...and I provided an example of dev work, yet you didn't answer a simple question whether such showing would satisfy you.
NO @Gdemami IT DOESN'T SATISFY ME BECAUSE I DON'T PLAY MICROSOFT VISUAL STUDIO I PLAY MMORPGS AND WE'RE ON MMORPG.COM AND HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS TO YOU AND WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED TO ASK?
This is another of those moments where I'm sincerely hoping someone's a troll because someone real-life behaving this dense is frightening to me, 100% not joking.
IT DOESN'T SATISFY ME BECAUSE I DON'T PLAY MICROSOFT VISUAL STUDIO I PLAY MMORPGS AND WE'RE ON MMORPG.COM AND HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS TO YOU AND WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED TO ASK?
...it was you who engaged into discussion about Visual Stu..erm, game in early development.
You complain about lack of progress, yet you won't be satisfied even if progress was shown to you - because that is what all early development is about, just endless lines of code with no front-end.
IT DOESN'T SATISFY ME BECAUSE I DON'T PLAY MICROSOFT VISUAL STUDIO I PLAY MMORPGS AND WE'RE ON MMORPG.COM AND HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS TO YOU AND WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED TO ASK?
... - because that is what all early development is about, just endless lines of code with no front-end.
Ignorance is a bliss for folk like you.
No, just no. CU Kickstarter footage shown in April 2013, crude, but they had more to show 6 years ago than COE has today.
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Wait, there's more, check out the visuals in the Ashes of Creation Kickstarter, May 1st 2017.
On day one they had more to show than COE has today.
Wait, COE showed a few videos in the past right? True, but recently Caspian confirmed they no longer could run them anymore likely due to their significant change in direction.
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IT DOESN'T SATISFY ME BECAUSE I DON'T PLAY MICROSOFT VISUAL STUDIO I PLAY MMORPGS AND WE'RE ON MMORPG.COM AND HOW IS THIS NOT OBVIOUS TO YOU AND WHY DO YOU EVEN NEED TO ASK?
...it was you who engaged into discussion about Visual Stu..erm, game in early development.
You complain about lack of progress, yet you won't be satisfied even if progress was shown to you - because that is what all early development is about, just endless lines of code with no front-end.
Ignorance is a bliss for folk like you.
Apart from the fact we saw "front end" in the jousting and Parkour demos that are now obsolete.
So your attempt to be clever just shows that your either:
Apart from the fact we saw "front end" in the jousting and Parkour demos that are now obsolete.
...you said it yourself - obsolete.
It was built just for convention/early show off, same thing Zenimax did with ESO and Hero engine early on - a build that was never itterated upon. Abandoned development branch/effort.
This was about 2.5 years post Kickstarter, close to where COE is in terms of development time, so something along these lines would not be unreasonable to expect.
...which is still way less than an another of your examples showed on "day one" - AoC.
Is there any point besides each development being different and your utter cluelesness?
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Apart from the fact we saw "front end" in the jousting and Parkour demos that are now obsolete.
...you said it yourself - obsolete.
It was built just for convention/early show off, same thing Zenimax did with ESO and Hero engine early on - a build that was never itterated upon. Abandoned development branch/effort.
So much to your attempt to be clever...
Producer Vye:
As mentioned in Kaizen's introduction to our Jousting Quest, nearly the entire team has turned their attention to bringing the work of the last six months into an experience that PAX-goers can appreciate.
And
After much debate internally, we went with this jousting experience because it entails next-to-no throw-away work.
Looks like another smart development choice to save time and money. Like the ElyriaMud which was started and dropped. Like the VoxElyria which was started and dropped. Like building the game on SpatialOS and then dropping it.
I’m pretty sure Zenimax had an exponentially higher budget and team size and I’m 100% sure that budget was not Crowdsourced. Comparing the two companies development paths is laughable.
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I think you ought to stop flopping around and either take the stand they should put their focus on making the game which means we might not see anything on our end for months or they should waste time on making public fluff to give people the illusion of progress when none is being made.
Which do you want?
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Why you guys wasting time arguing with CoE's Edgeboy?
We all know why he posts the things he does.
Because he is actually sepentius (the COE community manager)
Did you ever notice that one of the biggest fans is Rachel Victoria or Victoria Rachel and there is a SbS employee named Victor Rachels? Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm.
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This was about 2.5 years post Kickstarter, close to where COE is in terms of development time, so something along these lines would not be unreasonable to expect.
...which is still way less than an another of your examples showed on "day one" - AoC.
Is there any point besides each development being different and your utter cluelesness?
Not seeing me as being the clueless one here.
You stated " because that is what all early development is about, just endless lines of code with no front-end."
I disagree as most every development effort has a testing front end from the very beginning, which I proved with an example of CU, who developed their own engine, and Ashes which as you noted took advantage of UE4s SDK.
Even in your Zenimax example, they used the Hero engines front end for early development, but one big difference, after they discarded it they were able to quickly show results on their new front end.
We made a bit of sport over the rag doll physics video, but it proved COE has a testing front end which is being used right now.
So who is really displaying willful ignorance here?
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Why you guys wasting time arguing with CoE's Edgeboy?
We all know why he posts the things he does.
Gonna be honest, I am having a hard time pinning down why he posts what he posts about Caspian, but I am leaning towards former lovers in an "It's complicated" relationship.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Why you guys wasting time arguing with CoE's Edgeboy?
We all know why he posts the things he does.
Gonna be honest, I am having a hard time pinning down why he posts what he posts about Caspian, but I am leaning towards former lovers in an "It's complicated" relationship.
The beauty of this quote is that you again prove you cannot follow the conversation. It's why I love public message boards that all can read
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Why you guys wasting time arguing with CoE's Edgeboy?
We all know why he posts the things he does.
Gonna be honest, I am having a hard time pinning down why he posts what he posts about Caspian, but I am leaning towards former lovers in an "It's complicated" relationship.
The beauty of this quote is that you again prove you cannot follow the conversation. It's why I love public message boards that all can read
I have been following they all go like this:
Caspian does something - Slapshot Complains about it and criticizes Caspian.
Caspian doesn't do something - Slapshot Complains about it and criticizes Caspian.
I stand by my halfassed mockery of what is going on between you two.
Egotism is the anesthetic that dullens the pain of stupidity, this is why when I try to beat my head against the stupidity of other people, I only hurt myself.
Why you guys wasting time arguing with CoE's Edgeboy?
We all know why he posts the things he does.
Gonna be honest, I am having a hard time pinning down why he posts what he posts about Caspian, but I am leaning towards former lovers in an "It's complicated" relationship.
The beauty of this quote is that you again prove you cannot follow the conversation. It's why I love public message boards that all can read
I have been following they all go like this:
Caspian does something - Slapshot Complains about it and criticizes Caspian.
Caspian doesn't do something - Slapshot Complains about it and criticizes Caspian.
I stand by my halfassed mockery of what is going on between you two.
I'll let someone else point out why your response to Frenchie makes no sense. As I said, you can't follow a conversation but are just here to try in vain to make every thread about me
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Why you guys wasting time arguing with CoE's Edgeboy?
We all know why he posts the things he does.
Gonna be honest, I am having a hard time pinning down why he posts what he posts about Caspian, but I am leaning towards former lovers in an "It's complicated" relationship.
The beauty of this quote is that you again prove you cannot follow the conversation. It's why I love public message boards that all can read
I have been following they all go like this:
Caspian does something - Slapshot Complains about it and criticizes Caspian.
Caspian doesn't do something - Slapshot Complains about it and criticizes Caspian.
I stand by my halfassed mockery of what is going on between you two.
I'll let someone else point out why your response to Frenchie makes no sense. As I said, you can't follow a conversation but are just here to try in vain to make every thread about me
No one else is a CoE edgeboy like you Slap.. no one else even come close.
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/You complain about lack of progress, yet you won't be satisfied even if progress was shown to you - because that is what all early development is about, just endless lines of code with no front-end.
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On day one they had more to show than COE has today.
Wait, COE showed a few videos in the past right? True, but recently Caspian confirmed they no longer could run them anymore likely due to their significant change in direction.
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https://chroniclesofelyria.gamepedia.com/Development_Timeline
All is well
Much good. Very WoW.
The storm is coming.
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So your attempt to be clever just shows that your either:
1) an idiot
2) a troll
Please enlighten us to which it is
It was built just for convention/early show off, same thing Zenimax did with ESO and Hero engine early on - a build that was never itterated upon. Abandoned development branch/effort.
So much to your attempt to be clever...
Ignorance....
Is there any point besides each development being different and your utter cluelesness?
But why are you guys wasting your time arguing with loltroll?
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I am immune to logic and I hate anyone criticizing companies.
Feels like talking to a wall and I feel you guys are too good for that.
As mentioned in Kaizen's introduction to our Jousting Quest, nearly the entire team has turned their attention to bringing the work of the last six months into an experience that PAX-goers can appreciate.
And
After much debate internally, we went with this jousting experience because it entails next-to-no throw-away work.
Looks like another smart development choice to save time and money. Like the ElyriaMud which was started and dropped. Like the VoxElyria which was started and dropped. Like building the game on SpatialOS and then dropping it.
I’m pretty sure Zenimax had an exponentially higher budget and team size and I’m 100% sure that budget was not Crowdsourced. Comparing the two companies development paths is laughable.
So much good. Very WoW!
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Which do you want?
Not so WoW...
We all know why he posts the things he does.
Things that make you go Hmmmmmmmm.
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You stated " because that is what all early development is about, just endless lines of code with no front-end."
I disagree as most every development effort has a testing front end from the very beginning, which I proved with an example of CU, who developed their own engine, and Ashes which as you noted took advantage of UE4s SDK.
Even in your Zenimax example, they used the Hero engines front end for early development, but one big difference, after they discarded it they were able to quickly show results on their new front end.
We made a bit of sport over the rag doll physics video, but it proved COE has a testing front end which is being used right now.
So who is really displaying willful ignorance here?
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I stand by my halfassed mockery of what is going on between you two.
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