Matt Firor confirms that Zenimax is working on their next game - MMORPG.com

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Matt Firor confirms that Zenimax is working on their next game - MMORPG.com

In an interview with the Official Xbox Magazine, Zenimx Online's Matt Firor has confirmed that the studio is working on a new project, but doesn't divulge much more info than that.

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Galadourn

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that theme park we have now?

Kitsunami

Probably because the majority of the elder scrolls players want a CO op experience not a online one.

Tiller

" but we’re committed to ESO for as long as it takes."

As long as what takes?

bcbully

AWESOME

BillMurphy

Tiller said:

" but we’re committed to ESO for as long as it takes."



As long as what takes?

Seems like he means "as long as it's something people keep playing and paying for". Like, you wouldn't put a date on it. "We're committed to ESO for the next 3 years. Because then we think we're done."

Maurgrim

Galadourn said:

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that thematic park we have now?

Elder Scroll games have never been sandbox.

Sovrath

Maurgrim said:

Galadourn said:

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that thematic park we have now?

Elder Scroll games have never been sandbox.

All this does is go back to the "what is a sandbox" argument which has been raging ever "since."

There is a palpable difference between games like Daggerfall, Morrowind, Oblvion and Skyrim and Elder Scrolls Online.

3dom

Yet another game with bad graphics, clunky animations, monetized to the teeth? Sure, why not, I just need the title to ignore news about it.

supx2

Maurgrim said:

Galadourn said:

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that thematic park we have now?

Elder Scroll games have never been sandbox.

well I only played Oblivion and skyrim, but there you go 2 elder of scrolls games that enter in the sandbox category.

BlueThunderBear

How about you quit screwing over ESO players first?

Wizardry

Like so many studios,cheap ideas get circled around the office.

Anthem was a cheaply designed game,Fallout was extremely cheap,i want to see developers that put in some passionate work to bring us AAA games.
The perfect example of failure by goign for cheap cash grabs was Trion.They gave us a hint of better ideas to come after Rift being a decent starting game.Then after what followed was abysmal,all of their games after combined are not worth a grain of salt and why the studio ends up being sold off.

I would not suggest that Bethesda digs down so deep they are delivering really bad games but they are also not delivering AAA games.Every single game seems to have a cutoff point,ok this is all we can do for a budget so let's cut the game short.

When i look back after 20 + years,i seriously don't feel like Bethesda/Zeni were ever really that good.Adding Carmack seems to be an odd fit,he is more of a shooter type designer while Bethesda has been more of a rpg type developer.But i have never got the indication of a MMO developer they just don't have the mindset to pull it off.
So what is coming,don't matter to me,i'll just wait and see if they can deliver and if this is to be considered a decent project,we shouldn't hear anything much for another 3+ years.

Amathe

I feel like Gollum, when Bilbo asks what's in my pocket? We're just left to guess? Not a single clue. Phooey.

alkarionlog

weee I know I used that phrase before but I will say it again

can't wait for the next train wreck

druez

supx2 said:

Maurgrim said:

Galadourn said:

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that thematic park we have now?

Elder Scroll games have never been sandbox.

well I only played Oblivion and skyrim, but there you go 2 elder of scrolls games that enter in the sandbox category.

I think the word your are looking for is Open World RPG, not a sandbox. Sandbox allows you to build houses, towns villages etc... Generally the world itself can be changed by what you do. Skyrim is more of an Open World. You aren't on rails in the game, the world is open to explore and live in, but you really can't make meaningful changes to the world itself, minus the few scripted events.

k61977

supx2 said:

Maurgrim said:

Galadourn said:

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that thematic park we have now?

Elder Scroll games have never been sandbox.

well I only played Oblivion and skyrim, but there you go 2 elder of scrolls games that enter in the sandbox category.

A lot of people don't consider quest based games to be sandbox games. Sure you can play the game without doing a single quest. At its heart Elder Scrolls are RPG with questlines and stories already written. In a true sandbox you write your own story, build a house, do whatever you truly wish. I agree that Elder Scrolls games have been the closest to sandbox while still being themepark questline games though.

Greatsword

I bet it will have beautiful animations

Arglebargle

The new engine part sounds interesting at least.   

I'd much prefer a co-op game;  but with ESO the company showed a distinct propensity to design for a supposed ideal that, in actuality, didn't resonate with the lion's share of Elder Scrolls fans.  Thus all the gerrymandering post release.

Sovrath

k61977 said:

A lot of people don't consider quest based games to be sandbox games. Sure you can play the game without doing a single quest. At its heart Elder Scrolls are RPG with questlines and stories already written. In a true sandbox you write your own story, build a house, do whatever you truly wish. I agree that Elder Scrolls games have been the closest to sandbox while still being themepark questline games though.

But it still comes back to what is a sandbox and what is a themepark. 

When I first started the Elder Scrolls games, not really being "a gamer" I considered them Sandbox games as I could "write my own story."

I don't agree with the building assessment at all.

I know a good friend of mine usually plays them without doing many quests (some, but not many.) But he "writes his own story."

I think the ability to ignore or embrace the content offered is the largest component for a sandbox role playing game. 

otherwise, are there any sandbox role playing games?

Serious question. Because I don't know of any role playing games that offer full on building with stories/quests and role playing elements. Single player that is.

And of course, if one thinks of it, there is, technically building with the Hearthstone expansion in Skyrim or the House building (such as it is) in Morrowind. 

I very much agree with this (as one point of view):

"In spite of their name, various sandbox games continue to impose restrictions at some stages of the game environment. "


https://www.techopedia.com/definition/3952/sandbox-gaming

And while the article offers "change a virtual world at will" there are other ways to change a virtual world than building.

Changing a leader can be one thing. Changing who sits in Whiterun or Winterhold for example, doing that glimmergreen tree (or whatever it's called) quest and depending on what you do you either get a new tree or heal the current one.

And as the article points out, there will eventually be restrictions.

Scorchien

Kitsunami said:

Probably because the majority of the elder scrolls players want a CO op experience not a online one.

   Well Matt Fior feels that is what he delivered and does not consider ESO an MMO but an extension of Elder Scrolls....So in his eye , thats what you got ..

 Maybe now his vision is set on what he sees as a true MMO for Elder Scrolls

 Or maybe a remake of Daggerfall , which would be excellent

bcbully

Deyirn said:

If it's gonna be another dumb casual fest like ESO, I'm not interested. WoW Classic for me, thank you very much.

Want hardcore, pvp. 

Scot

Either ESO Blades will get ported to the PC, that's a mobile game being the foundation of a PC game. I remember when I said this people said "It could never happen". Or a co-op game in the style of Vermintide.

Briatauron

G.O.T

Limnic

druez said:

supx2 said:

Maurgrim said:

Galadourn said:

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that thematic park we have now?

Elder Scroll games have never been sandbox.

well I only played Oblivion and skyrim, but there you go 2 elder of scrolls games that enter in the sandbox category.

I think the word your are looking for is Open World RPG, not a sandbox. Sandbox allows you to build houses, towns villages etc... Generally the world itself can be changed by what you do. Skyrim is more of an Open World. You aren't on rails in the game, the world is open to explore and live in, but you really can't make meaningful changes to the world itself, minus the few scripted events.

I did those things in Skyrim though.

mmolou

Galadourn said:

Good, I have a suggestion: how about you make a real Elder Scrolls MMO, you know, sandbox game instead of that thematic park we have now?

Define "real" Elder Scrolls MMO.

Truvidien88

I wonder if this one won't have animation cancelling.