And a lot of lap tops run similar to a desk top, so with those specs you could even connect that to a 4k tv and play on that.
Worth it imo to future proof when you consider the difference in specs and what you need a good lap top like enough ram and cpu,
Also you get something powerful enough it can run things that require less processing than what they are designed for, at much lower temperatures.
Thats important for a lap top as well, and if a person runs average content on a powerful lap top it will last much longer and wont have to worry about the cpu coolant evaporating and having to re add the gel.
also...
software enabled Dolby Vision HDR, which is software to allow for HDR
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As usual, it depends on what you're going to do with it. Why does it need to be a laptop? I realize that you said your girlfriend insists on it, but why? Does she need the battery to last for many hours of use, or is it always going to be plugged into a wall while in use? Does she want to actually play demanding games on it while running on battery power, or does battery life only matter for light loads like web browsing or word processing? How often is she going to move the laptop from one location to another?
Don't mind this guy. He clearly missed "Right now all she play's is FF14/ESO/League of Legends." He asks some .. questions, like you are going to buy a nuclear bomb or something.
Anyway, the Acer Predator is your best bet from the ones you linked, as is pretty good for FF14 , ESO and LoL. However, it seems it has heating problems, which I mostly hate very much on laptops ( some of them at least ).
But, for 1k$ , that's pretty O.K.
There's an enormous difference between someone whose only use for a laptop will be to play games in a hotel room and someone who also wants to do several hours of web browsing on battery power.
From those listed you seem to be looking at 15 inch monitor. Which makes sense since 17 inch models tend to be somewhat bulky. Is 15 inches needed though for on the road use? Its one thing to use a laptop on a desk its quite another to use it on your lap! when even 15 inches is somewhat large.
The 1st and 3rd that you list have M2.NVMe. Clear benefits: lighter, smaller, more power efficient and it will be cooler overall etc. No reason to consider HDDs or even an SSD imo. 512Gb - if needed - can be had for not much more.
An NVMe SSD is still an SSD. If it's connecting via PCI Express, then it can be faster than a SATA SSD, but the performance difference doesn't particularly matter. A lot of M.2 SSDs are just SATA in a different form factor, and that will perform like a SATA SSD because it is a SATA SSD.
An M.2 SSD will be smaller than a 2.5" SSD, which helps in a laptop. It doesn't save heat or power as compared to a SATA SSD. If it's connecting over PCI Express, it will tend to use more power than a SATA SSD.
If an SSD only says that it is M.2 and doesn't specify PCI Express or give performance numbers that exceed what you can do with SATA, then realistically, it's probably a SATA SSD in an M.2 form factor. The higher performing PCI Express SSDs cost more money, and if that's what a laptop has, then they'll tell you.
That's not to say that an M.2 SSD that uses SATA is bad. It's still a real SSD, and by laptop standards, will save a lot of space and a little bit of weight because it doesn't need the 2.5" form factor shell. It won't save on heat or power as compared to a 2.5" SATA SSD, though. The internals of the drive might well be exactly the same, or the PCB inside the SATA SSD might be shaped a little differently.
You're getting a number of replies to the effect that, this $1000 laptop is better than this $700 laptop. And this $1500 laptop is better than this $1000 laptop. And this $3000 laptop is better than this $1500 laptop. And yeah, it is. But it also costs more. A lot depends on what you need and how much you're willing to spend.
And a lot of lap tops run similar to a desk top, so with those specs you could even connect that to a 4k tv and play on that.
Worth it imo to future proof when you consider the difference in specs and what you need a good lap top like enough ram and cpu,
Also you get something powerful enough it can run things that require less processing than what they are designed for, at much lower temperatures.
Thats important for a lap top as well, and if a person runs average content on a powerful lap top it will last much longer and wont have to worry about the cpu coolant evaporating and having to re add the gel.
also...
software enabled Dolby Vision HDR, which is software to allow for HDR
Don't know why people keep saying the RTX 2060 is close to GTX 1080. It's around 1070ti with very few cases clearly above it.
As for the Laptop version of the RTX 2060 be aware those are clocked quite a bit lower than the desktop versions and the Q-Max RTX versions are even a lot lower clocked. So in this case a laptop with a GTX 1080 will run circles around a laptop with a RTX 2060. As the laptop GTX 1080 is still comparable to a desktop GTX 1080.
As mentioned earlier she doesn't want a tablet I've already gone down that route. She wants a laptop where she can basically take it anywhere and able to play her games. She's not looking at 100+ FPS. As long as it runs medium/high I'm sure she'll be fine with that. I'm just trying to make sure the laptop I do buy will do what she wants and won't die in a year or two. She's not after the newest games or anything.. Budget is about $1000 USD. But.. I mean if I can find one for less and maybe throw it some more ram/SSD whatever the sort then I'm all for that as well.
I would have replied sooner but this website hates my phone for some reason.
And a lot of lap tops run similar to a desk top, so with those specs you could even connect that to a 4k tv and play on that.
Worth it imo to future proof when you consider the difference in specs and what you need a good lap top like enough ram and cpu,
Also you get something powerful enough it can run things that require less processing than what they are designed for, at much lower temperatures.
Thats important for a lap top as well, and if a person runs average content on a powerful lap top it will last much longer and wont have to worry about the cpu coolant evaporating and having to re add the gel.
also...
software enabled Dolby Vision HDR, which is software to allow for HDR
That laptop above would be major overkill for what she wants. Even the first laptop he listed would work for her. I think you are confusing games you play for the laptop configuration. The Acer is a bit more than she needs, but will probably be ok for a few years.
Amazon lists an Asus FX504 at $999 and pretty much the same specs as that Acer in the OP but with an added 1TB HDD on top of the 256 NVMe drive. It doesn't mention the specs of the display panel, but the actual Asus website lists the FX504 as a "120hz, 3ms response wide-view panel" which I assume means it's an IPS panel. So you'd be getting 120fps max rather than 144fps max on the Acer, but with the added 1TB of storage.
Amazon lists an Asus FX504 at $999 and pretty much the same specs as that Acer in the OP but with an added 1TB HDD on top of the 256 NVMe drive. It doesn't mention the specs of the display panel, but the actual Asus website lists the FX504 as a "120hz, 3ms response wide-view panel" which I assume means it's an IPS panel. So you'd be getting 120fps max rather than 144fps max on the Acer, but with the added 1TB of storage.
Never just assume that a monitor is IPS, especially in a market where most of them aren't. If it's IPS, they'll tell you. In this case, Asus says that there are three possible panels on the FX504, one of which they say is IPS, and the other two they conspicuously don't:
While the last one on the OP's list is the "best" of the bunch, none of those can be considered a "gaming" laptop.
This is an example of an actual gaming laptop, comes from Sager who makes terrific "notebooks", because quite honestly, the heat from most of these will burn the heck outta your lap. (I keep mine on a plastic/rubber coated cutting board and no longer am interested in having children)
While the last one on the OP's list is the "best" of the bunch, none of those can be considered a "gaming" laptop.
This is an example of an actual gaming laptop, comes from Sager who makes terrific "notebooks", because quite honestly, the heat from most of these will burn the heck outta your lap. (I keep mine on a plastic/rubber coated cutting board and no longer am interested in having children)
I've owned a few Sagers. Awesome laptops. Really good quality and last a long time. I would definitely recommend one if you can fit it in your budget.
Sager is just a rebranded laptop made by someone else, commonly Clevo for their higher end models. There's nothing wrong with that, but you can commonly get exactly the same laptop with different branding elsewhere.
Amazon lists an Asus FX504 at $999 and pretty much the same specs as that Acer in the OP but with an added 1TB HDD on top of the 256 NVMe drive. It doesn't mention the specs of the display panel, but the actual Asus website lists the FX504 as a "120hz, 3ms response wide-view panel" which I assume means it's an IPS panel. So you'd be getting 120fps max rather than 144fps max on the Acer, but with the added 1TB of storage.
Never just assume that a monitor is IPS, especially in a market where most of them aren't. If it's IPS, they'll tell you. In this case, Asus says that there are three possible panels on the FX504, one of which they say is IPS, and the other two they conspicuously don't:
Fair, but the "wide-view" description would be patently false if it were a TN panel. Still, most laptop use is probably going to be head on, so some may prefer the additional storage even if it were a TN display, provided the on-angle color accuracy and contrast are good.
While the last one on the OP's list is the "best" of the bunch, none of those can be considered a "gaming" laptop.
This is an example of an actual gaming laptop, comes from Sager who makes terrific "notebooks", because quite honestly, the heat from most of these will burn the heck outta your lap. (I keep mine on a plastic/rubber coated cutting board and no longer am interested in having children)
I've owned a few Sagers. Awesome laptops. Really good quality and last a long time. I would definitely recommend one if you can fit it in your budget.
Sager is just a rebranded laptop made by someone else, commonly Clevo for their higher end models. There's nothing wrong with that, but you can commonly get exactly the same laptop with different branding elsewhere.
True, but these are made in the USA and whenever I had any issue I could call their office in Cali and get direct service from the tech who built my laptop. Or at least one of the techs that did. I appreciated not only the quality of the laptop, but also the fact that I was supporting a business in my country.
While the last one on the OP's list is the "best" of the bunch, none of those can be considered a "gaming" laptop.
This is an example of an actual gaming laptop, comes from Sager who makes terrific "notebooks", because quite honestly, the heat from most of these will burn the heck outta your lap. (I keep mine on a plastic/rubber coated cutting board and no longer am interested in having children)
I've owned a few Sagers. Awesome laptops. Really good quality and last a long time. I would definitely recommend one if you can fit it in your budget.
Sager is just a rebranded laptop made by someone else, commonly Clevo for their higher end models. There's nothing wrong with that, but you can commonly get exactly the same laptop with different branding elsewhere.
True, but these are made in the USA and whenever I had any issue I could call their office in Cali and get direct service from the tech who built my laptop. Or at least one of the techs that did. I appreciated not only the quality of the laptop, but also the fact that I was supporting a business in my country.
I don't know about Sager's entirely lineup, but the one that Kyleran linked is a rebranded Clevo P750TM1-G, and you can buy it elsewhere here:
That's actually built by Clevo, which is based in Taiwan. It may have been modified a little in the US (the things that you can modify in the site's configurator), but I'd be very surprised if the barebones unit was assembled in the US.
While the last one on the OP's list is the "best" of the bunch, none of those can be considered a "gaming" laptop.
This is an example of an actual gaming laptop, comes from Sager who makes terrific "notebooks", because quite honestly, the heat from most of these will burn the heck outta your lap. (I keep mine on a plastic/rubber coated cutting board and no longer am interested in having children)
I've owned a few Sagers. Awesome laptops. Really good quality and last a long time. I would definitely recommend one if you can fit it in your budget.
Sager is just a rebranded laptop made by someone else, commonly Clevo for their higher end models. There's nothing wrong with that, but you can commonly get exactly the same laptop with different branding elsewhere.
True, but these are made in the USA and whenever I had any issue I could call their office in Cali and get direct service from the tech who built my laptop. Or at least one of the techs that did. I appreciated not only the quality of the laptop, but also the fact that I was supporting a business in my country.
I don't know about Sager's entirely lineup, but the one that Kyleran linked is a rebranded Clevo P750TM1-G, and you can buy it elsewhere here:
That's actually built by Clevo, which is based in Taiwan. It may have been modified a little in the US (the things that you can modify in the site's configurator), but I'd be very surprised if the barebones unit was assembled in the US.
You might be right. They do test the laptops in the US and provide lifetime free technical support. So that's always a plus in my book.
And a lot of lap tops run similar to a desk top, so with those specs you could even connect that to a 4k tv and play on that.
Worth it imo to future proof when you consider the difference in specs and what you need a good lap top like enough ram and cpu,
Also you get something powerful enough it can run things that require less processing than what they are designed for, at much lower temperatures.
Thats important for a lap top as well, and if a person runs average content on a powerful lap top it will last much longer and wont have to worry about the cpu coolant evaporating and having to re add the gel.
also...
software enabled Dolby Vision HDR, which is software to allow for HDR
Don't know why people keep saying the RTX 2060 is close to GTX 1080. It's around 1070ti with very few cases clearly above it.
As for the Laptop version of the RTX 2060 be aware those are clocked quite a bit lower than the desktop versions and the Q-Max RTX versions are even a lot lower clocked. So in this case a laptop with a GTX 1080 will run circles around a laptop with a RTX 2060. As the laptop GTX 1080 is still comparable to a desktop GTX 1080.
And a lot of lap tops run similar to a desk top, so with those specs you could even connect that to a 4k tv and play on that.
Worth it imo to future proof when you consider the difference in specs and what you need a good lap top like enough ram and cpu,
Also you get something powerful enough it can run things that require less processing than what they are designed for, at much lower temperatures.
Thats important for a lap top as well, and if a person runs average content on a powerful lap top it will last much longer and wont have to worry about the cpu coolant evaporating and having to re add the gel.
also...
software enabled Dolby Vision HDR, which is software to allow for HDR
That laptop above would be major overkill for what she wants. Even the first laptop he listed would work for her. I think you are confusing games you play for the laptop configuration. The Acer is a bit more than she needs, but will probably be ok for a few years.
Exactly. It’s overkill for only 500 more dollars.
so that means it a very good lap top and not something needed to upgrade after a few years but something She can even keep for a decade if it lasts that long due to the lap top not over heating and also having nice features to enjoy media with on the new popular 4K TVs.
Also if it’s a back up lap top in a few years, it can be used as a portable media player mostly and still be useful.
The budget constraints of 1000 dollars and not wanting the lap top in a few years was not something I would do personally.
if anything give her a 1000 dollars and let her upgrade to a lap top she wants. And don’t let her be stuck with a ‘gift’ that may be something she would have gotten something nice of that kind of tech as a lap top for herself anyways.
you know like someone is about to start driving and someone buys a eco car for them. Which is nice but they made choice for them and now it’s rude to return that gift if they want to upgrade.
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I do want to comment on the budget thing. He has a grand to spend on the laptop. Not $1500, a grand. This needs to include the things that don't change (video card, CPU, motherboard). Hard drives and memory are easy to change. A $1000 laptop focusing on video and CPU (like the Acer listed in the OP) will work just fine for the needs of the individual.
The Acer in the OP is better than the one I have (a bit faster CPU). Mine is a fine gaming laptop for this generation of games and the next. It is so good, in fact, that my desktop is now hooked to my television in the living room as a blue ray player, and for gaming when I want to lay on the couch. The laptop is hooked to a dock with a 27" 1080p monitor and a 5.1 home theater via an external sound card. The game is on the monitor, and Discord & Google are on the laptop screen, as well as Skype for Business in case my work needs me.
The Acer in the OP will work now as a good solid gaming computer, and can be easily upgraded in the only thing it is lacking later.
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
A $1000 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 4 years could be better than a $1500 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 7 years, because with the cheap laptop you won't have to worry about what to do when its battery is dead and when it breaks down after its warranty is over.
A $1000 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 4 years could be better than a $1500 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 7 years, because with the cheap laptop you won't have to worry about what to do when its battery is dead and when it breaks down after its warranty is over.
It’s a gamble to hope it lasts 10 years, and I plan Things based on certain expectations.
if I treat the pc/lap top properly it will last me beyond the warranty.
this includes basics like browsing the internet properly to not get a virus, to software and hardware maintenance upkeep.
so if you are buying it for a child, then yes, have the expectations adjusted.
but for me a pc/lap top and a smart phone are an amazing piece of technology and I do my research to treat them properly.
i don’t disagree with you, like I said, I plan things based on my expectations.
and why not indulge a bit to enjoy?
its only 500 more for basically top end performance.
people are saving money, but may be they don’t even get a chance to spend it on the things they really wanted.
it becomes a bit more complicated to get into the philosophy of life and spending to enjoy the now rather than save for retirement.
and a justification for that would be how much a person uses something. For example if a person drinks star bucks everyday that’s like $15 bucks for a few drinks. That’s $5000 for a few minutes of enjoyment per year.
but for a pc /lap top you are using it for many hours a day. So the value per minute is cheaper.
also my response to even the above poster, about the Acer, and the same point I was saying for getting a higher end was not over heating
A $1000 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 4 years could be better than a $1500 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 7 years, because with the cheap laptop you won't have to worry about what to do when its battery is dead and when it breaks down after its warranty is over.
It’s a gamble to hope it lasts 10 years, and I plan Things based on certain expectations.
if I treat the pc/lap top properly it will last me beyond the warranty.
this includes basics like browsing the internet properly to not get a virus, to software and hardware maintenance upkeep.
so if you are buying it for a child, then yes, have the expectations adjusted.
but for me a pc/lap top and a smart phone are an amazing piece of technology and I do my research to treat them properly.
i don’t disagree with you, like I said, I plan things based on my expectations.
and why not indulge a bit to enjoy?
its only 500 more for basically top end performance.
people are saving money, but may be they don’t even get a chance to spend it on the things they really wanted.
it becomes a bit more complicated to get into the philosophy of life and spending to enjoy the now rather than save for retirement.
and a justification for that would be how much a person uses something. For example if a person drinks star bucks everyday that’s like $15 bucks for a few drinks. That’s $5000 for a few minutes of enjoyment per year.
but for a pc /lap top you are using it for many hours a day. So the value per minute is cheaper.
also my response to even the above poster, about the Acer, and the same point I was saying for getting a higher end was not over heating
The acer like other gaming lap tops have over heating problems.
and over heating will make a lap top last only a few years compared to a decade.
also there are tricks like playing on a lower resolution but with other settings set to high so the game looks good but runs on lower temperatures.
anywyays, I recommend what I did. You can disagree , but I explained how it makes sense to me as well that’s why I do recommend that.
All the care in the world is not going to help you if one of the components just breaks down. If you use the device a lot and expect it to last 10 years without anything failing then you're basing more expectations on your luck than on how you care about it.
If you use it only occasionally then it's different and there's a good chance it'll last a decade.
And a lot of lap tops run similar to a desk top, so with those specs you could even connect that to a 4k tv and play on that.
Worth it imo to future proof when you consider the difference in specs and what you need a good lap top like enough ram and cpu,
Also you get something powerful enough it can run things that require less processing than what they are designed for, at much lower temperatures.
Thats important for a lap top as well, and if a person runs average content on a powerful lap top it will last much longer and wont have to worry about the cpu coolant evaporating and having to re add the gel.
also...
software enabled Dolby Vision HDR, which is software to allow for HDR
That laptop above would be major overkill for what she wants. Even the first laptop he listed would work for her. I think you are confusing games you play for the laptop configuration. The Acer is a bit more than she needs, but will probably be ok for a few years.
Exactly. It’s overkill for only 500 more dollars.
so that means it a very good lap top and not something needed to upgrade after a few years but something She can even keep for a decade if it lasts that long due to the lap top not over heating and also having nice features to enjoy media with on the new popular 4K TVs.
Also if it’s a back up lap top in a few years, it can be used as a portable media player mostly and still be useful.
The budget constraints of 1000 dollars and not wanting the lap top in a few years was not something I would do personally.
if anything give her a 1000 dollars and let her upgrade to a lap top she wants. And don’t let her be stuck with a ‘gift’ that may be something she would have gotten something nice of that kind of tech as a lap top for herself anyways.
you know like someone is about to start driving and someone buys a eco car for them. Which is nice but they made choice for them and now it’s rude to return that gift if they want to upgrade.
Actually, for her needs a %500 laptop would be appropriate. The games she plays would play fine on most of them. Just because you can spend more money does not mean you should. Your laptop will last for a long time, but considering how fast the tech in them changes, is it a good call to buy one for long term?
I have had laptops last beyond the warranty before.
Apple is far and away the best for longevity. I still have one that's 18 years old and runs and looks great. The average age of an Apple laptop around where I work is 4 years. We have several that are getting up around 10 years. I guess when you make your laptop out of a solid chunk of metal it pays off, so long as you never want to upgrade anything in it.
That being said... "gaming laptop" is generally not Apple. And you aren't going to find many models in your budget.
I have a few Dells that beat the warranty. I have two that have beat 12 years... but they are definitely on their last legs. Very few age well to 5 years, and once the warranty is up at 3 years they are ready to be retired. Just a lot of plastic and stuff that doesn't age very well.
Other brands I've had mixed reviews and can't testify.
With a gaming laptop though - first off, expect it to age twice as fast as a normal laptop, just because it's going to heat up a lot more and run a lot harder. Second off, don't expect to keep it for 10 years, because your going to want to upgrade ~something~ for newer games well before then. A couple of years is reasonable, 3-4 years is probably stretching it, and 5 years I'd say your crazy unless you spent a crazy amount of money on it up front or your idea of gaming is Solitaire or Farmville.
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Gaming laptops are fundamentally a proposition of cramming too much heat into too little space. Laptops also have a much greater likelihood of being dropped, shaken, or otherwise physically abused. You can try to be careful and you can try to clear out dust, but ultimately, a gaming laptop is going to tend not to last nearly as long as a gaming desktop that gets about the same level of use. I'm not saying that you shouldn't get the laptop. I'm only saying that you shouldn't assume that it will last you 6 or 8 years before breaking irreparably.
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https://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Tracer-III-17R-Xtreme-VR-700
thats for $1600, but you get a better cpu that wont bottle neck, much better vid card, and a larger screen.
https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/legion-laptops/legion-y-series/Lenovo-Legion-Y740-17ICHg/p/88GMY701062
$1,563.99
And a lot of lap tops run similar to a desk top, so with those specs you could even connect that to a 4k tv and play on that.
Worth it imo to future proof when you consider the difference in specs and what you need a good lap top like enough ram and cpu,
Also you get something powerful enough it can run things that require less processing than what they are designed for, at much lower temperatures.
Thats important for a lap top as well, and if a person runs average content on a powerful lap top it will last much longer and wont have to worry about the cpu coolant evaporating and having to re add the gel.
also...
software enabled Dolby Vision HDR, which is software to allow for HDR
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An M.2 SSD will be smaller than a 2.5" SSD, which helps in a laptop. It doesn't save heat or power as compared to a SATA SSD. If it's connecting over PCI Express, it will tend to use more power than a SATA SSD.
If an SSD only says that it is M.2 and doesn't specify PCI Express or give performance numbers that exceed what you can do with SATA, then realistically, it's probably a SATA SSD in an M.2 form factor. The higher performing PCI Express SSDs cost more money, and if that's what a laptop has, then they'll tell you.
That's not to say that an M.2 SSD that uses SATA is bad. It's still a real SSD, and by laptop standards, will save a lot of space and a little bit of weight because it doesn't need the 2.5" form factor shell. It won't save on heat or power as compared to a 2.5" SATA SSD, though. The internals of the drive might well be exactly the same, or the PCB inside the SATA SSD might be shaped a little differently.
As for the Laptop version of the RTX 2060 be aware those are clocked quite a bit lower than the desktop versions and the Q-Max RTX versions are even a lot lower clocked. So in this case a laptop with a GTX 1080 will run circles around a laptop with a RTX 2060. As the laptop GTX 1080 is still comparable to a desktop GTX 1080.
I would have replied sooner but this website hates my phone for some reason.
https://www.asus.com/us/Laptops/ASUS-TUF-Gaming-FX504/specifications/
https://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np9176-clevo-p775tm1-g-12409.html
That's actually built by Clevo, which is based in Taiwan. It may have been modified a little in the US (the things that you can modify in the site's configurator), but I'd be very surprised if the barebones unit was assembled in the US.
https://www.sagernotebook.com/About-Sager.html
Not disagreeing about specs but there is more to a graphics cards raw horse power considering with new support aoftware and new tech.
and just comparing the numbers of the two cards they perform similarly in FPS measurement. Which is also a fair measurement in performance.
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so that means it a very good lap top and not something needed to upgrade after a few years but something She can even keep for a decade if it lasts that long due to the lap top not over heating and also having nice features to enjoy media with on the new popular 4K TVs.
Also if it’s a back up lap top in a few years, it can be used as a portable media player mostly and still be useful.
The budget constraints of 1000 dollars and not wanting the lap top in a few years was not something I would do personally.
if anything give her a 1000 dollars and let her upgrade to a lap top she wants. And don’t let her be stuck with a ‘gift’ that may be something she would have gotten something nice of that kind of tech as a lap top for herself anyways.
you know like someone is about to start driving and someone buys a eco car for them. Which is nice but they made choice for them and now it’s rude to return that gift if they want to upgrade.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
The Acer in the OP is better than the one I have (a bit faster CPU). Mine is a fine gaming laptop for this generation of games and the next. It is so good, in fact, that my desktop is now hooked to my television in the living room as a blue ray player, and for gaming when I want to lay on the couch. The laptop is hooked to a dock with a 27" 1080p monitor and a 5.1 home theater via an external sound card. The game is on the monitor, and Discord & Google are on the laptop screen, as well as Skype for Business in case my work needs me.
The Acer in the OP will work now as a good solid gaming computer, and can be easily upgraded in the only thing it is lacking later.
The world is going to the dogs, which is just how I planned it!
A $1000 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 4 years could be better than a $1500 laptop that you expect to be fast enough for 7 years, because with the cheap laptop you won't have to worry about what to do when its battery is dead and when it breaks down after its warranty is over.
if I treat the pc/lap top properly it will last me beyond the warranty.
this includes basics like browsing the internet properly to not get a virus, to software and hardware maintenance upkeep.
so if you are buying it for a child, then yes, have the expectations adjusted.
but for me a pc/lap top and a smart phone are an amazing piece of technology and I do my research to treat them properly.
i don’t disagree with you, like I said, I plan things based on my expectations.
and why not indulge a bit to enjoy?
its only 500 more for basically top end performance.
people are saving money, but may be they don’t even get a chance to spend it on the things they really wanted.
it becomes a bit more complicated to get into the philosophy of life and spending to enjoy the now rather than save for retirement.
and a justification for that would be how much a person uses something. For example if a person drinks star bucks everyday that’s like $15 bucks for a few drinks. That’s $5000 for a few minutes of enjoyment per year.
but for a pc /lap top you are using it for many hours a day. So the value per minute is cheaper.
also my response to even the above poster, about the Acer, and the same point I was saying for getting a higher end was not over heating
https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions/Tx2IIZYYIBLWZBE/?
The acer like other gaming lap tops have over heating problems.
and over heating will make a lap top last only a few years compared to a decade.
also there are tricks like playing on a lower resolution but with other settings set to high so the game looks good but runs on lower temperatures.
anywyays, I recommend what I did. You can disagree , but I explained how it makes sense to me as well that’s why I do recommend that.
Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble
If you use it only occasionally then it's different and there's a good chance it'll last a decade.
Apple is far and away the best for longevity. I still have one that's 18 years old and runs and looks great. The average age of an Apple laptop around where I work is 4 years. We have several that are getting up around 10 years. I guess when you make your laptop out of a solid chunk of metal it pays off, so long as you never want to upgrade anything in it.
That being said... "gaming laptop" is generally not Apple. And you aren't going to find many models in your budget.
I have a few Dells that beat the warranty. I have two that have beat 12 years... but they are definitely on their last legs. Very few age well to 5 years, and once the warranty is up at 3 years they are ready to be retired. Just a lot of plastic and stuff that doesn't age very well.
Other brands I've had mixed reviews and can't testify.
With a gaming laptop though - first off, expect it to age twice as fast as a normal laptop, just because it's going to heat up a lot more and run a lot harder. Second off, don't expect to keep it for 10 years, because your going to want to upgrade ~something~ for newer games well before then. A couple of years is reasonable, 3-4 years is probably stretching it, and 5 years I'd say your crazy unless you spent a crazy amount of money on it up front or your idea of gaming is Solitaire or Farmville.
Patience
Timing
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