Jedi Under Siege is Underwhelming and Undercooked - MMORPG.com

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Jedi Under Siege is Underwhelming and Undercooked - MMORPG.com

The last few updates were part of BioWare’s attempt to put the genie back in the bottle by knocking the Eternal Alliance down a few pegs. Jedi Under Siege is the first real step towards a full course correction and return to the game’s roots as a story of conflict between the Sith Empire and Galactic Republic. The problem is that, at least so far, it’s about as awkward as I expected it to be.

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Thane

sooo, they once again went full WoW?
promise war, deliver it with pve? yep. whatever.

reason i left WoW (once again), and most likely the reason i won't bother picking up on TOR again ^^

war is nothing that should be sold in pve when you have 2 opposing bloody factions WITH PLAYERS

KalebGrayson

I don't think this is going to happen, but this was, in my opinion, the PERFECT opportunity for faction transfers in game.  Align your dark side Jedi with the Empire for example.  Double Agent story with the Agent.  Bounty Hunter now for the Republic.  Trooper for the Empire.  It's so obvious.  I like this game because it's Star Wars and it has some really cool stuff, but sometimes I sit back and just shake my head at the stuff they miss or mess up (like the Advanced Classes - not being able to swap back and forth).

gervaise1

I suspect most SWTOR players will just be happy that it is still getting new content.

JeroKane

What a surprise.....not.

sumdumguy1

gervaise1 said:

I suspect most SWTOR players will just be happy that it is still getting new content.

This appears to be accurate.  Tons of people coming back, many people liking it and talking about the possibilities.  Remember they said this is more of a attention getter for the expansion that is coming.  This was not the big enchilada as some people seem to think and suggest.  

psychosiz1

sumdumguy1 said:

 Remember they said this is more of a attention getter for the expansion that is coming.  This was not the big enchilada as some people seem to think and suggest.  

This right here.  I play this game fairly regularly and my understanding as well.   Its more of a here's something to do before the expansion is released.

alkarionlog

KalebGrayson said:

I don't think this is going to happen, but this was, in my opinion, the PERFECT opportunity for faction transfers in game.  Align your dark side Jedi with the Empire for example.  Double Agent story with the Agent.  Bounty Hunter now for the Republic.  Trooper for the Empire.  It's so obvious.  I like this game because it's Star Wars and it has some really cool stuff, but sometimes I sit back and just shake my head at the stuff they miss or mess up (like the Advanced Classes - not being able to swap back and forth).

and taht is why this game is still up, because its a star wars, that my friends is the whole problem with this game, any other game would have pulled the plug by now

venatis

I didn't like the Empire side, I thought it was really boring and I spent the majority of my time running through the story going... 'Okay, but am I actually doing here? Why am I needed?'

The Republic side is better. Still not great but there is a clear difference in quality. The way information is delivered is different, characters are more interesting and they actually interact with one another. The reason why we're on Ossus makes more sense. Also sets up the expansion a bit better too. Not sure if they had two different writers for both but the flow is much better.

Malora is an insufferable character. I don't know why they chose to make her like that, she could have been interesting. And Malgus' return was terrible. Very underwhelming for him. His introduction in the Republic side is better but still crap.

The missions are uninspired in both though. Boring things we've done before several times.

3dom

Hopefully, their Anthem will be better than this. After all whole SWTOR was a hot mess from the beginning with their stupid engine choice.

Horusra

Thane said:

sooo, they once again went full WoW?
promise war, deliver it with pve? yep. whatever.

reason i left WoW (once again), and most likely the reason i won't bother picking up on TOR again ^^

war is nothing that should be sold in pve when you have 2 opposing bloody factions WITH PLAYERS

Except the PvP players are outnumbered by the PvE players.

azarhal

venatis said:

Malora is an insufferable character. I don't know why they chose to make her like that

She was insufferable on Korrigan already, I always sell her out to her master she's trying to backstab. Always.

Octagon7711

Hopefully this will be a good setup for the next chapter. It would be interesting if characters could switch sides or become double agents secretly working for the other side. What would also be interesting if your crew were divided by this decision with some leaving and some from the other side coming to work for you. Lots of possibilities here.

parpin

i got a bug with jaesa, i got both light side and dark side jaesa lol, so i have 2 jaesa in my contact list, i romanced both of them so i got to kiss jaesa twice lol, but yeah if small patch like this brings number of bugs, their so called expansion will be super buggy.

Bakgrind

"There was also considerable anxiety over bugs that have plagued the update. There were issues discovered early on after the update’s deployment that required a server shut down and roll back." And this issue is the reason why more fans did not like their episodic content releases that Bioware wanted to implement. Can you imagine the amount of angst that would of generate to the fan base whilst having to endure broken and buggy content on a monthly bases?

Bakgrind

Thane said:

sooo, they once again went full WoW?

promise war, deliver it with pve? yep. whatever.



reason i left WoW (once again), and most likely the reason i won't bother picking up on TOR again ^^



war is nothing that should be sold in pve when you have 2 opposing bloody factions WITH PLAYERS

Speaking for myself I always found that the pvp in WOW to be better than SWTOR in every possible way.

Tiller

3dom said:

Hopefully, their Anthem will be better than this. After all whole SWTOR was a hot mess from the beginning with their stupid engine choice.

Well if you played Warframe you already played Anthem.

Hariken

KalebGrayson said:

I don't think this is going to happen, but this was, in my opinion, the PERFECT opportunity for faction transfers in game.  Align your dark side Jedi with the Empire for example.  Double Agent story with the Agent.  Bounty Hunter now for the Republic.  Trooper for the Empire.  It's so obvious.  I like this game because it's Star Wars and it has some really cool stuff, but sometimes I sit back and just shake my head at the stuff they miss or mess up (like the Advanced Classes - not being able to swap back and forth).

I would love this so much. In star wars people do switch sides. The could have a betrayer style quest that you would have to ge through like in EQ2. This game swtor really could have been great without Bio-ware/EA just stepping on your neck nickle and diming you. If they did add something like this EA would make it a cash shop thing. Whats the point in playing swtor if your not subbed to it. The restrictions are still the worse. The game is dying and they know it.

Kyleran

Wait,  a MMORPG that has always been underwhelming since it launched has released the same in an expansion? 

Go figure.

Kataal

It's strange that the writers of almost every article I've read so far only focuses on the Empire storyline while the comments all say the Republic side is far better. Do all MMO journalists only play Sith or what?

phoenixfire2

Tiller said:

3dom said:

Hopefully, their Anthem will be better than this. After all whole SWTOR was a hot mess from the beginning with their stupid engine choice.

Well if you played Warframe you already played Anthem.

Not even remotely close to the truth, but if it were that wouldn't be too terrible of a thing since Warframe is a solid offering if you're into looter shooters.

Jester135

Just a prelude to something bigger, kinda like shadow of revan before the eternal throne storyline

HJ-Navarre

For the story telling alone, it is still one of my favorite MMOs to date, despite its flaws. I would love to see them port the game off of Hero Engine and expand SWG-style. Not going to happen, though, unless I win Powerball and fund it myself

someforumguy

Needs more features, not just more story. I always burn out fast in SWTOR because there is barely anything to do besides the story. Space is an arcade game, crafting is done by your companions and there is (like in many modern MMORPG's) no point to housing. PVP is mediocre, but then to be fair it most often is in a MMORPG.

I loved certain class stories (agent, BH for example), but after class story you get funneled in this one size fits all story that can be ridiculous depending on the choices you made during class story. Making it feel very disconnected.

God, I miss MMORPG's that came up with more features with expansions, instead of just more of the same.

Valentina

It's basically just a teaser episode for the next expansion, but I honestly really liked it. I love that they made a large open space planet again, and for maybe the first time ever in this game I was impressed visually by what they did with that library/temple place. It felt epic, it was beautiful, and genuinely felt like Star Wars. If it's any sign of what's to come in the expansion, then I am actually looking forward to it.

Tiller

phoenixfire2 said:

Tiller said:

3dom said:

Hopefully, their Anthem will be better than this. After all whole SWTOR was a hot mess from the beginning with their stupid engine choice.

Well if you played Warframe you already played Anthem.

Not even remotely close to the truth, but if it were that wouldn't be too terrible of a thing since Warframe is a solid offering if you're into looter shooters.

I never stated Anthem was terrible, but I happen to be in the position to know that they share a quite few similarities, and if your can't afford to buy Anthem at launch, Warframe would be a suitable replacement.