If it's just a cosmetic item I wouldn't care even if I played the game, it's just some money that changed hands. The money gets spent making games hopefully or taxed eventually so some of it benefits ordinary people, unless it gets wasted by the game company or sent to a tax haven.
I do prefer games without any form of cash shop but someone spending 20$ on pay to win is worse for the gaming industry than a person spending 60k$ on cosmetics imo.
Player auctions are a great alternative way for publishers to maintain price elasticity, as compared to loot boxes. If more developers did this, they would be less reliant on loot boxes.... and with the current political climate, that might be a very good idea.
So um... what's so rare and/or powerful about this mount that someone would bid so high for it to buy it (assuming money laundering or chargeback fraud isn't involved)?
Is it like, a one-per-server mount or something? If that isn't the case, it's hard for me to imagine a group of players (remember, this is an auction, so MULTIPLE people ended up in a bidding war to get it that high) desiring it so much that they'd bid it up that high otherwise, considering that a different player got that mount to sell in the first place within only two weeks of the game.
So um... what's so rare and/or powerful about this mount that someone would bid so high for it to buy it (assuming money laundering or chargeback fraud isn't involved)?
Is it like, a one-per-server mount or something? If that isn't the case, it's hard for me to imagine a group of players (remember, this is an auction, so MULTIPLE people ended up in a bidding war to get it that high) desiring it so much that they'd bid it up that high otherwise, considering that a different player got that mount to sell in the first place within only two weeks of the game.
Described earlier in thread as a rare reward from a regional and seasonal loot box. That was put up on to player auctions. After the guy was already annoyed at not winning previous bids for useful stuff.
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Ive a friend who works as game designer for oone of these mobile rpg pvp games. They have whales who spend 100k each week and make around 1-2million per week. Those guys get 24h support and are the golden porks.
Well, a guy did just pay ~3million dollars for a tuna. Not sure which was the worse purchase. Even If the guy puts the fish in his restarants, its still a 3 million dollar fish.
a man pays $60k for a virtual mount, $3 million dollar for a tuna, but for a model high class prostitute $2k. A prostitute at least gives a full service, but I guess they are worth less than a vr mount. It proves that boobs physics is more expensive than the real boobs.
Well, a guy did just pay ~3million dollars for a tuna. Not sure which was the worse purchase. Even If the guy puts the fish in his restarants, its still a 3 million dollar fish.
a man pays $60k for a virtual mount, $3 million dollar for a tuna, but for a model high class prostitute $2k. A prostitute at least gives a full service, but I guess they are worth less than a vr mount. It proves that boobs physics is more expensive than the real boobs.
Id rather pay for a prostitute, who can cook me a tuna- while I ride my cheap VR mount.. :P
Imagine if Star Citizen was mobile he would have raised a few million selling his jpegs.
But say what you will I suspect people have spent more than that in that dumpster fire (that will never release) for something that may quite possibly never get made into in game assets.
Hey loooook, it's the Star Citizen haters coming out from under a rock. Same old "Dumpster fire", "never release". It's so funny how people can hate a game, in development, soooo bad, that they feel obligated to trash it in every forum. It's like they scavenge the forums looking for a place where they can inject "HURRR STAR CITIZEN BAD, CHRIS ROBERTS BAD, DUMBSTER FIRE, NO RELEASE, STOOPID THEIVES, IDIOT FOLLOWERS HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" .
...It's getting realllll old.
This is such a bullshit copout. Do you have any evidence that a demographic that can afford to toss that kind of money away is doing so on poor people video games?
According to Barron's in 2015 there were 6.8M people/households with $1M - $5M in investible assets. $60K is 6% of $1M. Does it sound reasonable that frugal fiscally responsible people spend money like that? It does not to me. Those with $20M or more number at just over 270K (again in 2015).
How much money does one need to have in order to flush it down the toilet? How much money does one need to have in order to make 60 grand negligible? You know who spends money like that? Poor people who get rich quick and have no idea how to manage money, celebrities, lotto winners, those Peter Principle candidates who are temporarily promoted into a well paying job beyond their ability.
You and Kano are right, that Hellscream feels like that because they don't have massive amounts of money to foolishly blow, but you're implying and leaping to a conclusion, without proof, that there is a rich demographic doing so. If you're going to call them wrong, the burden of proof is on you.
That's not really what was being said is it?
No one was pointing out that demographics of the wealthy and that a certain segment is "fiscally responsible therefore it's not possible."
What was said is that there are wealthy people who have so much money that they just buy what they want. I don't know where this person is in the spectrum of "money" but if he is in that upper 1% (Or whatever) then it's fairly certain it's not a big deal. how many expensive cars did Jay Leno have? Do you think he fretted and budgeted to buy them?
When I get my paycheck I pay all my bills first, put money away second and then the rest is spent how I want to spend it.
I take Uber/taxis whenever I want, I go out to eat all the time I go out to theater, movies performances whenever I want.
Yet I still pay my bills and save. I would consider myself fiscally responsible.
however, there are people who would say "omg, you take taxis whenever you want and eat out all the time!?!?!?! You are a spendthrift!!!!"
I feel I make enough money that I can enjoy life without having to fret over spending a bit here and there.
But that's me and others would never do such things.
So spending is personal and if this guy makes millions upon millions in interest he might not really care about dropping 60k (or 6k if the update is correct?)
I also remember reading an article about a woman who made her money by being an escort. She was at a party and one of the guys decided he wanted to help her so he just went to his desk, took out 10-15k or so and just gave it to her.
Just like that, no biggie that's what he kept on hand at home.
To some they would balk at keeping that amount in a desk and to some that is apparently their weekend spending money.
So let's not go half cocked and assume everyone sees things and does things the same way.
I should add, an uncle of mine, who is "comfortable" once told me that he couldn't possibly understand how anyone could reasonably live off anything less than 75k. Yet people do it all the time. There are people in this country who will never make close to that per year. Of course where one is can be taken into account, but I bet there are people who couldn't imagine living off anything less than 150k, 200k, etc.
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This is such a bullshit copout. Do you have any evidence that a demographic that can afford to toss that kind of money away is doing so on poor people video games?
According to Barron's in 2015 there were 6.8M people/households with $1M - $5M in investible assets. $60K is 6% of $1M. Does it sound reasonable that frugal fiscally responsible people spend money like that? It does not to me. Those with $20M or more number at just over 270K (again in 2015).
How much money does one need to have in order to flush it down the toilet? How much money does one need to have in order to make 60 grand negligible? You know who spends money like that? Poor people who get rich quick and have no idea how to manage money, celebrities, lotto winners, those Peter Principle candidates who are temporarily promoted into a well paying job beyond their ability.
You and Kano are right, that Hellscream feels like that because they don't have massive amounts of money to foolishly blow, but you're implying and leaping to a conclusion, without proof, that there is a rich demographic doing so. If you're going to call them wrong, the burden of proof is on you.
That's not really what was being said is it?
No one was pointing out that demographics of the wealthy and that a certain segment is "fiscally responsible therefore it's not possible."
What was said is that there are wealthy people who have so much money that they just buy what they want. I don't know where this person is in the spectrum of "money" but if he is in that upper 1% (Or whatever) then it's fairly certain it's not a big deal. how many expensive cars did Jay Leno have? Do you think he fretted and budgeted to buy them?
When I get my paycheck I pay all my bills first, put money away second and then the rest is spent how I want to spend it.
I take Uber/taxis whenever I want, I go out to eat all the time I go out to theater, movies performances whenever I want.
Yet I still pay my bills and save. I would consider myself fiscally responsible.
however, there are people who would say "omg, you take taxis whenever you want and eat out all the time!?!?!?! You are a spendthrift!!!!"
I feel I make enough money that I can enjoy life without having to fret over spending a bit here and there.
But that's me and others would never do such things.
So spending is personal and if this guy makes millions upon millions in interest he might not really care about dropping 60k (or 6k if the update is correct?)
I also remember reading an article about a woman who made her money by being an escort. She was at a party and one of the guys decided he wanted to help her so he just went to his desk, took out 10-15k or so and just gave it to her.
Just like that, no biggie that's what he kept on hand at home.
To some they would balk at keeping that amount in a desk and to some that is apparently their weekend spending money.
So let's not go half cocked and assume everyone sees things and does things the same way.
I should add, an uncle of mine, who is "comfortable" once told me that he couldn't possibly understand how anyone could reasonably live off anything less than 75k. Yet people do it all the time. There are people in this country who will never make close to that per year. Of course where one is can be taken into account, but I bet there are people who couldn't imagine living off anything less than 150k, 200k, etc.
You take taxis as in you don't have full-time cheufers on your staff? Pffft, loser!
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This is such a bullshit copout. Do you have any evidence that a demographic that can afford to toss that kind of money away is doing so on poor people video games?
According to Barron's in 2015 there were 6.8M people/households with $1M - $5M in investible assets. $60K is 6% of $1M. Does it sound reasonable that frugal fiscally responsible people spend money like that? It does not to me. Those with $20M or more number at just over 270K (again in 2015).
How much money does one need to have in order to flush it down the toilet? How much money does one need to have in order to make 60 grand negligible? You know who spends money like that? Poor people who get rich quick and have no idea how to manage money, celebrities, lotto winners, those Peter Principle candidates who are temporarily promoted into a well paying job beyond their ability.
You and Kano are right, that Hellscream feels like that because they don't have massive amounts of money to foolishly blow, but you're implying and leaping to a conclusion, without proof, that there is a rich demographic doing so. If you're going to call them wrong, the burden of proof is on you.
When I get my paycheck I pay all my bills first, put money away second and then the rest is spent how I want to spend it.
I take Uber/taxis whenever I want, I go out to eat all the time I go out to theater, movies performances whenever I want.
Yet I still pay my bills and save. I would consider myself fiscally responsible.
however, there are people who would say "omg, you take taxis whenever you want and eat out all the time!?!?!?! You are a spendthrift!!!!"
You take taxis as in you don't have full-time cheufers on your staff? Pffft, loser!
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Entropia Universe is actually different in that you can get money out of the game. People who bought land for 100k at some point, sold it at 600k, and you're not even including the taxes they get each month from it.
To put it in perspective, i spent about $2k in entropia recently and make $10 a month from it. Entropia is 100% different in that you can take currency out.
There are pieces of land in the game that can be sold for $60k. But if it nets you $600 per month, then in 8-9 years you make your money back.
If I had money when the land deeds came out. They were each sold for $100 per each one. They netted you about $1.20 per month.
However, if you bought, let's say $10,000 worth, you'd make $120 per month. If you've made that for 10 years. You would have made about $14,400 from it. Then you can sell all those land deeds for $200 now, so you'd recuperate from your investment about $34,400 in a $10,000 investment.
Then the game would take away about 3% when transitioning from in-game currency to cash. So you'd walk away with about a $22k in profit.
I knew a guy who made $10k a month from the game.
People say project entropia is P2W. It is about as P2W as a casino is. The game is basically a slot machine with an MMORPG wrapped around it.
If a guy walks into a casino wanting to spend $20 vs another one wanting to spend $20,000. Who wins? . . . clearly the house, not either player.
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Is it like, a one-per-server mount or something? If that isn't the case, it's hard for me to imagine a group of players (remember, this is an auction, so MULTIPLE people ended up in a bidding war to get it that high) desiring it so much that they'd bid it up that high otherwise, considering that a different player got that mount to sell in the first place within only two weeks of the game.
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a man pays $60k for a virtual mount, $3 million dollar for a tuna, but for a model high class prostitute $2k. A prostitute at least gives a full service, but I guess they are worth less than a vr mount. It proves that boobs physics is more expensive than the real boobs.
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Hey loooook, it's the Star Citizen haters coming out from under a rock. Same old "Dumpster fire", "never release". It's so funny how people can hate a game, in development, soooo bad, that they feel obligated to trash it in every forum. It's like they scavenge the forums looking for a place where they can inject "HURRR STAR CITIZEN BAD, CHRIS ROBERTS BAD, DUMBSTER FIRE, NO RELEASE, STOOPID THEIVES, IDIOT FOLLOWERS HURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR" . ...It's getting realllll old.
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Entropia Universe is actually different in that you can get money out of the game. People who bought land for 100k at some point, sold it at 600k, and you're not even including the taxes they get each month from it.
To put it in perspective, i spent about $2k in entropia recently and make $10 a month from it. Entropia is 100% different in that you can take currency out.
There are pieces of land in the game that can be sold for $60k. But if it nets you $600 per month, then in 8-9 years you make your money back.
If I had money when the land deeds came out. They were each sold for $100 per each one. They netted you about $1.20 per month.
However, if you bought, let's say $10,000 worth, you'd make $120 per month. If you've made that for 10 years. You would have made about $14,400 from it. Then you can sell all those land deeds for $200 now, so you'd recuperate from your investment about $34,400 in a $10,000 investment.
Then the game would take away about 3% when transitioning from in-game currency to cash. So you'd walk away with about a $22k in profit.
I knew a guy who made $10k a month from the game.
People say project entropia is P2W. It is about as P2W as a casino is. The game is basically a slot machine with an MMORPG wrapped around it.
If a guy walks into a casino wanting to spend $20 vs another one wanting to spend $20,000. Who wins? . . . clearly the house, not either player.
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