying I won't find more... but so far, that's it.
Some say that they are disappointed because the removal of NPC's makes the game feel "lonely". Frankly, I cannot think of a FO game that has not had me thinking that it was a "lonely" game wandering the wastes. In fact, I often lamented to myself that it would be nice to have the option to travel with a friend or more to make it less so. And even though you could have a companion in FO4 wander with you, it was not the same. It was still lonely.
As far as other "complaints" about FO76, I haven't experienced many of them myself. Graphics...maybe could be better but don't detract from the game. Have been disconnected from the game twice in my many hours of play. Pvp, the system works. It is not overly annoying if you wish to avoid it and it works if you really want to participate.
Overall, I agree with the article. I also say if you you really don't want to play FO76, don't. If you are interested in finding the truth, play the game and then make up your mind.
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Metacritic is at 2.9 that is savage.
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If you think Fallout 76 is a solid game that stays true to the Fallout franchise + what it was sold as, fine. Just own the fact you might have low standards and bad taste in Fallout games. I know I do.
I just happen to think that standalone survival games are weak as f#$%. In my opinion survival is a feature of a game not the foundation of one. Bethesda bet the good name of one of their franchises on a feature. Amazon is betting their game studio credibility on a feature.
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Then again you know I am always the glass is half full kind of guy...
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Previous games had flavor lore in holotapes and other readable documents scattered throughout the world. The breadcrumb thing isn't new or unique within the franchise. Overall, in the narrative and story-telling department, they merely removed, wholesale, the most engaging part of the narrative and story-telling; the denizens, friendly or otherwise, of the wasteland that have themselves coalesced into groups based around shared ideals or just the fight for survival.
-A great RPG with excellent storytelling mechanics
-A showcase for great lore, presented by brilliant characters(time to go see the Nuka Cola museum, again)
-an immersive living, breathing world
-an *okay* shooter
Half those things are gone. And in its place are poorly named avatars that bounce around the screen like a nerf football down a staircase. They might help you, they might attack you, they might ignore you, but whatever they choose, that choice will seem random to you because you have no idea what's motivating them.
And that's fine, in a shooter game. But it's a piss poor replacement for content in an RPG.
However, at least that change seemed to have been done with some care- This is just (*it hurts to say this) a cash grab with a beloved IP.
Whats worse is seeing RDR2 released in the same timeframe and how much care and attention to detail went into that IP. It was akin to a love letter to the fans- 76 was an amalgamation of reused assets on an old engine with a stripped down game in a genre where it doesnt even stand out in its mediocrity.
Its a bit sad tbh and doesnt bode well for bethesda in my eyes and the 'Elder scrolls' series. This was a company that always relieved my pre order and one of which I was willing to excuse rampant bugs and issues because the games were so well crafted. This single game has changed my opinion in its entirety.
I played again a bit today and its not a "bad" game- Its a mediocre game that is surpassed by other survival games made by small indies- Which is sad.